October 5, 2015 - Mass Shooting in Oregon

  • 10/05/2015

Larry revisits his interview with presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, and Rory Albanese, Mike Yard and Ashleigh Banfield weigh in on a mass shooting at an Oregon college.

>> Larry: THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

WELCOME TO THE NIGHTLY SHOW.

WHAT A GREAT CROWD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

(AUDIENCE CHANTING "LARRY")>> Larry: THANKS FOR COMING.

THEY'RE RIGHT.I'M LARRY WILMORE.

I DON'T THINK THEY KNOW MY LASTNAME.

LARRR-EEEE!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW I HAVE TO SAY, WE'RE STILLTRYING TO WRAP OUR

HEADS AROUND THE HORRIBLE EVENTTHAT HAPPENED ON THURSDAY IN

OREGON.

IT'S TOUGH TO TALK ABOUT, BUTONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S

TOUGHEST FOR AMERICANS TO TALKABOUT IS THE ISSUE OF GUNS.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ITIN A SEGMENT WE'RE CALLING,

"AMERICA'S CONVERSATION ABOUTNOT TALKING ABOUT GUNS."

OKAY, STEP ONE IN NOT TALKINGABOUT GUNS IS CALLED

EXHAUSTMENT.

THIS STEP BEGINS BY OVERWHELMINGUS WITH NUMBERS.

>> THIS WAS THE 45th SCHOOLSHOOTING AT AN AMERICAN SCHOOL

THIS YEAR.

>> IT MARKS 142 SIMILAR SCHOOLSHOOTINGS SINCE SANDY HOOK.

>> 294 MASS SHOOTINGS THIS YEARALONE, NEARLY A THOUSAND SINCE

THE DATABASE WAS CREATED.

>> 380 PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN MASSSHOOTINGS THIS YEAR ALONE.

>> THESE FIGURES DON'T INCLUDEEVERYDAY INCIDENTS OF GUN

VIOLENCE WHICH THIS YEAR HAVERESULTED IN 10,000 PEOPLE LOSING

THEIR LIVES.

>> Larry: THAT IS A LOTOF NUMBERS.

YOU SEE, BY OVERWHELMING US WITHNUMBERS, YOU DO TWO THINGS:

FIRST, YOU MAKE US TIRED. ANDSECOND, YOU MAKE US FEEL LIKE

WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THATCONVERSATION.

"ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUTGUNS?

THAT'S EXCITING!"

"NO, WE'RE JUST TALKINGABOUT NUMBERS.

THAT'S EXHAUSTING."

SO, YOU GIVE US EXHAUSTION ANDEXCITEMENT AT THE SAME TIME.

HENCE THE TERM "EXHAUSTMENT."OKAY? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE.

STEP TWO, THE SHIFTEROO.

NOW, THIS IS A VERY TECHNICALTERM.

IT'S WHEN YOU MIX A SHIFT WITH ASWITCHEROO.

>> GUN CONTROL ONLY WORKS FORNORMAL, LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.

IT DOESN'T WORK FOR CRAZIES.

>> NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO: GUNS,NO GUNS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT AREMENTALLY ILL.

>> INSTEAD OF TINKERING WITHTHE SECOND AMENDMENT, I NEVER

HEAR ANYBODY SAY LET'S TINKERWITH THE FIRST.

>> Larry: TINKER WITH THEFIRST?

WE'RE NOT ALPINE TOYMAKERS.

YOU THINK WE'RE GUYS WITH CURLYMUSTACHES TRYING TO FIX A BROKEN

JACK-IN-THE-BOX? WHAT IS THIS"TINKER WITH THE FIRST"?

BUT DID YOU SEE HOW THEY DIDTHAT?

THE SHIFT --YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT GUN

VIOLENCE AND YOU MAKE IT ABOUTMENTAL ILLNESS.

IT'S NOT UNIMPORTANT TO TALKABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS, BUT IT'S

STILL A SHIFT.

THEN THE SWITCHEROO -- YOU SWAPOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT FOR THE

FIRST AMENDMENT. AND EVERBODY ISLIKE "WHAT THE [BLEEP]?"

THE SHIFTEROO IS [BLEEP]IN'BRILLIANT, YOU GUYS.

AND WE'RE STILL NOT HAVING THATHONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT GUNS.

NOW, THE THIRD STEP COMES AFTERTHE PRESIDENT MAKES HIS SOMBER

PLEA TO AMERICA, WHICH,UNFORTUNATELY, HE DOES ALL TOO

OFTEN.

SO IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE FINALLYGOING TO HAVE THE HONEST

CONVERSATION.

BUT NOT SO FAST!

HERE COMES NUMBER THREE,

THE [BLEEP]EROO. RIGHT?YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS.

THIS IS WHEN HATERS [BLEEP] ALLOVER THE PRESIDENT FOR DARING TO

START THE CONVERSATION.

>> I THINK HE'S DISTRACTINGATTENTION FROM

HIS OTHER PROBLEMS.

>> WELL IT WOULD BE NICE IF HESHOWED EQUAL PASSION ABOUT

THE COMPLETE COLLAPSE OF SIX ANDA HALF YEARS OF POLICY

IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

>> WHY HASN'T HE SPOKEN OUTABOUT CHICAGO?

BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IFWHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM,

YOU TALK ABOUT THAT [BLEEP]IN'PROBLEM, RIGHT?

A CONVERSATION ABOUT GUNSINCLUDES GUNS.

A CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTININCLUDES PUTIN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ATOASTMASTER TO KNOW THESE RULES

OF CONVERSATIONAL ENGAGEMENT.

THEN COMES STEP FOUR.

HORRIBLE SUGGESTIONS -- WHICH,INCIDENTALLY, IS THE NAME OF MY

NEW COLOGNE, AVAILABLE ATSPENCER GIFTS AND OTHER FINE

STORES.

(APPLAUSE)IRONICALLY, IT WAS A HORRIBLE

SUGGESTION THAT MADE ME NAME IT"HORRIBLE SUGGESTION."

NOW, THIS HORRIBLE SUGGESTIONSTACTIC WORKS BECAUSE THE

STUPIDITY COMING OUT OF PEOPLE'SMOUTHS IS SO JAW-DROPPING THAT

YOUR MOUTH STAYS OPEN IN HORROR,THUS PREVENTING YOU FROM HAVING

THE CONVERSATION.

>> HAVE FORMER DETECTIVES LIKEBO DIETL AND MARK FURMAN ON

EVERY CAMPUS AND EVERY SCHOOLAND YOUR SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE

SAFER INSTEAD OF THESE GUN-FREEZONES.

>> GET RID OF THESE GUN-FREEZONES.

>> GUN-FREE ZONES ARE CRIMINALPROTECTION AREAS, AND THAT'S

WHAT WE USUALLY SEE.

(AUDIENCE REACTS)

>> Larry: MORE GUNS IS YOURANSWER?!

AGH! BAH!

HEAD HURTS.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THEY'RE SAYINGTHAT IN PLACES WITH FEWER GUNS,

THE ODDS OF GETTING SHOTINCREASE, WHICH I GUESS IS JUST

LIKE HOW THE ODDS OF GETTINGATTACKED BY A SHARK INCREASE IN

PLACES WITH NO SHARKS.

THAT SHARK WAS IN HER LIVINGROOM --

NORMALLY, A SHARK-FREE ZONE!

NOBODY WOULD HAVE SEEN THATCOMING!

AND HAD ALL THE PEOPLE IN THATHOUSE BEEN PACKING THEIR OWN

SHARKS, THAT SHARK WOULD HAVEGONE NEXT DOOR!

ALL RIGHT!

(APPLAUSE)>> Larry: THAT'S WHAT WOULD

HAVE HAPPENED!

I KNOW WE'VE JUST CREATED AHORRIBLE SCENARIO FOR THE

NEIGHBORS, BUT WE'RE JUSTTALKING ABOUT THIS SHARK-FREE

ZONE.

BUT THE HORRIBLE SUGGESTIONSSTEP DOESN'T JUST END WITH THE

MEDIA.

WE ALSO HAVE TO HEAR FROM APRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL.

>> IT'S VERY SAD TO SEE, BUT IRESIST THE NOTION -- AND I HAD

THIS CHALLENGE AS GOVERNOR,BECAUSE WE HAD -- LOOK, STUFF

HAPPENS.

(AUDIENCE REACTS)>> Larry: "STUFF HAPPENS,"

JEB?

I'M SORRY, ARE YOU RUNNING FORPRESIDENT OR JUST LOOKING TO SET

UP A T-SHIRT STAND AT THE BEACH?

(LAUGHTER)I DON'T GET IT!

HOW COULD YOU SAY SOME [BLEEP]LIKE THAT?

YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M SORRY, THAT'SNOT FAIR.

"STUFF HAPPENS" MAY HAVE BEENTAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

LET'S LET HIM FINISH.

>> ...LOOK, STUFF HAPPENS.

THERE'S ALWAYS A CRISIS, AND THEIMPULSE IS ALWAYS TO DO

SOMETHING, AND IT'S NOTNECESSARILY

THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

>> Larry: WOW, JEB EXCLAMATIONPOINT.

I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU WHATYOUR DAD'S BEEN SAYING TO YOUR

BROTHER FOR YEARS -- "I'MDISAPPOINTED IN YOU."

(APPLAUSE)LET ME REVIEW.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THESE

STEPS -- THE EXHAUSTMENT, THESHIFTEROO, THE [BLEEP]EROO, THE

HORRIBLE SUGGESTIONS --OUR BRAINS ARE ABOUT TO EXPLODE.

AND FINALLY, THIS IS HOW THEDOOR ON THE CONVERSATION IS

SHUT.

BY STEP FIVE --TOO SOON.

THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'SDISRESPECTFUL TO TALK ABOUT HOW

TO FIND SOLUTIONS SO CLOSE TO ATRAGEDY.

"WHY DO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUTTHIS NOW?

IT JUST HAPPENED.

CAN'T WE JUST TALK ABOUT THISLATER?"

ALL I KNOW IS, IF WE NEVER HAVETHIS CONVERSATION AND WE KEEP

THINKING IT'S "TOO SOON," WE'LLSTAY IN A CONSTANT STATE OF

TOO LATE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Larry: WELCOME BACK!

THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH BAD STUFFIN THE NEWS LATELY, I THOUGHT I

WOULD GIVE YOU TWO FUN THINGS:

FIRSTLY, THE PAPERBACK VERSIONOF MY BOOK COMES OUT TOMORROW.

"I'D RATHER WE GOT CASINOS ANDOTHER BLACK THOUGHTS."

HAHAHA!

JUST REMEMBERING WHEN I WROTETHIS JUST MAKES ME LAUGH.

I WROTE THIS A FEW YEARS AGO ANDNOW THE PAPERBACK IS OUT, SO

ORDER IT WHEREVER BOOKS AREORDERED IN WHATEVER QUANTITIES

YOU CAN POSSIBLY AFFORD.

AND NEXTLY, WE HAD SO MUCH FUNWITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS A

COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE THOUGHTWE'D SHOW AN ENCORE PERFORMANCE

OF OUR SOUL FOOD SITDOWN, FORTHOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT HAVE

MISSED IT.

ENJOY.

♪♪

>> Larry: SO, BERNIE, YOU'RESURGING IN THE POLLS NOW.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT.

YOU'RE ON THE COVER OF "TIMEMAGAZINE."

>> WHO WOULD HAVE BELIEVED THAT?

>> Larry: EXACTLY.

YOU WERE JUST ON CBS "MORNINGSHOW."

YOU'RE ON FIRE, BERNIE.

AND THIS IS A YEAR THAT PEOPLEARE ANTICIPATING A FIRST.

WE MIGHT HAVE THE FIRST WOMANPRESIDENT. WE ALREADY HAD THE

FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT, BILLCLINTON.

WE JUST HAD THE FIRST MUSLIMPRESENT. I NEVER THOUGHT

I'D SEE THAT.

>> AND THE GUY WASN'T EVEN BORNIN AMERICA.

HOW'S THAT?

>> Larry: CORRECT.

FIRST KENYAN AND MUSLIMPRESIDENT.

WHAT ARE THE ODDS THERE?

DO YOU THINK AMERICA'S READY FORTHE FIRST SOCIALIST PRESIDENT?

>> YES, I DO.

I THINK ONCE WE UNDERSTANDWHAT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM MEANS,

>> Larry: WHAT IS DEMOCRATICSOCIALISM?

>> WHAT IT MEANS IS LEARNINGFROM COUNTRIES LIKE DENMARK,

SWEDEN, FINLAND, NORWAY--

THEY HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE FORALL OF THEIR PEOPLE. THEY HAVE

FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION FOR ALLOF THEIR PEOPLE.

>> Larry: IS THAT THEIR WAY OFKEEPING THEM IN FINLAND?

(LAUGHTER)LET'S KEEP IT 100, BERNIE.

DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE AFRAIDOF THE WORD "SOCIALISM"?

THEY HEAR "SOCIALISM, OHH."LIKE YOU GO, "SOCIALISM,

WHAT, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE MYDEVILED EGG?"

IS THAT WHAT IT MEANS?

I CAN TAKE YOUR EGG.

BY THE WAY, SOCIALISM TASTESFANTASTIC.

>> ALL RIGHT, YOU LIKE THATSOCIALIST EGG?

>> Larry: YOU'RE A VERYINTERESTING CANDIDATE.

WE'VE NEVER HAD A JEWISHPRESIDENT THAT WE KNOW OF,

RIGHT?

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, RIGHT?

(LAUGHTER)YOU MAY BE THE OLDEST PERSON TO

EVER BECOME PRESIDENT.

WHAT ARE YOU, 74?

>> YES.

>> Larry: IF YOU BECAMEPRESIDENT, GOD FORBID SOMETHING

HAPPENS--I'M NOT SAYING THAT ITIS, I'M JUST TRYING TO

KEEP IT 100--WOULD YOU BECOMFORTABLE WITH A

"WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S" SITUATIONTO GET US THROUGH THE REST OF

YOUR ADMINISTRATION?

>> THE GOOD NEWS IS I HAVE BEENBLESSED WITH GOOD HEALTH,

A LOT OF ENDURANCE.

>> Larry: JUST IN CASE,BERNIE, COULD YOU JUST PUT THESE

SUNGLASSES ON JUST FOR A SECOND?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Larry: JUST IN CASE WE HAVETO DO THE "WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S"

THING.

>> HOW'S THAT?

>> Larry: THAT'S AWESOME. ANDJUST KINDA GO LIKE THIS.

>> HOW'S THAT?

>> Larry: THAT'S FANTASTIC.

YOU CAN KEEP THOSE.

YOU MIGHT NEED THEM.HOLD ONTO THEM.

(LAUGHTER)THAT'S AWESOME.

SOMETHING I WANTED TO BRING UP.

THIS IS A HORRIBLE THING.

YOU WERE MAKING A SPEECH ANDPEOPLE FROM BLACK LIVES MATTER

JUST INTERRUPTED YOU -- I WILLBE HONEST WITH YOU, I HATE IT

WHEN BLACK PEOPLE INTERRUPT ME.(LAUGHTER)

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE AGOOD WAY TO GET BLACK PEOPLE

TO FEEL THE BERN?

>> WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THEISSUES--

>> Larry: IT'S SO HORRIBLE THATTHAT THING HAPPENED ANYWAY.

INTERRUPTING PEOPLE IS THERUDEST THING.

GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

MY FAULT.

(LAUGHTER)>> YOU'RE GOING TO INTERRUPT ME.

>> Larry: NO, I WON'T.>> I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT.

>>: Larry: THAT'S VERY RUDE. I'DNEVER DO THAT.

>> YOU -->> Larry: YOU MAY HAVE TO DO

THINGS YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLEWITH.

I'M SORRY.

>> WE'VE GOT TO DO EVERYTHING WECAN TO END INSTITUTIONAL RACISM

IN THIS COUNTRY AND MORE.

WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH REALCRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM --

>> Larry: BY THE WAY, WHEN YOUMAKE THE SPEECH, YOU COULD SAY,

"LOOK, MY PLAN IS FOR CRIMINALJUSTICE REFORM AND TO HELP THE

BLACK COMMUNITY ARE ON FLEEK."

>> "ON FLEEK"?

DO YOU WANT TO TRY IT?

>> ON FLEEK.

>> Larry: I'M TELLING YOU, "MYPLANS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE

REFORM ARE ON FLEEK."

>> ALL RIGHT.

LARRY WILMORE SAYS I SHOULD TELLYOU THAT MY PLANS FOR CRIMINAL

JUSTICE REFORM ARE ON FLEEK ANDTHAT IS IT.

I'M ON MY WAY NOW!

>> Larry: YOUR NUMBERS IN THEBLACK COMMUNITY ARE SURGING,

ALREADY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> Larry: NOW THE GUY MAKINGALL THE NOISE IS DONALD TRUMP.

I DON'T KNOW WHY TRUMP ISWINNING RIGHT NOW

BUT I DO HAVE ONE THEORY.

IF YOU TAKE EVERYTHING ELSEAWAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE

HAS THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS?

>> 5 BILLION BUCKS.

A HAT. YOU'VE SEEN THAT HAT?"MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"?

CORNIEST HAT I'VE EVER SEEN.

BERNIE, I THINK IF YOU GET AHAT, I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO GET

PEOPLE TO HEAR YOUR MESSAGE.

>> I'M OPEN TO THAT.

>> Larry: HERE'S THE THING --A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN AMERICA

RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THINGSPEOPLE CAN'T AGREE ON.

WE'RE IN A SOUL FOOD RESTAURANT,BERNIE. I THINK WE CAN AGREE

ON ONE THING: BLACK-EYED PEASMATTER.

RIGHT?>> THERE YOU GO.

>> Larry: HERE YOU GO, BERNIE.

>> YOU THINK THIS'LL TAKE MEOVER THE TOP?

>> Larry: THAT'S GONNA BRINGAMERICA TOGETHER.

AND LET ME BE CLEAR: I'M NOTTALKING ABOUT THE BLACK EYED

PEAS, 'CAUSE THEY REALLY DON'TMATTER ANYMORE.

I'M TALKING ABOUTACTUAL BLACK-EYED PEAS.

I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THANKS A LOT, BERNIE.>> OKAY, LARRY, THANK YOU.

>> Larry: FEEL THE BERN,EVERYBODY!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)THANKS, BERNIE!

WAY TO KEEP THINGS ON FLEEK.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

I'M HERE WITH MY PANEL, "NIGHTLYSHOW" CONTRIBUTOR, RORY

ALBANESE, "NIGHTLY SHOW"CONTRIBUTOR, MIKE YARD, AND HOST

OF CNN'S "LEGAL VIEW WITHASHLEIGH BANFIELD," ASHLEIGH

BANFIELD.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)AND FOR EVERYONE AT HOME, JOIN

OUR CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW ONTWITTER @NIGHTLYSHOW,

USING THE HASHTAG "TONIGHTLY."SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

SHOOTING IN OREGON,

AND AFTER THE SHOOTING, SEVERALJOURNALISTS AND EVEN THE

LOCAL SHERIFF REFUSED TO NAMETHE SHOOTER BECAUSE IT WOULD

INADVERTENTLY GLORIFY HISACTIONS.

YOU WERE ACTUALLY THERE--WAS ITYESTERDAY OR--

>> YUP, JUST GOT BACK.

>> Larry: DO YOU THINK KEEPINGTHE SHOOTER'S NAME OUT OF THE

PRESS ACTUALLY MAKES ADIFFERENCE?

I PERSONALLY WANT TO KNOW WHODID THESE THINGS.

>> THIS IS A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.

I GET THIS PARTICULAR SHOOTERWANTED THE GLORY HE'D BEEN

STUDYING IN THE OTHER SHOOTERS.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE FIRSTQUESTION WE ALL ASK IS HOW DID

THIS HAPPEN AND WHY, AND WE'RENOT GOING TO FIGURE THAT OUT

UNLESS WE KNOW THE WHOBEFOREHAND AND DIG INTO THE

WHO'S BACKGROUND.

SO I DON'T APPRECIATE A SHERIFFWHO TAKES IT ON HIMSELF TO

WITHHOLD THAT INFORMATION.

I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE MEDIATO DECIDE HOW JUDICIOUSLY TO

TREAT IT AND, IN THAT RESPECT,WE WERE VERY CAREFUL.

WE GAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE DIDNOT OVERGIVE IT.

ONCE AND DONE.

>> HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, THEMEDIA HASN'T BEEN THE BEST AT

THAT. I'M JUST SAYING.

(APPLAUSE)>> NO, AND THAT'S --

>> THERE'S NO, LIKE, SHERIFF OFMEDIA TOWN AND YOU GO APE

(BLEEP) ON THESE STORIES.

>> WHEN COLUMBINE HAPPENED WEWERE ALL GETTING INTO THE HOW

AND WHY THIS COULD POSSIBLYHAPPEN IN AMERICA.

>> Larry: AND THEY WERE MINORS.

>> WE NEEDED TO KNOW WHOTHESE KIDS WERE,

AND THEY WERE SO MIND-BLOWING INWHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY DID

IT, THAT I THINK THAT SORTOF DROVE THE BUS.

AND EVER SINCE THEN THE LEARNINGCURVE HAS BEEN HAPPENING.

>> YOU GUYS DO GO CRAZY.

>> WHICH GUYS?

>> THE MEDIA!>> YOU REPRESENT ALL THE MEDIA.

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR,ASHLEIGH. THEY DO GO CRAZY.

IN AMERICA, YOU HAVE A LOT OFPEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE FAMOUS.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO NOTPUT THE NAME OUT THERE.

SO THE NEXT PERSON KNOWS NOBODYWILL KNOW THAT YOU DID THIS.

(APPLAUSE)>> Larry: IT'S HARD TO TELL

SOMETIMES WHAT THEIR MOTIVATIONSARE. I MEAN, THIS GUY WAS MAKING

PEOPLE NAME WHAT RELIGION THEYWERE AND SHOOTING HIM FOR BEING

CHRISTIAN.

>> HE'S JUST THINKING OFSOMETHING [BLEEP] TO SAY.

>> I THINK THAT'S IT. YOU'RESPOT ON.

>> HE ASKED WHAT RELIGION AREYOU, AND THEN HE POPPED 'EM,

AND THEN HE DIDN'T--HE WASSHOOTING EVERYBODY.

HIS RELIGION WAS CRAZY, THAT'SWHAT IT WAS.

>> I AGREE.

(APPLAUSE)>> HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO

SAY, I'M CRAZY!

>> IT FEELS LIKE THE MEDIASHOULD DO ONE THING, WHICH IS

EVERY TIME ONE OF THESETHINGS HAPPENS, THE MEDIA SHOULD

ASSOCIATE THE NEGATIVE ATTRIBUTETO THE PERSON, JUST MAKE IT UP.

LOOK, ONE THING FOR SURE, HE HADA SMALL PENIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I

MEAN? THAT WAY,

PEOPLE ARE LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT,I MIGHT NOT WANT THAT FAME."

>> THIS GUY SAID HE WAS AVIRGIN.

I'M LIKE, DUDE, THAT'S THENOTORIETY YOU WERE LOOKING FOR?

>> OR YOU CAN JUST SAY HIS NAMEONCE AND AFTER THAT CALL HIM THE

MOTHER(BLEEP) LIKE I DO WITHBILL COSBY.

>> I WILL LOOK INTO THAT.

>> Larry: I THINK AMERICAWOULD EXCUSE YOU IF YOU SAID,

LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS MOTHER(BLEEP).

>> I FEEL BAD ABOUT THE LIVEBLEEP GUY AT CNN.

>> IT'S A F-BOMB FACTORY OVERTHERE.

>> Larry: DO YOU THINK THEPUBLIC IS BECOMING TOO NUMB?

>> I'M NOT SURE IF NUMB IS THERIGHT WORD.

I THINK IT'S "SATURATED" OR"SATURATED QUICKLY" BECAUSE AS

THE PRESIDENT JUST SAID, THIS ISROUTINE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A GOOD THINGTHAT IT'S ROUTINE BUT IT'S

BECOMING ROUTINE FOR EVERYBODY.

WE KNOW THE DRILL.

I HATE TO SAY THIS, WHEN IARRIVED, MEDIA VILLAGE WAS SET

UP AND ROBUST.

A DAY LATER I WAS THE LAST LIVESHOT IN ONE LOCATION.

>> Larry: IT'S LIKE NOBODYCARED ANYMORE.

>> IT'S NOT THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY'RE SATURATED, EXHAUSTED,LIKE YOU SAID.

>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST DONE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'VE SAIDIT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN:

AFTER SANDY HOOK, I THOUGHT GUNCONTROL WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN

SERIOUSLY BECAUSE LITTLE WHITEKIDS GOT SHOT AND IN AMERICA

ANYTIME SOMETHING HAPPENS TOLITTLE WHITE KIDS, OH (BLEEP).

>> Larry: LET'S BE FAIR, ITWASN'T JUST LITTLE WHITE KIDS.

>> YEAH, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW,

IF THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHINGAFTER SANDY HOOK, THEN YOU

KNOW, IT'S JUST NEVER GONNAHAPPEN.

>> Larry: IT'S TERRIBLE.>> WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT

THIS LAST WEEK WITH RACISM.IT'S LIKE WE'RE

STILL HAVING TO CONVINCE PEOPLETHESE THINGS ARE REAL.

YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT FIXINGTHEM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONVINCE

THEM THEY'RE PROBLEMS.

THAT PUTS YOU IN A DIFFICULTPOSITION WHERE YOU SAY, "I JUST

WANT THE STAY IN MY BUBBLE."

>> I ALWAYS FIND IT AMAZING WHENIT COMES TO GUN CONTROL, THE

SECOND AMENDMENT IS UNASSAILABLETO THOSE WHO SUPPORT GUN RIGHTS.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUTTERROR, THE FOURTH AMENDMENT IS

APPARENTLY OPEN SEASON ANDSEARCH AND SEIZURE.

"WE GOTTA FIGHT THESETERRORISTS.

I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO YOURPHONE CALLS AND I'M GONNA

TEAR APART THE FOURTH AMENDMENTFOR THAT."

>> IRONICALLY, THE FOURTHAMENDMENT GOES INTO THE

CROSSHAIRS OF THIS SEGMENT.

>> NICELY PUT.

>> Larry: THAT'S KIND OF MYJOB.

>> WHAT'S AMAZING IS EVERYONETHINKS THAT THE CHANGES ARE

GOING TO TAKE GUNS AWAY. LIKE,YOU COULD SUPPORT THE SECOND

AMENDMENT.

I SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENTBUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T

HAVE LAWS.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S EASIER TOGET A GUN THAN A SCUBA DIVING

LICENSE.

THERE IS NO TRAINING, YOU KNOW.

IF YOU GO SKY DIVING, YOU KNOW,THEY STRAP YOU TO AN INSTRUCTOR,

THROW YOU OFF THE PLANE. MAYBETHEY DO THAT WITH HUNTING, YOU

GO HUNTING AND GET STRAPPED TO AHUNTER'S BACK.

YOU LEARN.

AND THEN MAYBE THAT NIGHT AROUNDTHE CAMPFIRE YOU HAVE A COZY

NIGHT.

>> Larry: DO YOU KNOW HOWDEBILITATING THAT WOULD BE FOR

SOMEONE LIKE ELMER FUDD?

(LAUGHTER)>> YOU'RE KILLING A DEER WITH A

GIANT GUN. MIGHT AS WELL HAVE AGUY ON YOUR BACK MAKE IT A

LITTLE HARDER, YOU KNOW WHAT IMEAN? I'M JUST SAYING.

>> I'M GETTING A VISUAL.

I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

>> WELL, YOU'RE NOT INVITED TOTHE HUNTING TRIP ANYMORE.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: IT'S EVEN HARD TO

TALK ABOUT THIS.

WILL WE EVER HAVE THISCONVERSATION? WHO KNOWS?

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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