October 7, 2015 - Ben Carson's Gun Policy & The Right to Die

  • 10/07/2015

California enacts a landmark death-with-dignity law, and Jay Leno, Bobby Gaylor and Michelle Collins discuss Ben Carson's surprising reaction to a mass shooting.

>> Larry: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SUCH A KIND AUDIENCE.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.IT WAS LIKE "LARRY--"

WELCOME TO THENIGHTLY SHOW.

MAN, OUR SHOW TONIGHT, LET METELL YOU SOMETHING. OUR SHOW

TONIGHT IS COMPLETELY ON FLEEK.IT IS. I MEAN IT. YOU GUYS KNOW

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

JAY LENO JOINS US ON THE PANELTONIGHT.

I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM.

A LOT OF FUN.

BUT FIRST, HEY, GUYS, IT'SOCTOBER BEFORE AN ELECTION YEAR,

SO THAT MEANS IT'S IRRESPONSIBLEIDEA SEASON.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHEN ALL THECRAZY (BLEEP) COMES OUT.

SO LET'S GET RIGHT TO IT, ANDSEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE

UNBLACKENING.

>> Larry: OH, WAIT, WAIT.

I AM SORRY.

I FORGOT THIS IS A BEN CARSONUPDATE, SO IT'S NOT QUITE THE

UNBLACKENING.

I KNOW.

I SHOULD HAVE REALIZED THATEARLIER.

MY BAD, YOU GUYS.

RUN THE OTHER ONE, YOU GUYS.

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>> Larry: I'LL TELL YOUSOMETHING.

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.

I AGREE, WHITE PEOPLE.

THAT IS SCARY.

WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN REASONS.

NOT THAT CARSON HAS MUCH CHANCETO MAKE OUR COUNTRY GO

BLACK-TO-BLACK, BECAUSE HE'SFALLING INTO THAT CLASSIC TRAP

THAT HAS DEFEATED SO MANYPROMISING BUT ULTIMATELY INSANE

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES:

HE OPENED HIS MOUTH AND TOLDPEOPLE WHAT HE REALLY THINKS.

HERE IS WHAT CARSON HAD TO SAYABOUT THAT TRAGIC SHOOTING IN

OREGON.

>> I WOULD NOT JUST STAND THEREAND LET HIM SHOOT ME.

I WOULD SAY, "HEY, GUYS,EVERYBODY ATTACK HIM.

HE MAY SHOOT ME, BUT HE CAN'TGET US ALL."

>> Larry: YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR(BLEEP)ING MIND.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

"HEY, GUYS, HE CAN'T SHOOT USALL."

THE SAD THING, IS HE PROBABLYCAN SHOOT YOU ALL THANKS TO YOUR

PARTY'S POSITION ON NOT WANTINGTO LIMIT HIGH-CAPACITY

MAGAZINES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FINE.

BUT LOOK, MAYBE IT WAS EARLY.

HE WAS AMONGST HIS FOX ANDFRIENDS.

MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE WASCAUGHT OFF GUARD.

LET'S GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE.

>> I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TOATTACK THE GUNMAN BECAUSE HE CAN

ONLY SHOOT ONE OF US AT A TIME.

THAT WAY WE DON'T ALL END UPDEAD.

>> YOU'RE LAUGHING? WHAT THE(BLEEP), BEN CARSON?

THAT IS CHILLING.

AND THIS GUY IS A DOCTOR.

I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE HISBEDSIDE MANNER.

"WELL, THE CANCER'S SPREAD, BUTWE WERE ABLE TO SAVE ONE OF HIS

LIMBS.

HA, HA, HA."

"GOOD NEWS,

WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE TEN PERCENTOF YOUR SON'S FACE.

HA, HA, HA."

OH.

ALSO, JUST SHOW ME THAT LASTPICTURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DO YOU SEE THAT TRUCK RIGHTTHERE? "CALL AHEAD."

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS?THIS IS TRUE.

THAT IS A TOILET RENTAL COMPANYAND IRONICALLY THE THING THAT IS

THE MOST FULL OF (BLEEP) IN THATPICTURE IS NOT THAT TRUCK.

IT IS IRONIC.

I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE IRONY.

ISN'T THAT STRANGE?

>> AND HERE'S THE THING, DOC,SOMEONE DID THE THING YOU ARE

SAYING THEY SHOULD DO.

HIS NAME IS CHRIS MINTZ. HE'S ANARMY VETERAN, AND WE ARE ALL

HOPING AND PRAYING FOR HIMBECAUSE HE WAS SHOT SEVEN TIMES.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUTTHAT?

>> DO YOU KNOW WHO CHRIS MINTZIS?

>> NO.

>> NORA, YOU TELL HIM.

I CAN'T.

>> CHRIS MINTZ IS AN ARMYVETERAN, AND HE WAS SHOT SEVEN

TIMES.

HE DID ACTUALLY RUSH THESHOOTER.

SO SOMEONE IN THIS INSTANCE DIDACTUALLY ACT HEROICALLY.

>> AND THAT'S VERIFIES WHAT I AMSAYING.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD BEDONE.

>> Larry: NOOO, THAT DOES NOTVERIFY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU ARE GIVING HORRIBLE ADVICE.

OKAY? PEOPLE ARE STILL GRIEVINGOVER THEIR LOVED ONES AND YOU

ARE GOING TO BLAME THE VICTIMSFOR NOT FIGHTING AGAINST A GUN?

AND, YES, CHRIS MINTZ WAS HEROICBUT YOU DON'T ADVISE PEOPLE WHO

ARE UNTRAINED TO HANDLESITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

IT'S TOO DANGEROUS.

EVEN THE POLICE ON THE SCENETRAINED TO DO THIS RAN THE

RISK OF BEING KILLED.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE YOUADVISE TO FIGHT BACK.

YOU KNOW BECOMING THE PRESIDENTMEANS YOU ARE THE COMMANDER IN

CHIEF OF THE MILITARY.

SO YOUR WAR PHILOSOPHY WOULD BE,"WE DON'T NEED WEAPONS OR

TRAINING.

JUST ATTACK.

CAN'T KILL US ALL.""OOPS, KILLED US ALL."

THIS BRAIN SURGEON'S BRAINSHARTS DID NOT END THERE.

IT TURNS OUT BEN CARSON THINKSARMING KINDERGARTEN TEACHERS

ISN'T A BAD IDEA.

>> IF THE TEACHER WAS TRAINED INTHE USE OF THE WEAPON AND HAD

ACCESS TO IT, I WOULD BE MUCHMORE COMFORTABLE IF THEY HAD ONE

THAN IF THEY DIDN'T.

>> YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT GOINGTO HAVE A WEAPON SITTING ON THE

KINDERGARTEN TEACHER'S DESK. ITWOULD BE SECURED IN A PLACE

WHERE KIDS COULD NOT GET TO IT.

>> OKAY.

ONE SMALL PROBLEM. THIS PLAN ISSO NUTS, IT LITERALLY CAN'T

GO ANYWHERE NEAR A KINDERGARTEN

CLASS BECAUSE TOO MANY KIDSTHESE DAYS HAVE NUT ALLERGIES.

SORRY, BEN.

THAT'S SCIENCE.

LET'S GO TO THE SOURCE FORSOME PERSPECTIVE ON HOW THIS CAN

ACTUALLY WORK IN THE REAL WORLD.LET'S GO TO KINDERGARTEN TEACHER

MISS HUGGINS.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME,LARRY.

>> NOW, MS. HUGGINS--

WAIT.

IS THAT AN AR-15 ON YOUR WALL?

>> OH, WOW.

YOU'VE GOT A GOOD EYE FORWEAPONRY LARRY.

>> Larry: WHY IS IT THERE?

>> OH, LARRY.

AS A TEACHER, YOU HAVE TOADAPT TO THE TIMES. YOU KNOW,

HOW SOME CLASSROOMS HAVE IPADS?MY CLASSROOM HAS GUNS.

BUT DON'T WORRY IT'S IN ASECURE PLACE WHERE KIDS CANNOT

GET TO IT.

SLIGHTLY ABOVE MY DESK.

>> Larry: WAIT.

SO THAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? YOU'RE HEAVILY ARMED?

>> OH, YEAH.

DURING THE KIDS NAP TIME, THAT'SMY STRAP TIME.

>> Larry: THAT'S HORRIBLE.

THIS SEEMS SO DANGEROUS.

>> PLEASE, LARRY, IF ANYTHINGIT'S INSPIRATIONAL.

LITTLE MADISON TOLD ME WHEN SHEGROWS UP, SHE WANTS TO BE A

SNIPER.

SO CUTE.

>> Larry: THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

>> YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WITH HER VISION, IT'LL NEVERHAPPEN.

WHY SHOULD I CRUSH HER DREAMS?

>> Larry: I WASN'T PICKINGON LITTLE MADISON.

I DON'T EVENUNDERSTAND.

HOW COME YOU EVEN HAVE A GUN INTHERE? DO YOU AT LEAST HAVE ANY

GUN TRAINING?

>> OF COURSE NOT, DO YOU KNOWANYTHING ABOUT EDUCATION

FUNDING? I HAVE TO PAY FOR MYOWN CHALK.

>> Larry: I DIDN'T REALIZE.LOOK, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS

REALLY A BAD IDEA. ANYTHINGCOULD HAPPEN.

>> MISS HUGGINS, PLEASE REPORTTO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE, IT

APPEARS YOUR CAR HAS BEEN TOWED.

>> MY CAR'S BEING TOWED?

NOT MY SCION. OH NO THEY DIDN'T.

>> Larry: WAIT, WAIT, NO,NO, NO.

MISS HUGGINS, EVERYONE.

WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK!

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK. THEREWAS BIG NEWS OUT OF CALIFORNIA

THIS WEEK.

ON MONDAY, GOVERNOR JERRYBROWN SIGNED INTO LAW

THE SO-CALLED "DEATH WITHDIGNITY" BILL, AND I KNOW WHAT

YOU'RE THINKING, BUT IT DOES NOTMEAN THAT EVERY DEAD PERSON

IN CALIFORNIA WILL BE NOW BURIEDWITH A TOP HAT.

>> THE DEATH WITH DIGNITY LAWALLOWS MENTALLY COMPETENT ADULTS

GIVEN SIX MONTHS OR LESS TO LIVETHE RIGHT TO A

PHYSICIAN-ASSISTED SUICIDE.NOW, AS A CATHOLIC,

GOVERNOR BROWN SAID IT WAS ADIFFICULT DECISION FOR HIM TO

SIGN THE LAW, BUT IN THE END HEWAS, QUOTE, "LEFT TO REFLECT

WHAT I WOULD WANT INTHE FACE OF MY OWN DEATH."

>> I AM FROM CALIFORNIA SO IF MYKIDS ARE WATCHING RIGHT NOW,

PLEASE KNOW THAT I STILL WANTWHAT I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED IF I

EVER BECOME TERMINALLY ILL.

SPACE CAMP.

ALL RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO GETTHAT OUT.

DON'T DO THAT TO DADDY.

THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.

>> NOW ASSISTED SUICIDE IS STILLA HOT BUTTON ISSUE IN AMERICA.

ONLY FOUR OTHER STATES BESIDESCALIFORNIA HAVE SIMILAR LAWS ON

THE BOOKS AND PROTESTERS SPOKEOUT AGAINST THE BILL FOR MONTHS

BEFORE FINALLY IT BECAME LAW.

AND BY THE WAY, OH, MY GOD, ARETHOSE CHILDREN PROTESTING A LAW

FOR TERMINALLY ILL ADULTS? ARETHEY EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW

WHAT DEATH IS? THEY PROBABLYSTILL THINK THEY'RE OLD PAL

RUFFLES IS ON A BIG, HAPPY FARMSOMEWHERE. "HE'S NOT, KIDS.

RUFFLES HAD A TUMOR AND WASIN IMMENSE AGONY UNTIL WE GAVE

HIM SOME PEACE.

BUT, HEY, GOOD LUCK WITH YOURCIVIL DISOBEDIENCE."

TOO SAD?

TOO SAD? I'M SORRY.

"LARRY WILMORE HATES KIDS ANDDOGS."

NOT TRUE.

I DON'T HATE DOGS.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

>> NOW, A LOT OF THE OPPOSITIONTO ASSISTED SUICIDE IS BASED ON

THE IDEA THAT OUR LIVES AREGIFTS FROM GOD AND, THEREFORE

NOT OURS TO END.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT FOX NEWSCONTRIBUTOR ANDREW NAPOLITANO

BELIEVES.

>> MY PERSONAL INCLINATION WOULDBE THAT THIS IS REPREHENSIBLE.

I DON'T OWN MY OWN BODY.

IT IS A GIFT TO ME FROM THECREATOR.

>> Larry: OKAY.

SOMETHING WORTH POINTING OUT ISTHAT ANDREW NAPOLITANO IS

OBVIOUSLY A WOLFMAN.

SO IT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW IT ISTRUE. SO HIS BODY BELONGS TO

WHATEVER MAD SCIENTIST SPLICEDHIS GENES.

THAT'S HOW YOU SPLICE GENES.

I THINK EVERYONE ELSESHOULD HAVE FREE REIGN.

THAT SAID, NOT EVERYONE AGREESWITH ME.

WE WANTED TO LEARN MOREABOUT WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE SO

OPPOSED TO ASSISTED SUICIDE LAW,SO JOINING ME NOW IS A MEMBER OF

THE ATLANTA-BASED GROUP ADULTAMERICANS AGAINST EUTHANASIA

GRADY GILLAN.

GRADY, THANKS FOR JOINING USON THE SHOW.

>> THANK YOU, LARRY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOUKNOW, HAVING ME AT MY OFFICE.

I JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GETTO THE STUDIO.

>> Larry: NO PROBLEM.

SO YOU ARE AGAINST THIS DEATHWITH DIGNITY LAW, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY, LARRY.

LISTEN, LIFE IS A TREASURE.

OKAY? IT IS PRECIOUS.

IT IS A GIFT FROM GOD, AND IT ISNOT OUR PLACE TO THROW IT AWAY

LIKE RAISINS ON HALLOWEEN, YOUKNOW.

>> Larry: BUT THE PEOPLE THISLAW IS FOR WOULD BE FACING

AGONIZING ENDS. SHOULDN'T IT BETHEIR RIGHT TO LEAVE ON THEIR

OWN TERMS, SURROUNDED BYTHEIR LOVED ONES?

>> LISTEN I SYMPATHIZE BUT THEFACT IS OUR BODIES BELONG TO A

HIGHER POWER. IT DOESN'T SAY"MADE IN CHINA" ON MY ASS. DOES

IT SAY "MADE IN CHINA" ON YOURASS?

>> Larry: NO OF COURSE NOT. OHWAIT, ARE YOU A DOCTOR?

>> OH, NO, NO, I WORK FOR THEGEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF

CORRECTIONS, ACTUALLY.

I AM AN EXECUTIONER.

>> Larry: YOU ARE ANEXECUTIONER? YOU JUST SAID OUR

BODIES BELONG TO GOD AND NOT THEGOVERNMENT.

>> YEAH, YOUR BODY DOES BELONGTO GOD UNTIL YOU ARE CONVICTED

OF A CRIME.

THEN YOUR BODY BELONGS TO THESTATE OF GEORGIA.

>> Larry: WAIT.

WAIT, WAIT.

BUT IF YOU THINK HUMAN LIFE ISPRECIOUS HOW CAN YOU THEN KILL

PEOPLE?

>> IT IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS,LARRY. I SAID I WAS AGAINST

ASSISTED SUICIDE, OKAY? I NEVERSAID I WAS AGAINST ASSISTED

HOMICIDE, LARRY.

>> Larry: YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLEOF AN EXECUTION.

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?

>> AGAIN, EXECUTION IS JUST WHATI DO TO PAY THE BILLS.

IT'S MY JOB.

I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IBELIEVE, OKAY? NOT WHAT I DO

EVERY DAY.

WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT ALL HUMANLIFE IS PRECIOUS AND SACRED.

OKAY?

DOUG, WE GET THE MIXTURE RIGHTTHIS TIME? LAST TIME THE GUY

WAS GAGGING AND SCREAMING ABOUTHOW HIS ARMS BEING ON FIRE.

>> Larry: YOU ARE KILLING THISGUY, AND IT'S SANCTIONED BY THE

STATE. DON'T YOU SEE THE IRONYIN ALL OF THIS?

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOUKEEP BRINGING MY JOB INTO THIS,

LARRY. THE POINT IS, GOD GAVEUS THIS, OUR BODIES.

>> Larry: RIGHT.

>> IT IS PRECIOUS.

>> Larry: OKAY.

>> THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE THERIGHT TO TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN

DESTROY IT.

LOOK, I CAN'T KEEP TALKABLEABOUT THIS.

IT IS ALMOST MIDNIGHT I HAVE TOGET BACK TO WORK.

OKAY LET'S GO PEOPLE.

THIS GUY IS NOT GOING TO KILLHIMSELF.

COME ON!

>> Larry: GRADY GILLAN,EVERYBODY.

WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK!

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

I AM HERE WITH MY PANEL.

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>> LARRY, I WANT TO COMPLIMENTYOU ON THE MIXED RACE CUP.

THANK YOU, JAY.

WE ARE KEEPING IT 100 HERE.

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LET'S JUMP RIGHT IN.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEN CARSONAND HIS RECENT COMMENTS ON THE

OREGON SHOOTING. NOW, YOU HADHIM ON YOUR SHOW.

>> I MET HIM YESTERDAY.

>> Larry: LET ME ASK YOU AQUESTION.

IS HE (BLEEP)ING CRAZY?

>> HERE'S MY READ.

I CALLED HIM "HUMAN MELATONIN"BECUSE HE'S VERY SLEEPY-SEEMING,

LIKE I NEEDED "CLOCKWORKORANGE" THINGS TO

PAY ATTENTION, YOU KNOW?

>> Larry: I CALL HIM "THESLEEPER CANDIDATE."

>> "THE SLEEPER CANDIDATE," BUTTRULY.

HE, TO ME, SEEMS LIKE ATHEKIND OF GUY THAT MIGHT SNAP AT

ANY MOMENT. I KNOW HE HAD ANGERISSUES AS A CHILD.

CAN I NOT SAY THAT?

>> Larry: IF YOU FELT THAT,THAT'S HORRIBLE.

NO, HE SAYS IT. GROWING UP, HEHAD ANGER ISSUES. HE ALMOST

STABBED A KID. AND HE TOOK THEBIBLE INTO THE TOILET,

AND CAME OUT A CHANGED MAN.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVEBEEN THERE, BUT THAT IS

WHAT HE SAYS.

>> Larry: IS THIS HOW APOTENTIAL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

SHOULD SOUND?

>> FIRST OF ALL, HE IS ABRILLIANT MAN.

AND IT'S VERY ODD THAT THESHARPEST KNIFE IN THE DRAWER IS

ALSO THE DULLEST KNIFE IN THEDRAWER.

HE SAID IF SOMEONE PULLED AGUN, HE WOULD ATTACK.

CAN WE GET THIS GUY SOME REDBULL? DOES ANYBODY MOVE SLOWER

THAN THIS GUY?

>> Larry: I KNOW.

HIS CLARION CALL FOR ACTION.

>> IT'S HUMAN QUAALUDES.

>> I BLAME TV. WHENEVER YOUWATCH A TV SHOW, ANY COP SHOW,

THE BAD GUYS GOT THE GUN TO THEGUY'S THROAT.

"I'M GONNA KILL YOU."

"YOU WON'T KILL ME BOB, I KNOWYOU WOULDN'T DO IT."

REAL PSYCHOPATHS KILL YOU.

THAT NEVER HAPPENS.

THEY BLOW YOU AWAY AND THEY MOVEON TO THE NEXT GUY.

ONLY ON TV DOES THAT HAPPEN.

>> Larry: EXACTLY.

>> PLUS HIS ADVICE WAS, YOUKNOW, ATTACK THEM, AND IT'S LIKE

THAT IS REALLY BAD ADVICE. WHATWOULD HIS ADVICE BE FOR LIKE

SCUBA DIVES? "HEY IF YOU AREUNDERWATER AND A SHARK

STARTS COMING AT YOU, REMEMBERTHE BUDDY SYSTEM:

TAKE YOUR KNIFE, STAB YOURBUDDY, SWIM TO SHORE.

THE BUDDY SYSTEM.

>> I GOT TO REMEMBER THAT.THAT'S EXCELLENT ADVICE.

>> YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TIME.

>> Larry: ARE WE SURE HE IS ASURGEON, JAY?

HE SOUNDS MORE LIKE A MORTICIAN.

>> HE IS THE ONLY PERSON TOSEPARATE CONJOINED TWINS AT THE

BRAIN.

I MEAN.

>> Larry: VERY IMPRESSIVE.

>> HE IS BRILLIANT--

>> BUT YOU HAVE TO BE SLOW TO DOTHAT. THINK ABOUT IT: THAT TAKES

A LOT OF TIME. I DON'T WANT ASPEEDY SURGEON COMING IN THERE

WITH A SCALPEL.

>> HE'S BRILLIANT. HE'SA CHRISTIAN GUY.

HE IS FAITHFUL TO HIS WIFE.

HOW DID HE GET INTO POLITICS INTHE FIRST PLACE?

THAT PART RIGHT THERE ISCONFUSING.

>> Larry: NOW, BOBBY, YOU WEREACTUALLY HELD UP AT GUNPOINT,

RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOURMIND? THIS HAPPENED AT A COMEDY

CLUB?

>> YES.

IN WEST LOS ANGELES BACK IN THENINETIES.

>> Larry: TRUE STORY.

>> THERE WERE FOUR OF USTHERE AFTER HOURS AND TWO GUYS

CAME IN, ONE GUY HAD ASAWED-OFF SHOTGUN AND

ONE GUY HAD A 9-MILLIMETER.

NONE OF THE THINGS YOU THINK GOTHROUGH YOUR HEAD THAT YOU

WOULD THINK.

AND WHEN THE GUY WAS POINTINGTHE GUN ABOUT 12 INCHES FROM MY

FACE, ALL I COULD DO WAS STAREAT THE GUN. YOU DON'T EVEN LOOK

AT THE GUY. AND I JUST REMEMBERTHINKING,

"WHOEVER SAWED THAT GUN DID AREALLY CRAPPY JOB."

IT'S ALL LIKE JAGGED, LIKE DIDTHEY DO IT ON THE WAY HERE?

LIKE [BLEEP] IT, I'M IN A REALHURRY.

YOU GOT TO GET THIS THINGDONE.

>> IT WASN'T BEN CARSON. HEWOULD HAVE HAD A STEADY SAW.

IT'S A VERY WERID THING,PLUS SURVIVAL MODE TAKES OVER.

SO IF YOU ARE IN A ROOM AND AGUY CAME IN AND IS LIKE. "ALL

THE CATHOLICS STAND UP," YOU'RELIKE, "MAYBE HE WILL LET US GO."

AND THEY ALL THE SUDDEN THEYSTART SHOOTING YOU, AND IT'S

LIKE, "NO, NO, NO,I'M EPISCOPALIAN."

SURVIVAL, THAT'S WHAT YOU ARETHINKING ABOUT THERE.

>> I JUST THINK IT'S FUNNY THATHE WANTS TO ARM KINDERGARTEN

TEACHERS. HE SAID IN OUR SHOW,ACTUALLY, THAT

HE WANTS TO HAVE A GUN IN EVERYCLASSROOM, PUT IT IN A LOCKED

BOX AND I AM THINKING IFA SHOOTER COMES INTO THIS

ROOM, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKEAMERICAN GLADIATORS.

REMEMBER THE TENNIS BALL GAMES,WHEN PEOPLE ARE DODGING

THE BULLETS? HOW CAN ANYBODYMAKE IT THROUGH THAT?

>> A TEACHER CAN'T EVEN DODGE ASPITBALL.

>> OH, HEY, HEY! HOW MANY TIMES-- HEY! HOW ARE YOU GOING TO

DODGE AN AK-47?

>> Larry: PLEASE EXPLAIN TO MEHOW IS THIS GUY STAYING HIGH IN

THE POLLS? I DON'T UNDERSTANDTHIS? HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? I

GUARANTEE YOU, AMERICA--

>> BECAUSE EVERYBODY --EVERYBODY THINKS THEY ARE GOING

TO BE THE HERO.

WHENEVER YOU WATCH A MOVIE ANDTHERE IS A FIGHT, THE FILM IS

NEVER THE PUNCH COMING ATYOU.

YOU ARE ALWAYS THROWING THEPUNCH. SO AS A VIEWER, YOU THINK

YOU ARE THE HERO OF THE MOVIE,AND THAT'S THE WAY HE TALKS,

LIKE YOU ARE IN A CLASSROOM.

HOW MANY PEOPLE GO,

"THAT'S WHAT I'D DO.

I'D JUST ATTACK THE GUNMAN."

>> YOU THINK A LOT OF PEOPLEAGREE WITH HIM?

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREEWITH HIM BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER

BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR THATSITUATION.

AND THE GUY THAT WAS THE HERO

OF THAT STORY, HE DID RUN AT HIMAND HE GOT SHOT SEVEN TIMES.

>> Larry: YES.

HE DID.

THAT WAS A VERY HEROIC THING TODO.

>> PLUS IF YOU ARE THE PERSONSAYING, "JUMP HIM," IT DOESN'T

MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING TOJOIN YOU.

YOU MIGHT BE LIKE, "HEY. OH[BLEEP].

COME ON, COME ON!"

>> Larry: YEAH, YEAH.

>> PLUS, IN HIS LOW-TALKING,HORSE WHISPER-Y VOICE--

"HEY, GUYS, COME ON, LET'S JUMPHIM."

YOU'D BE LIKE, "WHAT THE(BLEEP) DID HE SAY? 'HUMP HIM'?

WHY SHOULD WE HUMP THE GUNMAN?"

>> Larry: ALL RIGHT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE MORETHING.

YOU HAVE YOUR SHOW COMING OUT ONCNBC. I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LOVE

CARS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Larry: AND I AM SO GLAD. IWANT YOUR TAKE ON THE

VOLKSWAGEN THING. YOU HAVE ARARE VOLKSWAGEN, DON'T YOU?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY VOLKSWAGENS,NO.

>> Larry: OH, SO YOU HAVE DON'TGIVE A (BLEEP) ABOUT VOLKSWAGEN.

>> NO, BUT THAT PART THAT IS--

WE ALL KNOW THIS. THEY'VE BEEN

ACCUSED OF RIGGING THEEMISSIONS.

BUT THE BRILLIANT THINGIS, THE GERMANS ADMITTED TO

FRAUD.

YES, THEY ADMITTED TO FRAUDBECAUSE THE GERMANS WOULD RATHER

ADMIT TO FRAUD THANINCOMPETENCE.

IN AMERICA, WHAT DO WE DO? THEAIR BAG WENT OFF. LET'S ASK

LARRY THE ENGINEER. "I DON'TKNOW." PINTO BLOWS UP. "I GUESS

IT WAS A LOOSE NUT SOMEWHERE."

BUT THE GERMANS, IT WAS FRAUD."IT WAS BRILLIANT FRAUD.

IT WAS BRILLIANT FRAUD."

I MEAN, YOU KNOW THEY ARE PROUDTO BE ABLE TO DO THIS

11 MILLION TIMES BEFORETHEY GOT CAUGHT.

11 MILLION CARS GOT THROUGH.

>> ISN'T THAT CRAZY?

>> "THE IDIOT THAT HAD TO FOOLAROUND WITH THAT FORMULA."

IT'S FANTASTIC.

>> WAS IT SCHWARZENEGGER?

>> Larry: ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.