January 27, 2016 - Neil deGrasse Tyson's B.o.B Smackdown

  • 01/27/2016

Neil deGrasse Tyson takes rapper B.o.B to task over his flat Earth theory, and Larry chats about NFL star Cam Newton with Brandon Marshall, Ricky Velez and Jordan Carlos.

♪ Bum-bum, bum-bum, bum.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Welcome to The Nightly Show.

Such a great audience tonight.Man, thanks for...

-I know.-(applause and cheering)

Such a... such a...

such a nattily-attired audience.

Um... I'm Larry Wilmore.

Guys, New York Jets star BrandonMarshall joins us tonight.

(applause and cheering)

That's what I'm talking about.

That's some-some...

His boys arein the audience now.

MAN (shouting):Kappa...

All right, guys. All right.

MEN:Alpha Psi... cho!

That's right.

(laughter)

All right,let's go to our main story--

the victims of the Flintwater contamination.

Now, what happened to thesepeople is a national outrage.

And I promised that we at The Nightly Show weren't going

to let this story gountil it's resolved.

So let's check in withThe Larry People vs. Flint.

-All right.-(water dripping)

Hmm. Okay.

All right, what's the latest?

MAN: We're here in Flint, Michigan, where the city is

still under a state of emergency

following the lead water crisis.

The state is now encouraging every parent

to get their kids tested for lead in their blood.

We're at one of those testing locations.

You can see the sign behind me,says, uh,

"Family fun night& free lead testing."

(laughter and groaning)

Family fun night?

Come on, kids.

Finish your homework,or no blood work for you!

You want to get the leadout of your ass

so we can find if there's anyin your veins? Huh?

Christ sake, we're gonna be lateagain for family fun night!

Slash free lead testing.

All right, so thingsare pretty bleak in Flint,

but many people have cometo the rescue.

MAN: Hollywood's offering a helping hand to Flint.

Mark Wahlberg and Sean Daddy Combs.

-Wait.-(laughter)

Did he just say"Sean Daddy Combs?"

Who is that-- Diddy's daddy?

(laughter)

Maybe. I don't know.

I'm sorry. Continue.

MAN: Mark Wahlberg and Sean Daddy Combs,

who co-own a beverage company, have pledged a million bottles.

Cher has donated 181,000 bottles.

181,000 bottles?

-Why not 200,000?-(laughter)

Oh, yeah, she's a star,

so ten percent of those bottlesgo to her agent.

-(laughter and groaning)-I know. Do the math, you guys.

It's annoying, but you make itall back in your taxes.

Well, good job, celebs!I'm proud of you guys.

Okay, who else is helping out?

Senator Ted Cruz's Michiganoffice spent the day

handing out gallons of waterto the Flint community.

-Oh, Ted Daddy Cruz, huh?-(laughter)

That's a surprise, man.

Although, you know what?It is understandable

that he appreciatesthe importance of water,

because he is half-blobfish.

(laughter and groaning)

Hmm.

(applause and cheering)

Oh, my God!

That is actually horrifying,you guys.

I apologize to the blobfishfor that comparison.

I apologize, you guys.

Anyway, as long as Cruzisn't using this crisis

to score political points,then, yeah, that's great.

Here's everythingyou need to know about

how Ted Cruzapproaches politics.

He and his campaign decidedthat they should send water,

bottles of clean waterto people in Flint, Michigan.

But they only sent them

to people who were anti-abortionactivists in Flint.

-(audience groaning)-Only those people.

You have to (bleep)be kidding me.

(laughter)

People could diefrom this poisoned water.

Aren't you supposedto be pro-life?

(applause and cheering)

What if...?

So, you're only pro-life

for the peoplewho are pro-life, right?

And by the way, anyone dyingfrom leaded water is pro-life!

You pro-life?

Yes. Yes.

Give me the water. I...

Please. I'm pro-life, yeah.

I don't wantto be choking on something

with this guy in the room, hmm.

"Before I administerthe Heimlich,

"what's your stanceon immigration reform?

Hmm? Choose wisely!"

(imitates guttural choking)

"That soundslike you're against it."

(laughter)

It doesn't make sense.

And the grouphaving the toughest time

getting clean drinking water,uh, are undocumented immigrants,

or as Donald Trump calls them,"rapists."

-Now...-(audience groaning)

I didn't make that up, no. Yeah.

As reported by Fusion this week,

undocumented immigrantsare being denied free water

and are too scared to get help.

I mean, this is horrible,you guys.

These people can't reach outto government officials,

because they're afraidof being deported.

And as Fusion explains, Flintresidents need to show an ID,

or give a Social Security number

to pick up free water bottlesaround town.

I mean,when you're undocumented,

well, the problem is right therein the word-- no documents.

Look, it's one thing to requirean ID to,

you know, to vote, but to...

just to get some water?

And a Social Security number?

Just give them the damn waterthey need to survive, please!

Now, to put a face on thedesperate situation out there,

we go liveto speak with a Flint resident.

Please welcome Diego Ramirez.

(cheers and applause)

WILMORE:Um...

Oh, no. Oh, my goodness,Diego, why are you running?

Are you undocumented?

Well, I lost my ID, so I mightas well be, all right?

But I found a cool loophole,

so I can still get some water,Larry.

Uh, well, oh, really?What's the loophole?

I'm running marathons, Larry!I'm running marathons!

(laughter)

-(applause and cheering)-(Ramirez whoops)

-Yeah!-Wait a second. Hold on.

You went to all the troubleof running a marathon

just for the free waterthey hand out?

Marathons, Larry. This ismy fourth one today, all right?

It's surprising how much wateryour body actually needs,

especially whenyou're running marathons, man.

That seems so wrong to me,

that you have to go that farjust to get some water!

Actually, to be exact,

I've gone 104.5 milesto get some water. Yeah.

Really?

Uh, no. Disgusting!

(laughter)

Wait. Why did you justreject that water?

It was Dasani, Larry.

I'm thirsty, but I'm not ananimal. Get out of here! Ugh!

(laughter)

I'm not sureif that makes sense.

-Oh.-All right. Uh...

-Mmm.-Oh.

-That was... -Oh, that onewas more to your liking?

Ooh, yeah. That's that JenniferLawrence-donated water.

That's that good (bleep), Larry.

That's that good (bleep),top shelf.

Uh, look, I have to say,

it really doesn't seemreally marathony.

Why... why aren't thereany other runners around you?

Well, I guess I've fallen alittle bit behind pace, Larry.

-I'm sorry.-Oh. Seems more like a little.

Are you in last place?

How about you cut mesome slack, Larry?

-I'm sorry. -This is my fourth(bleep) marathon today.

-Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.I'm sorry. -(laughter)

Look, but let me ask you this.

Shouldn't Flint be ashamedof itself

for making its citizens go

to such extreme measuresjust for water?

Larry, I'm not tryingto blame anybody.♪

I'm just trying to survive.Look at my grandma--

she was so thirsty yesterday,she beat the Kenyans.

-The Kenyans. No one everdoes that. -Oh, my God.

That's really hard.

-Wow, that's fantastic.-The Kenyans?

-They're so fast.-Diego Ramirez, everybody.

Good luck, Diego.

-♪ -(cheering, applause)

Welcome back. Now...

if you spent any time on Twitterin the past 48 hours,

then you've heard aboutour next story.

Rapper B.o.B. blowing up Twitter

with his theories onthe actual shape of the earth.

Rapper B.o.B.-- perhaps you knowhim for hits "Airplanes"

and "Nothin' On You"-- he firmlybelieves that the earth is flat.

He is on a Twitter missionto prove it,

and he says he hasphotographic evidence

and that we've beenfooled all this time.

Mm. Mm.

You know, guys, first timeI heard "Nothin' On You",

I definitely thought,"This B.o.B. guy--

he is the one to finally takedown that asshole Aristotle."

Take him down.Take him down.

Seriously, though,these tweets are amazing.

"...the horizonis always eye level..."

"Once you go flatyou never go back"?

"...where is the curve?"

Um, B.o.B., if you'relooking for the curve,

you got to call Sir Mix-A-Lot.

That is a manwho did not deny science.

He did not.Am I right?

I'm not lying about that. Okay.

Anyway, so this thingwent viral.

And even world-renownedsuper scientist

and friend of The Nightly Show Neil deGrasse Tyson

got involved and refuted someof B.o.B.'s retrograde nonsense,

which prompted B.o.B.to release a diss track

called "Flatline".Here's a taste.

♪ Neil Tysonneed to loosen up his vest ♪

♪ They'll probably write thatman one hell of a check ♪

♪ Flat line, flat line

♪ You got me oncebut that died, aye ♪

Oh, (bleep)!

This (bleep)just got real, y'all.

Uh-oh.

I'm gonna tell you--looks like we've got ourselves

a r...code red science emergency.

So I'm gonna have todo something I rarely do.

I got to hitthe science panic button.

WOMAN: Science emergencydefense program initiated.

Science emergency defenseprogram initiated.

-Oh, my God. -Science emergencydefense program initiated.

(audience cheering, applauding)

WILMORE: Hey, Neil...Neil deGrasse Tyson!

-Larry?-It's Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Neil deGrasse Tyson, everybody.

Yes.

Look at... look at that.Thank you.

-Larry...-Yes?

I'm trying to eat my dinner,I got your distress call.

-I apologize, I know.-Is everything okay?

No, Neil, everythingis not okay.

This B.o.B. BS aboutthe earth being flat

is getting out of control.Can you please help us?

Uh, h-hold my sandwich.

-Oh, sure, okay.-I'm sorry.

Here, you take that.Here, here, you want your...

-Oh. Oh. Oh, my God. Okay.-(audience cheering, applauding)

Looks good.All right. Go.

All right, listen B.o.B.,once and for all.

The earth looks flatbecause, one,

you're not far enough awayat your size.

Two, your... your sizeisn't large enough

relative to earthto notice any curvature at all.

It's a fundamental factof calculus

and non-Euclidean geometry.

Small sectionsof large curved surfaces

will always look flat to littlecreatures that crawl upon it.

But this...

but this whole thing-- it's justa symptom of a larger problem.

There's a growinganti-intellectual strain

in this country that many th...that may be

the beginning of the endof our informed democracy.

O-Of course, in a free society,

you can and shouldthink whatever you want.

And if you want to think theworld is flat, go right ahead.

But if you think the worldis flat and you have influence

over others,as would successful rappers

or even presidential candidates,

then being wrong

becomes being harmful--

to the health, the wealth,

and the securityof our citizenry.

Discovery and explorationgot us out of the caves.

And each generation benefits

from what previous generationshave learned.

Isaac Newton, my man,said, "I have...

"If I have seenfarther than others,

it's by standingon the shoulders of giants."

(cheering, whooping)

-WILMORE: Yeah! (whoops)-Can I get an amen?

So that's right, B.o.B.,when you stand on the shoulders

of those who came before,

you might justsee far enough to realize

the earth isn't (bleep) flat.

And by the way...

this is called gravity.

-(cheering, applause)-Oh! Oh!

Neil deGrasse Tyson, everybody!

Oh! We'll be right back.

-Oh! Oh!-I'm out!

-♪ -(cheering, applause)

Yeah. Welcome back.I'm here with my panel.

First up, Nightly Show contributor Ricky Velez.

And Nightly Show contributorJordan Carlos.

All right.

And he's the co-founderof Project 375,

a foundation that promotesmental health awareness,

six-time pro bowler and widereceiver for the New York Jets

Brandon Marshall, everybody.

That was a longintroduction, Larry.

That was...

Okay, very nice.For everyone at home,

join our conversationright now on Twitter.

@NightlyShowusing #Tonightly.

Brandon, I'm so glad you're here'cause I wanted to talk about

Cam Newton, quarterback of thePanthers, everybody out there,

going to the Super Bowl,had an amazing year.

-Yup. -Will probablybe the MVP, right?

-MVP. He is the MVP. -Oh, well,he's got to be the MVP, right?

Had a great year.But he's getting a lot of flack

for all the, uh, celebratingthat he's doing.

I don't know if you've seen it,but, like, when he scores

a touchdown, he really goes...he goes far.

Okay, right?Like, the first thing he does,

he does this little...he stomps something out, right?

Then he gets into that.And then, uh, then he does,

like, this kind of thing.He goes down.

-Then he, like...-I've never seen him do that.

-What game are you watching?-You've never seen him do that?

No, you hav...Then he dabs a couple times,

-like, he-he does, like...-Larry, Larry.

-He doub... He-he double dabs.-He double dabs.

They... He double dabs, right?He's... (grunts) Right?

-So he double dabs...-But Larry, this-this isn't

-the Christmas party--you shouldn't... -Yeah,

-you want to stop. -No, I'm justshowing you what he does.

I'm showing you what he does.Then he just starts

-feeling everything, then hedoes this, right? -Oh, wow.

-You have no rhythm.-Yeah.

No, but I'm just showing youwhat you he does.

I'm not supposed to have rhythm.

-You also have no chill.-Well, you do it, you do it.

I definitelydon't have any rhythm.

-Larry... -Wait, okay, wait,but that's not all.

-And then he starts taking offthe Superman shirt, right?

-Larry. La-La-Larry, Larry.-Then he starts

running with the football.Brandon...

-But the funny thing is...-is that too much?

-this is exactly how it goes.-Right?

I mean, it's 15, 20seconds. Listen,

I don't want my... I don't wantmy quarterback dancing.

You know,I'm from the old school.

And people look at me, "Well,you're only 31 years old."

Well, I'm from the old school,okay? Get over it.

So I'm from the old school,so I want my quarterback

to get back in the hud-huddleand lead us.

But what we have to understand,this is the n...

the new generation.This is what they're doing next.

They're disruptive, right?They're disrespectful.

They don't give a damnabout anyone.

And I kind of like it.I kind of like it.

-(cheering and applause)-I don't... -So...

I couldn't tell if you werefor it or against it.

Yeah. (laughs) Well, you gotto look at it. Odell Beckham Jr.

And then you have Cam Newton,who I think is leading the way.

Go back to when he was a rookieand he said, "Listen,

-I want to be a icon."You want to be a icon, -Yeah.

you can't stay in the box.You have to get out of the box.

-You have to be disruptive.-Right. Right. Right. But, uh...

but about being quarterback,I just think it's too much.

Like, as a player, aren'tyou afraid your quarterback

becomes a targetwhen he's taunting and...

So too much?That's the question, is too...

-He's 15-1. He's the MVP. Right?-Thank you. Thank you.

-He's gonna be the sixth...-I'd be dancing all day.

He's gonna be the sixthAfrican-American quarterback

-leading his team to the SuperBowl. -That's all good stuff!

-He's-he's selling out thestadium. -That's not bad stuff.

-Yeah. -It's working. It'sworking. -People hate him...

-That's good stuff.-It's just he's dancing, man.

-No one... Just stop, man.-What's wrong with dancing?

It's like... No, but, like...All right.

It's like we all go to the club.We're all at the club.

-We're hanging out. We gotgirls all around us. -Okay. Yes.

-Yes. -Then some dude walks in,starts dancing.

All the girls are like,"Let's go watch him dance."

We'd be, "(bleep) that guy."

This is the entertainmentbusiness. The NFL

did $10 billionin revenue last year. Why?

-Because it's entertaining.-It's very entertaining. -Yeah.

But he also... he also punchedin some of these... some

of these touchdowns himself,you know what I'm saying?

So when you do that, you'regoing to celebrate, you know?

He does it so well, sometimes I,like, want to throw him a cane

or something like that.It's... He's a terri...

-He's got great rhythm.He's a terrific dancer. -Okay.

-All right. Let me ask you this.So, uh, -I just think...

he's getting so much criticism.Here's what Cam said. He said...

WILMORE (reading):

-Right. -Yep.-WILMORE: Okay, so does any

of the criticism of Camfeel racial?

You know what, first of all,I want to say this,

-I commend him because,back in the day, -Mmm.

our athletes and entertainersused to be civil rights leaders.

They used to speak up. But nowthe business has taken over.

You have these brandslike Under Armour, Nike,

and-and Beats by Dre and,uh, the-the yogurt thing

that he endorsed. They come in,they tell you, "You know what,

"just be a good boy,shut your mouth,

and collect your check."So I am one of those guys that,

you know, if I have an opinion,I'm gonna say it.

That's... I guess that's whyI'm on four... my fourth team.

-But...-(cheering and applause)

-but...-Hey, man,

keep it 100 though.

But when you look at it,it's a generational thing.

-It's... You know? And I...and I just stick to that. -Yeah.

-I don't think it's racial.I just think that, -Yeah.

you know, there's a boxthat we put our quarterbacks in,

and we say, "This ishow you're supposed to be.

-"This is how Peyton Manningdid it. -Right.

"This is how Joe Montana did it,Tom Brady.

-So you do it the same way."-I think it's more generational

-than racial. What do you think?-I get... It could be

gene-racial, you know?Like, I think...

-I think there's... Yeah.-Gene-racial? -Gene-racial?

I think... I hear...I hear... Yeah.

Like Tennessee mom makingthat letter about Cam Newton

with the game. And I thinkthere's-there's a lot of...

But that's what white people dowhen they get upset.

-They write letters.Like, that's... -Right. Right.

-That's what I'm saying.-That's what they do.

They get upset.What did she get upset about?

-She got upset that... Yeah.-You can't Yelp a football game.

-She wanted to Yelp it. -She gotupset that he was dancing.

He was dancing too much,you know what I mean?

And it's like... She was like,"You're supposed to be

a role model." I think CharlesBarkley clearly explained

that you don't have to bea role model and be an athlete.

-A role model?-And speaking about, you know,

-Johnny Manziel, he's a QB.-He's not getting arrested.

-He's never been arrested.Maybe in college. -Uh...

-I was gonna say... Yeah.-Yeah. (laughs)

Let's stay with...let's stay with the pros.

-Let's stay Pros Cam, you know?Yeah. -He's been great.

He's been great. He's been...he's been a great voice for us,

-and he's doingsome amazing things. -Yeah.

I love it. Keep doing it.Keep dancing.

-He's a great player. It's justa little taunt-y. -Keep dancing.

-It's a little taunt-y.-You don't like it?

-Well, probably 'cause you're...But you're a Seattle fan. -Yeah.

No, that has nothing to dowith it. That's got nothing

-to do with, like...-Nothing to do with it?

No, it's-it's about old school.To me, he's the leader of...

-He's the... -You guys lost.You guys got your butts kicked.

-He's the leader... The Jets?-Wow.

When was the last time theJets were in the Super Bowl?!

(cheering and applause)

-We got our butts kicked.-(booing)

-When was the last time? You-youhad the... -This explains...

-Wait, hold on! Hold on!-This is my first year here!

You were on the Broncosand you're not there

-and now they'rein the Super Bowl! -Oh, (bleep)!

-(laughter, gasping)-He's our guest! He's our guest!

-Oh, (bleep)! -Come on!Come on, man. Come on.

-You know that's true.-I love it.

All right, Brandon,it's time for the game

-we like to call Keep It 100.Keep It 100. -Mmm.

All right.Brandon, you know how this goes.

You got to answer theq-question. You got to keep it

-100% real. If you do not,-Okay.

I got to throw some weak teaat you.

Get it right, you get a sticker.All right.

-There's real tea over there.-Your team, the Jets...

your Jets team barely missedthe play-offs this season.

You guys had a really good year.I thought you guys

were gonna go a long way. Butyou didn't. That's all right.

-Is it all right? -It'sall right. It is what it is.

-It's not all right.-All right, I'm sure you'd love

-to be preparing forthe Super Bowl right now. -Yes.

Everybody knows that.Okay, keep it 100.

-Are your Jets better-- keepthis 100% real-- -All right.

-100. -are they better than bothteams playing in the Super Bowl?

-Yes. Yes.-(man shouts)

-You're keeping that 100% real?-Absolutely.

-You missed the play-offs.-We missed the play-offs.

-I mean, you got to look at it.It comes down -You're better

-to... -than the Panthers?-MAN: Yes!

(laughter)

You're better than the Panthers?

-(shouting) -You're betterthan the Panthers?

-Listen, it's about who's hot.And I think... -You're better

than the Panthers?That's what you're telling me?

You just went onabout Cam Newton.

-Okay, okay, okay! -You'renot better than the Panthers.

(laughter)

That's what you get, some weaktea. I don't even want to hear

the rest. We'll be right back.

-I'm sorry...-(cheering and applause)

YARD: Grab some free tickets to attend an upcoming taping

of The Nightly Show.

All right. Thanksto my panelists Ricky Velez,

Jordan Carlos,and Brandon Marshall.

A special thanks to NeildeGrasse Tyson for being here.

-(cheering and applause)-Uh, thank you, Neil. Aw.

We're almost out of time,but before we go,

I got to keep it 100.Keep It 100.

Okay, tonight's questionis from @cpusavant.

They ask, "#KeepIt100. If theonly way Cosby goes to prison

"for life was for you to swearallegiance to the Patriots

forever, would you?" What?

The Patriots? Why the Patriots?

-Um...-(groans)

-Uh...-(growls) -What's it gonna be?

-Come on.-(laughter)

-All right, I'll-I'll do it!-No!

Only for that! I'll do it!I'll do it!

-Oh, no! I hate myself!-You kept it 100,

-but that's terrible, man.-I hate myself though.

Yeah. Welcome back.I'm here with my panel.

First up, Nightly Show contributor Ricky Velez.

-Yeah.-(cheers and applause)

And Nightly Show contributorJordan Carlos.

-(cheers and applause)-All right.

And he's the co-founderof Project 375,

a foundation that promotesmental health awareness.

Six-time pro-bowlerand wide receiver

for the New York Jets,Brandon Marshall, everybody.

That was a long introduction,Larry.

(cheers and applause)

WILMORE:I like that.

Very nice. For everyone at home,join our conversation right now

on Twitter @NightlyShowusing the hashtag #Tonightly.

Brandon, I'm so glad you're here'cause I wanted to talk about

Cam Newton, quarterbackof the Panthers,

for everybody out there,going to the Super Bowl.

-Had an amazing year.-Yup. Yup.

-Will probably be the MVP,right? -MARSHALL: MVP.

-He is the MVP. -Probably.He's got to be the MVP. Right.

Right. Had a great year,but he's getting a lot of flack

for all the celebratingthat he's doing.

I don't know if you've seen it,

but, like,when he scores a touchdown,

-he really goes... he goes far.Okay, right? -Checking in.

Like the first thing he does--he does this little...

He stomps something out, right?

-And he gets into that.-Why? Why? -Oh.

And then.... then he does,like, this kind of thing.

-He goes down. Then he, like...-I've never seen him do that.

What game are you watching?

-You've never seen him do that?No, you haven't. -No...

Then he arms a couple of times.Like he... he does that.

-Larry? Larry? Please.-He double... he doubled down.

-He doubled down! (laughs)-Yeah, he doubled down, right?

He's, "Aah, aah." Right?So, he doubled down, and...

But, Larry, this isn'tthe Christmas party.

-You shouldn't...-Yeah, Larry, you need to stop.

-No, I'm showing youwhat he does. -I'll just...

Then he just startsstealing everything.

-Then he does this, right?-Oh, wow.

-MARSHALL: You have no rhythm.-CARLOS: Yeah.

-No, but I'm just showing youwhat you he does! -Right.

I'm not supposedto have rhythm. Well, you do it.

-You also have no chill.-You show it.

-CARLOS: Please. -I definitelydon't have any rhythm.

-Oh. Larry. Larry.-Okay, wait. But that's not all.

And then he starts taking offthe Superman shirt, right?

CARLOS:No, Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry.

Then he starts runningwith the football.

Brandon, is that too much?

-But the funny thing is, this isexactly how it goes. -Right?

-I mean, it's 15, 20 seconds.-WILMORE: Yes. Thank you.

Listen, I don't wantmy quarterback dancing.

You know, I'm from the oldschool, and people look at me.

-"Well, you're only 31 yearsold." -Yeah.

Well, I'm from the old school,okay? Get over it.

So I'm from the old school,so I want my quarterbacks

to get back in the huddleand lead us.

But we have to understand,this is the new generation.

-WILMORE: Right. -This is whatthey're doing next.

They're disruptive, right?They're disrespectful.

They don't give a damnabout anyone.

And I kind of like it.I kind of like it.

-(cheers and applause)-Yeah. -I don't... -You got...

I couldn't tell if you werefor it or against it.

Well, you got to look at it.

-Odell Beckham Jr.-WILMORE: Yeah?

And then you have Cam Newton,who I think is leading the way.

Go back to when he was a rookie,and he said,

-"Listen, I want to be an icon."-Yeah.

If you want to be an icon,you can't stay in the box.

You have to get out the box, andyou have to be disruptive.

WILMORE: Right, right, right.But about being quarterback.

I just think it's too much.

Like, as a player, aren't youafraid your quarterback

becomes a targetwhen he's taunting and...?

So too much?That's the question. It's too...

He's 15 and one. He's the MVP.

-CARLOS: Thank you. Thank you.Thank you. Yeah. -Right?

VELEZ: I'll be dancingall day.

He's gonna be the sixthAfrican-American quarterback

leading his teamto the Super Bowl. -Yeah.

-WILMORE: That's all good stuff!-He's...

-That's not bad stuff!-He's selling out the stadium.

CARLOS:Yeah.

It's working. It's working.

-That's good stuff.-It's just he's dancing, man.

-No one... Just stop, man.-What's wrong with dancing?

-I love these boys.-All right.

It's, like.... No, but, like...

All right, it's likewe all go to the club.

-We're all at the club,we're hanging out. -Yeah.

-CARLOS: Okay. Yes. Yes.-We got girls all around us.

Then some dude walks inand starts dancing,

and all the girls are like,"Let's go watch him dance."

-We'd be, (bleep) that guy.-(laughter and applause)

-Yeah, but, I mean...-He's dancing.

-No one likes the dudethat's dope at dancing. -Yeah.

I mean, is this football,or is this polo?

Like, let the man dance ifhe wants to dance and celebrate.

-Wait. -Like, why does therehave to be so much decorum?

-Wait. Wait. -Have you ever...?Let me just say this.

-Have you ever seen...?-No, no, no.

What the hell does footballhave to do with dancing?

-You're like... -Is thisfootball, or is it polo?

(overlapping chatter)

If I ever score a touchdown,

I already have my danceplanned out, so, like,

I ready. Like, I'm ready forwhen they call me to the draft.

-It's gonna be dope, and...-MARSHALL: So you're in the...

-CARLOS: What dancing? -VELEZ:Come on. Why wouldn't you dance?

You just scored a touchdownagainst dudes this size.

-No, I get it. I get it.I know, but... -Like, you dance.

-Yes. -Yeah, but isn't therea little bit of...?

Act like you've been therebefore. Come on.

Come on, Brandon. Seriously.

I mean, that's what I do.

You know, when I score,you know, I had the ball to ref.

Sometimes I may give thanks

or whateverand hang out with my team.

WILMORE: But you're a widereceiver. You should be showing.

Yeah, but you guysgot to understand.

I go back to my first point.

-This is a generational thing.-WILMORE: Yeah. Yeah?

You know, this new generation--Odell Beckham, Jr.--

I don't know whatthat dance is that he does.

I can't do it. I'm not gonna tryto do it. -WILMORE: Yeah.

-They make fun of me. -VELEZ:You sound like you hate it.

-But this is what they're doing.-Sounds like you hate it.

-Sounds like you hate it.-I love it. No, I'm for it.

This is the entertainmentbusiness. The NFL

did $10 billionin revenue last year. Why?

-Because it's entertaining.-It's very entertaining. -Yeah.

But he also... he also punchedin some of these... some

of these touchdowns himself,you know what I'm saying?

So when you do that, you'regoing to celebrate, you know?

He does it so well, sometimes I,like, want to throw him a cane

or something like that.It's... He's a terri...

-He's got great rhythm.He's a terrific dancer. -Okay.

-All right. Let me ask you this.So, uh, -I just think...

-So, uh, he's beengetting so much... -(man shouts)

Okay. He's gettingso much criticism.

Here's what Cam said. He said...

"I'm an African-Americanquarterback that scares people

"because theyhaven't seen nothing

that they can compare me to."

-Right. -Yep.-WILMORE: Okay, so does any

of the criticism of Camfeel racial?

You know what, first of all,I want to say this,

-I commend him because,back in the day, -Mmm.

our athletes and entertainersused to be civil rights leaders.

They used to speak up. But nowthe business has taken over.

You have these brandslike Under Armour, Nike,

and-and Beats by Dre and,uh, the-the yogurt thing

that he endorsed. They come in,they tell you, "You know what,

"just be a good boy,shut your mouth,

and collect your check."So I am one of those guys that,

you know, if I have an opinion,I'm gonna say it.

That's... I guess that's whyI'm on four... my fourth team.

-But...-(cheering and applause)

-but...-Hey, man,

keep it 100 though.

But... but when you look at it,it's a generational thing.

-It's... You know? And I...and I just stick to that. -Yeah.

-I don't think it's racial.I just think that, -Yeah.

you know, there's a boxthat we put our quarterbacks in,

and we say, "This ishow you're supposed to be.

-"This is how Peyton Manningdid it. -Right.

"This is how Joe Montana did it,Tom Brady.

-So you do it the same way."-I think it's more generational

-than racial. What do you think?-I get... It could be

gene-racial, you know?Like, I think...

-I think there's... Yeah.-Gene-racial? -Gene-racial?

I think... I hear...I hear... Yeah.

Like Tennessee mom makingthat letter about Cam Newton

with the game. And I thinkthere's-there's a lot of...

But that's what white people dowhen they get upset.

-They write letters.Like, that's... -Right. Right.

-That's what I'm saying.-That's what they do.

They get upset.What did she get upset about?

-She got upset that... Yeah.-You can't Yelp a football game.

-She wanted to Yelp it. -She gotupset that he was dancing.

He was dancing too much,you know what I mean?

And it's like... She was like,"You're supposed to be

a role model." I think CharlesBarkley clearly explained

that you don't have to bea role model and be an athlete.

-A role model?-And speaking about, you know,

-Johnny Manziel, he's a QB.-He's not getting arrested.

-He's never been arrested.Maybe in college. -Uh, (bleep).

-I was gonna say... Yeah.-Yeah. (laughs)

Let's stay with...let's stay with the pros.

-Let's stay Pros Cam, you know?Yeah. -He's been great.

He's been great. He's been...he's been a great voice for us,

-and he's doingsome amazing things. -Yeah.

I love it. Keep doing it.Keep dancing.

-He's a great player. It's justa little taunt-y. -Keep dancing.

-It's a little taunt-y.-You don't like it?

-Well, probably 'cause you're...But you're a Seattle fan. -Yeah.

No, that has nothing to dowith it. That's got nothing

-to do with, like...-Nothing to do with it?

No, it's-it's about old school.To me, he's the leader of...

-He's the... -You guys lost.You guys got your butts kicked.

-He's the leader... The Jets?-Wow.

When was the last time theJets were in the Super Bowl?!

(cheering and applause)

-We got our butts kicked?-(booing)

-When was the last time? You-youhad the... -Hold on! Hold on!

-Wait, hold on! Hold on!-This is my first year here!

You were on the Broncosand you're not there

-and now they'rein the Super Bowl! -Oh, (bleep)!

-(laughter, gasping)-He's our guest! He's our guest!

-Oh, (bleep)! -Come on!Come on, man. Come on.

-You know that's true.-I love it.

No, but it's old school is whatit is. You said it-you said it

-very well, it's old school.-I'm with you on that.

I believe the quarterback's theleader of the team, you become

a target. If he gets RG...if his knees get RG3'd

while he's going for an endzone, it's because

-of that taunting.-Yeah, but-but...

Just... A lot of it is taunting,it's more than celebrating.

-Some of it is taunting. -AaronRodgers did the same thing.

-Aaron Rodgers...-Aaron Rodgers does that.

-He did that all the way to theSuper Bowl. -He doesn't do 30...

-he doesn't do 30 seconds ofdancing. -Just showing...

-Just showing off his dad bod.Bam! -Exactly.

-He's like, "I got a gut."-Tom Brady--

he's throwing-he's throwingf-bombs and firing his team up

and, I mean, it's a differentway of doing it, but he's

-still a role model. -Did Ijust stand up for Tom Brady?

-You don't like Tom? -Man, youare making friends on this show.

Come on.

Like-like, come on. I-I mean,I feel like those arguments

against Cam,like he's, whatever, brash,

-uh, he dances too much,-I'm not mad at him.

-I mean, he can do whateverhe wants. -I think...

What I think they areare proxy arguments.

What they're trying to say is,like, "You know what,

I really don't like his...He's an Obama voter." You know?

-Like, that's... Yeah. -No.It comes down to being a fan.

-No! No? -People are fan...people are fans.

And when you're a fanof somebody else, you just find

(bleep), like...Bro, you're cool. We were joking

in the green room. We've had funout here. But once you're

against... on the Giants,(bleep) you. I got no love

-for you. I don't like you.-I don't... -We won this year!

-I just don't like you! -That'sright. They did win this year.

-On the field. -That's right.-But that's what Cam said

though-- he did say,"It's because I'm black."

A lot of it is fandom.Let me tell you guys,

fans are the most virulentof all of this (bleep).

I mean, look at thePhiladelphia fans. The stuff

that they've done. I know.You-you (bleep)

do some wrong (bleep) though.You know it.

You guys curse a loton this show.

Well, man, it's cable. Come on.

It's cable. It's cable.It's basic cable.

Well, I mean, yeah,a Philadelphia fan once, uh...

his... What was it?Like, famously barfed

-on a little girl, right? Uh...-Oh, yeah. What's that about?

There was one...there was a video this week...

there was a video this week.A Broncos fan, this...

The-the New England fan wentto use the Porta Potti,

and they kicked it over.Just 'cause he likes New England

he got poop all over him.Like, that's...

-that's crazy! -Terrible.Terrible. -Okay, last question.

All right, Brandon,who do you want to win and why?

-Keep it 100.-You know what, um,

-I think Carolina's gonna win.-Mm-hmm.

Because they have Cam Newton.He's dancing all over the place.

The energy that he's carriedthroughout the whole year

-has been amazing.-Yeah.

But I am pickingthe Denver Broncos. Why?

-Because...-(applause)

on our show Inside the NFL, a couple weeks ago,

I picked them to win the SuperBowl 27 to 24 over Arizona...

-the Arizona Cardinals.-Mm-hmm.

So I have to stick with them.I cannot renege.

-Mmm. -Don't be a ren... Yeah.-So did I answer the question?

-You did great. Just don't bea... Yeah, don't be -Okay.

-a reneger. That's...-(laughter, groaning)

That's what peoplewere thinking!

They were thinking that.

Jordan Carlos for you,always making it about race.

It's time for the gamewe like to call Keep It 100.

-Keep It 100. All right.-Yeah. -Mmm.

Brandon, you know how this goes.

You got to answer theq-question. You got to keep it

-100% real. If you do not,-Okay.

I got to throw some weak teaat you.

Get it right, you get a sticker.All right.

-There's real tea over there.-Your team, the Jets...

your Jets team barely missedthe play-offs this season.

You guys had a really good year.I thought you guys

were gonna go a long way. Butyou didn't. That's all right.

-Is it all right? -It'sall right. It is what it is.

-It's not all right.-All right, I'm sure you'd love

-to be preparing forthe Super Bowl right now. -Yes.

Everybody knows that.Okay, keep it 100.

-Are your Jets better-- keepthis 100% real-- -All right.

-100. -are they better than bothteams playing in the Super Bowl?

-Yes. Yes.-(man shouts)

-You're keeping that 100% real?-Absolutely.

-You missed the play-offs.-We missed the play-offs.

-I mean, you got to look at it.It comes down -You're better

-to... -than the Panthers?-MAN: Yes!

(laughter)

You're better than the Panthers?

-(shouting) -You're betterthan the Panthers?

-Listen, it's about who's hot.And I think... -You're better

than the Panthers?That's what you're telling me?

You just went onabout Cam Newton.

-Okay, okay, okay! -You'renot better than the Panthers.

(laughter)

That's what you get, some weaktea. I don't even want to hear

-the rest. Brandon Marshall,everybody. -Oh, my God.

(cheering and applause)