March 10, 2014 - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

  • 03/10/2014

Atheists protest a cross displayed at the 9/11 memorial, a Kentucky church group hosts a gun giveaway, and Neil deGrasse Tyson discusses his Fox series, "Cosmos."

>> Stephen: TONIGHT CHURCHATTENDANCE HAS FALLEN, I SAY

WAIT THREE DAYS AND IT WILLRISE AGAIN, AND MY GUEST

NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON DIRECTS THEHAYDEN PLANETARIUM AND IS HOST

OF THE SCIENCE SERIES COSMOS,I'LL REMIND HIM THAT IN THIS

STUDIO THE UNIVERSE REVOLVESAROUND ME.

DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIMESTARTED THIS WEEKEND AND I

FINALLY WON THE FOUR MONTHBATTLE WITH OUR OVEN CLOCK.

THIS IS THE "THE COLBERTREPORT."

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: WELCOME TO THE

REPORT, GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

>> STEPHEN, STEPHEN,STEPHEN!, STEPHEN, STEPHEN,

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN STEPHEN!

>> Stephen: WELCOME TO THEREPORT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US ONTHIS LOVELY MONDAY NIGHT, IN

EARLY MARCH.

FOLKS, SOME OF YOU OUT THEREMAY NOT KNOW IT YOU MAY NOT

KNOW THIS, FOLKS.

I KNOW SOME YOU KNOW THISBUT AS A PROUD CATHOLIC, I

HAVE NEVER REALLY CARED MUCHFOR ATHEISTS.

(LAUGHTER)IF YOU ARE TURNING YOUR BACK

ON GOD'S CHRISTIANTEACHINGS, THEN AT LEAST

HAVE THE COURAGE TO CALLYOURSELF A LUTHERAN.

BUT FOLKS, THE LATEST STUNTBY THESE NONBELIEVERS IS

TRULY NONBELIEVABLE.

>> A GROUP CALLED AMERICANATHEISTS IS FIGHTING TO

REMOVE A CROSS ONDISPLAY AT THE

SOON TO OPEN 9/11 MEMORIALMUSEUM SAYING THE SIGHT OF

IT CAUSES QUOTE MENTALANGUISH.

>> Stephen: YES, THIS CROSSCAUSES MENTAL ANGUISH FOR

ATHEISTS.

WHO WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE ACARE-FREE VISIT TO THE 9/11

MUSEUM.

NOW FOLKS-- (APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: FOLKS THISATHEIST LAWSUIT OFFENDS ME

AND NOT JUST AS A CHRISTIANBUT AS A LOVER OF GOOD

PUBLIC RELATIONS.

COME ON, ATHEISTS, YOU'REPROTESTING A CROSS IN THE

9/11 MUSEUM?

I KNOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE GODCAN HEAR YOU, BUT YOU

REALIZE THE REST OF US CAN,RIGHT?

(LAUGHTER)BUT, BUT FOLKS, PRESIDENT OF

AMERICAN ATHEISTS DAVIDSILVERMAN JUST CANNOT LET

THIS ONE GO.

>> PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDINGTHE FACT THAT THE CROSS IS

CHRISTIAN, THAT IT WASINSTALLED IN A RELIGIOUS

SERVICE AND ON CONSECRATEDGROUND WHICH MAKES IT A

SHRINE ON PUBLIC LAND IN AWORLD TRADE CENTER. IT'S A

CHRISTIAN CROSS.

>> Stephen: YES, THOSE IBEAMS FOUND IN THE WRECKAGE

CAN ONLY BE A CHRISTIANCROSS, WHAT OTHER POSSIBLE

EXPLANATION COULD THERE BEFROM A BUILDING MADE OF

RIGHT ANGLES TO LEAVESOMETHING LIKE THAT BEHIND?

APPARENTLY, APPARENTLYATHEISTS WANT TO HONOR LACK

OF BELIEF AT GROUND ZERO.

THOUGH I PERSONALLY THINK THEENTIRE TRAGEDY ALREADY

SUGGESTS THAT RELIGIOUSFERVOR SOMETIMES HAS A

DOWNSIDE.

JIM?

>> THEY SAY THAT IF THISCROSS IS GOING TO STAND IF A

MUSEUM THEY WANT TO HAVE APLAQUE THAT HONORS ALL OF

THE ATHEISTS WHO DIED ON9/11 AS WELL.

>> Stephen: LET ME GET THISSTRAIGHT, ATHEISTS, YOU SAY

THE ONLY RESPONSE NECESSARYFOR NONBELIEVERS IN THE FACE

OF THE NUMINOUS IS TOPOINT OUT THE AWESOME GRANDEUR

OF THE UNIVERSE,WITNESS THE SPLENDER OF

PIN-WHEELING GALAXIES,TO WONDER AT THE INTRICATE

TAPESTRY OF LIFE AND TIMEAND SAY THERE IT IS, AND HERE

WE ARE, WE NEED NO GOD,BUT A PLAQUE WOULD BE NICE?

THE 9/11 CROSS IS JUST THELATEST SIGN THAT AMERICA IS

GOING TO THE BOW WOWS.

GAY MARRIAGE IS LEGAL IN 17STATES.

MEDICAL OR RECREATIONALMARIJUANA IS LEGAL IN 20

STATES.

AND-- IN COLORADO YOU CANNOW LEGALLY MARRY YOUR BONG.

YOU MAY NOW TOKE THE BRIDE.

AND FOLKS, I THINK I KNOWWHY.

BECAUSE ACCORDING TO ARECENT STUDY OF AMERICAN

CHURCHES A QUARTER OF ALLCONGREGATIONS HAD FEWER THAN

50 PEOPLE IN THE PEWS,LEADING TO THE NEW CHILDHOOD

GAME, HERE'S THE CHURCH,HERE'S THE STEEPLE, OPEN THE

DOORS, THERE'S LIKE SIXPEOPLE IN THERE AT MOST.

THAT'S NOT A LOT.

AND IT'S PARTICULARLY BADAMONG MEN.

ACCORDING TO A RECENT ABC, POLL WHILE 45% OF

AMERICAN WOMEN GO TO CHURCHEACH WEEK, ONLY 34% OF MEN

DO.

LUCKILY, THERE'S A WAY TOBRING MEN BACK INTO THE FOLD

AND IT BRINGS US TOTONIGHT'S WORD.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)PEW, PEW, PEW.

FOLKS, AMERICA IS NO LESS OFA CHRISTIAN NATION THAN IT'S

EVER BEEN, BUT UNFORTUNATELYTHE OLD METHODS OF PUTTING

BUTTS IN THE WOOD SEATSDOESN'T WORK.

JUST ASK KENTUCKY BAPTISTCHUCK McALISTER

WHO SAID THE DAY OF HANGINGA BANNER IN FRONT OF YOUR

CHURCH AND SAYING YOU AREHAVING A REVIVAL AND

EXPECTING THE COMMUNITY TOSHOW UP IS OVER.

EXACTLY.

A BANNER DOESN'T CUT IT ANYMORE.

YOU'VE GOT TO AT LEAST TRY AJESUS BLOWY MAN.

(APPLAUSE)McALISTER HAS A MUCH BETTER

WAY TO GET MEN INTO CHURCH.

>> HOST OF TELEVISION SHOWVENTURE BOUND OUTDOORS.

WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE'REGOING TO BE IN THE AREA AT

BAPTIST CHURCH ON THURSDAYMARCH 6th.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

FREE ADMISSION, FREE STEAKDINNER AND GET THIS, 25 GUNS.

>> Stephen: 25 GUNS.

(APPLAUSE)COME ON!

NO OTHER RELIGION OUT THEREIS GOING TO BE ABLE TO

COMPETE WITH FREE STEAKS ANDGUNS.

WHAT ARE THE HINDUS GOINGTO OFFER, A BOWL OF

CHICKPEAS AND THE KNOWLEDGETHAT IN A PREVIOUS LIFE YOU

WERE A BOWL OF CHICKPEAS?

(LAUGHTER)YOU SEE, FOLKS, PEOPLE USED

TO GO TO CHURCH FOR A LOT OFREASONS.

THEY WOULD GO FOR A SENSE OFCOMMUNITY, UPHOLDING

TRADITION, FINDING ANSWERSTO LIFE'S BIGGEST QUESTIONS.

BUT THESE DAYS ALL OF THAT,ALL OF THAT IS JUST

INTANGIBLE.

AND THESE DAYS PEOPLE WANTSOMETHING MORE.

PLUS-- (LAUGHTER)

GIVING OUT FREE GUNS ISCONSISTENT WITH CHRIST'S

MESSAGE.

AS McALISTER REMINDED US,QUOTE, JESUS WAS PRETTY

HANDY WITH THE WHIP WHEN HERAN THE MONEY CHANGERS OUT

OF THE TEMPLE.

YES, YES, REMEMBER, JESUSUSES A WHIP IN THAT GOSPEL

STORY.

BUT FOLKS-- PEOPLE, PEOPLEIN KENTUCKY DON'T USE WHIPS.

NO, PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY, THEYUSE GUNS.

THEY LOVE GUNS.

AS McALISTER KNOWS THAT IFYOU WANT TO REACH THEM, YOU

NEED TO SPEAK GUN.

OR AS McALISTER PUTS IT,HUNTING IS HUGE IN KENTUCKY

SO WE GET IN THERE AND BURPAND SCRATCH AND TALK ABOUT

THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

AND THAT STUFF.

YES.

YOU GOT THE BURP AND SCRATCHABOUT GOD LIKE THE

WELL-KNOWN EVANGELIST LARRYTHE CABLE SAINT.

(LAUGHTER)BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE?

FOLKS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT ELSEGUYS JUST LOVE?

YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS LOVEOTHER THAN STEAKS AND GUNS?

GUYS LOVE STRIPPERS ANDUNLIMITED SHRIMP.

I SAY FILL IN THE BAPTISMALFONT WITH COCKTAIL SAUCE,

SWAP OUT THAT GIANT CROSSFOR A BRASS POLE AND SWITCH

OUT THAT COLLECTION BASKETFOR A COLLECTION G STRING.

NOW THIS-- THIS MIGHT NOT-- (APPLAUSE)

THE TRUTH IS THIS MIGHT NOTBE ALL KOSHER WITH THE BIBLE

TEACHINGS.

BY THE WAY, JEWS, YOU KNOWWHAT WOULD REALLY GET GUYS

INTO THE SYNAGOGUE, GRILLEDPORK CHOPS.

THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU GOT TOBRING MEN HOME TO JESUS BY

ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

EVEN IF THAT MEANS WEAPONS.

REMEMBER, JESUS SAID ALLTHOSE WHO TAKE UP THE SWORD

SHALL PERISH BY THE SWORD.

AND IF CHURCHES GIVE OUTENOUGH WEAPONS, WE CAN BRING

A LOT OF PEOPLE HOME TOJESUS FOR GOOD.

AND THAT'S THE WORD.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

WAIT THREE DAYS AND IT WILLRISE AGAIN, AND MY GUEST

WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY, MYGUEST TONIGHT IS THE HOST OF

COSMOS, VIEWED IN 45LANGUAGES, 171 COUNTRIES BUT

ONLY ONE UNIVERSE, PLEASEWELCOME NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON.

NEIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN,THANKS FOR COMING BACK.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WELL, WELL, WELL.

>> I LOVE WHAT YOU HAVE DONEWITH THE PLACE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THIS IS A LIVE FEED FROMTHE UNIVERSE.

>> THIS IS FROM THE COSMOSRIGHT NOW.

>> EVERY SIGHT LINE WE HAVEIS LIVE FEED FROM THE

UNIVERSE.

>> Stephen: DON'T BLOW MYMIND YET, OKAY.

WE HAVE THE WHOLE SHOW TO DOIT HERE.

YOU CAN'T BLOW MY MIND INTHE FIRST TEN SECONDS, ALL

RIGHT?

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOUAGAIN.

>> THANK YOU, IT'S BEENAWHILE.

>> Stephen: THIS IS YOURTENTH TIME ON THE SHOW.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)NO GUEST HAS BEEN ON AS MANY

TIMES.

I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE AGLOBAL SUPERSTAR, ALL RIGHT.

I GET MY BEAK WET ON THISONE, YOU OWE ME A LITTLE

SOMETHING ON THIS ONE.

NOW FOR THE FEW PEOPLE DON'TKNOW AROUND THE GLOBE

WATCHING RIGHT NOW, DIRECTOROF THE HAYDEN PLANETARIUM,

MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY INNEW YORK.

WROTE TEN BOOK, RECEIVED THENASA DISTINGUISHED PUBLIC

SERVICE MEDAL AND HOST OFCOSMOS, SPACE TIME ODYSSEY

WHICH PREMIERED LAST NIGHTON FOX.

>> I LIKE THAT.

>> Stephen: THIS IS SPACETIME, SPACE TIME RIGHT HERE.

(APPLAUSE)NOW WE ALL WATCHED SHOW WHEN

WE WERE KIDS WITH CARL SAGAN,WHAT IS IT LIKE TO STEP INTO

HIS TURTLENECK?

(LAUGHTER)YOU KNEW SAGAN.

>> I HAVE A LITTLE ONE HERE,A LITTLE HOMAGE.

>> Stephen: AMERICANS NEVERGOT TO SEE SAGAN'S NECK.

WE NEVER KNEW WHAT IT LOOKEDLIKE.

WHAT IS IT LIKE STEPPINGINTO HIS SHOE, DID YOU KNOW

HIM?

>> WE MET WHEN I WAS IN HIGHSCHOOL.

I WAS A 17-YEAR-OLD KID,BORN IN THE BRONX WHERE I'M

FROM.

AND I-- BRONX IN THE HOUSE.

SO I, MY APPLICATION TOCOLLEGES WERE DRIPPING WITH

THE UNIVERSE BECAUSE I HADKNOWN I HAD WANTED TO

DO THIS SINCE I WAS NINE, I HADAN ANSWER FOR ALL THOSE

ADULTS THAT ASK THEANNOYING QUESTION, WHAT DO

YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU GROWUP.

BY THE TIME I WAS 11 I SAIDASTROPHYSICIST AND THEY

WOULD JUST WALK AWAY.

THEY QUICKLY ENDED THATCONVERSATION.

SO UNKNOWN TO ME, THEADMISSIONS OFFICE AT CORNELL

FORWARDED MY APPLICATION TOCARL SAGAN FOR HIM TO REACT.

AND HE THEN SENT ME APERSONAL LETTER, THERE IT

WAS, CARL-- HE HAD ALREADYBEEN ON THE TONIGHT SHOW,

BEST SELLING BOOKS, ALREADYFAMOUS AND HE INVITED ME

TO CORNELL TO HELP ME DECIDEWHETHER I WOULD CHOOSE

CORNELL FOR MY COLLEGE.

(APPLAUSE)THAT'S NOT EVEN IT.

I WENT UP, I WENT TO CORNELL,HE GREETED ME OUTSIDE.

AND WE WENT INTO HIS OFFICE,HE REACHED BACK, DIDN'T EVEN

LOOK, PULLED OUT ONE OF HISBOOKS, SIGNED IT TO ME, I

STILL HAVE THAT BOOK.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WASJUST COOL.

HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO LOOKWHICH BOOK HE WAS PULLING

OUT AND HE WROTE THE BOOK,RIGHT.

SO, SO THEN HE TOOK ME BACKTO THE CORNELL, ITHACA, NEW

YORK, STARTED SNOWING AS ITALWAYS DOES.

>> Stephen: ALL THROUGHSUMMER.

>> AND HE WAS WORRIED THATTHE BUS WOULDN'T GET THROUGH

AND HE WROTE DOWN HIS HOMEPHONE NUMBER.

HE SAID IF THE BUS DOESN'TCOME THROUGH, CALL ME.

SPEND THE NIGHT WITH MYFAMILY, LEAVE TOMORROW.

AND I SAID WHO AM I TO HIM.

AND SO I REALIZED, THIS ISAN EXTRAORDINARY BEHAVIOR

FOR SOMEONE WHO IS FAMOUS.

AND I SAID IF I AM EVERREMOTELY THAT FAMOUS

I'M GOING TO TREAT STUDENTSTHE WAY HE TREATED ME SO IT

AFFECTED ME THE REST OF MYLIFE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: I JUST WANT TO

SAY FOR THE RECORD, IF THEREANY STUDENTS OUT THERE WHO

GET CAUGHT IN A SNOWSTORM,YOU MAY NOT STAY WITH ME.

(LAUGHTER)LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT COSMOS.

>> THE COSMIC CALENDARBEGINS ON JANUARY 1st, WITH

THE BIRTH OF OUR UNIVERSE.

DID CONTAINS EVERYTHINGTHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN

UP TO NOW, WHICH ON THISCALENDAR IS MIDNIGHT

DECEMBER 31st.

ON THIS SCALE, EVERY MONTHREPRESENTS ABOUT A BILLION

YEARS.

EVERY DAY, REPRESENTS NEARLY40 MILLION YEARS.

LET'S GO BACK AS FAR AS WECAN TO THE VERY FIRST MOMENT

IN THE UNIVERSE.

JANUARY 1st.

THE BIG BANG.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)IT'S AS FAR BACK AS WE CAN

SEE IN TIME.

FOR NOW.

>> Stephen: NOW HOW MUCHSUNSCREEN DID YOU HAVE TO

PUT ON BEFORE THEY EXPLODED.

>> THE FLAME PROOF SUIT.

>> Stephen: HERE'S WHAT BUGSME, OKAY, YOU SAY IN THAT

LITTLE THING THAT ALL OFHUMAN HISTORY IS THE LAST 14

SECONDS.

>> ALL WRITTEN HUMANHISTORY.

>> Stephen: IN THE LAST 14SECONDS OF THE CALENDAR YEAR,

HOW DO WE KNOW THAT ANYTHINGHAPPENED BEFORE THOSE 14

SECONDS IF IT WASN'T WRITTENDOWN?

AREN'T YOU SCIENTISTS JUSTGUESSING ALL THAT STUFF?

LIKE THE BIG BANG, LIKE ALLOF THE REST OF THAT COSMIC

CALENDAR YEAR, ISN'T THATKIND OF JUST A

GUESSTIMICATION?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: NO?

>> WE NEED WRITTEN HISTORYTO SEE WHO LIVES AND WHAT

THEY DID AS INDIVIDUALS ANDWHO WAS KING AND QUEEN

AND -->> HOW MUCH GRAIN THERE WAS.

>> THAT IS WHAT THEIRWRITTEN STUFF, WE DON'T NEED

THE WRITTEN STUFF TO TELL USABOUT THE GEOLOGY OR ASTRO

PHYSICS, IT'S JUST TO GETHUMAN ACTIVITIES ON THE MAP.

OTHERWISE, LEAVE IT OUT.

I WILL TELL YOU-- WHERE THERIVERS FLOWED, WHERE THE

SEDIMENTS WERE LAID.

WHERE THE-- WE GOT THAT.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)I'M JUST SAYING.

>> Stephen: IN LAST NIGHT'SSHOW, I'M-- YOU ALSO TOOK A

COUPLE OF POTSHOTS AT MYCATHOLIC CHURCH.

YOU MADE THE SLANDEROUSACCUSATION THAT THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH WAS RESPONSIBLE FORTHE DEATH OF SCIENTISTS AN

PEOPLE WITHOUT DID NOT AGREEWITH THE CHURCH WHERE.

DID YOU GET THESEACCUSATIONS OTHER THAN FROM

HISTORY BOOKS?

>> IN FACT, THE PEOPLE WHOPUT GEEDONEO BRUNO TO DEATH

WHO WAS OUR HERO OF THATSTORY, WAS NOT THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH T WAS THE ROMANAUTHORITIES AND WE SAY THAT.

>> OH REALLY.

>> YEAH.

SO-- WITH.

>> SO THE CATHOLIC CHURCHHAS BEEN GOOD FOR SCIENCE.

I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY.

>> TECHNICALLY THEIR HANDSARE CLEAN OF HIS DEATH

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T BURN HIMAT THE STAKE, THE ROMAN

AUTHORITIES BURNED HIM ATTHE STAKE, TECHNICALLY

BUT THEY WERE EXECUTINGTHE-- I MEAN THAT WAS THE

PUNISHMENT.

>> Stephen: THEY WERE JUSTOBEYING ORDERS.

>> SO, SO THE POINT IS WEMADE IT CLEAR, IT WAS THE

INQUISITION THAT WASRESPONSIBLE HERE.

SO THAT'S A PIECE OF WHATWAS THEN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

AND IT IS A PIECE THAT IS NOLONGER.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

SO YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OFBEING BURNED AT THE STAKE

FOR THIS SHOW.

>> NO.

>> Stephen: SO IF YOU HAVETHE COURAGE STICK AROUND

BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOME KINDLINGTO PUT AT YOUR FEET

WHEN WE COME BACK.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH

>> Stephen: WE'RE BACK WITHNEIL DEGRASSE TYSON TALKING

ABOUT THE NEW TELEVISIONSHOW COSMOS.

ALL RIGHT, WHY DID YOU, NEIL,THE SHOW WAS GREAT, I REALLY

ENJOYED IT.

AND SO DO MY KIDS, BUT WHYDID YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS

SHOW?

WE ALREADY HAD ONE, YOU KNOW,34 YEARS AGO.

WHY DO IT AGAIN?

HAS SCIENCE REALLY CHANGEDALL THAT MUCH?

>> NO, THE TIME HAD COME.

IT WAS-- SO NOT ONLY HASSCIENCE SINCE THEN WE

DISCOVERED A THOUSAND EXOPLANETS, THE HIGGS BOSON, WE

HAVE DISCOVERED THE-- WEHAVE STRONG IDEAS THAT A

MULTIVERSE EXISTS.

I MEAN THE LIST GOES ON ANDON.

>> Stephen: MULTIVERSE?

>> A MULTIVERSE.

WELL, IT MAY NOT BE JUST ONEUNIVERSE.

THERE MAY BE MANY UNIVERSES.

BUT THERE WASN'T -->> DOESN'T SCIENCE DEPEND ON

EXPERIMENTATION.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO -->> BRING IN THE OTHER NEIL

DEGRASSE TYSON -->> IT IS A THEORETICAL

FRONTIER AT THIS POINT BUT ANINTRIGUING ONE WITH

COMPELLING ARGUMENTS FOR WHY ITWOULD BE SO.

>> YOU GET PEOPLE EXCITEDABOUT SCIENCE.

>> WE ALSO DISCOVERED DARKENERGY.

THIS HAS BEEN A SERIOUSPRESSURE IN THE VACUUM OF

SPACE PUSHING AGAINST THEWISHES OF THE COLLECTIVE

GRAVITY OF ALL THE GALAXIESMAKING EXPANDING UNIVERSE

ACCELERATE.

ALL IN THE LAST 34 YEARS.

>> HERE IS WHAT I DON'TLIKE.

I SAW YOU ON THE CNN TALKINGABOUT HOW IMPORTANT SCIENCE

IS.

>> YEAH.

>> AND THAT SCIENCE SAYSTHAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BOTH

SIDES OF EVERY DEBATE.

YOU KNOW.

LIKE WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLEWHO SAY THE EARTH IS ROUND

AND BRING ON FLAT EARTHERSTOO.

DON'T YOU WANT IT TO BE FAIRAND BALANCED.

>> THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OFEVERYONE'S TIME.

>> WHY.

>> ONCE SCIENCE HAS BEENESTABLISHED, ONCE A

SCIENTIFIC TRUTH EMERGESFROM A CONSENSUS OF

EXPERIMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS,IT IS THE WAY OF THE WORLD.

>> SO SAY YOU.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE, BUT ISTHE SCIENCE IN ON SCIENCE?

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHENDIFFERENT EXPERIMENTS GIVE

YOU THE SAME RESULTS, IT ISNO LONGER SUBJECT TO YOUR

OPINION.

THAT'S THE GOOD THING ABOUTIT.

IT'S TRUE, WHETHER OR NOTYOU BELIEVE IN IT, THAT'S

WHY IT WORKS(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: SO IF MY SIDE OFTHE ARGUMENT, LET'S JUST SAY

FOR THE SAKE OF THE ARGUMENTTHAT I BELIEVED THE

WORLD WAS FLAT AND YOUBELIEVE THE WORLD IS ROUND.

DON'T I DESERVE MORE TIMEFOR MY ARGUMENT BECAUSE MINE

IS A MUCH HARDER CASE TOMAKE?

>> YOU GET TO SAY THE WORLDIS FLAT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A

COUNTRY THAT GUARANTEES YOURFREE SPEECH.

BUT IT'S NOT A COUNTRY THATGUARANTEES THAT ANYTHING YOU

SAY IS CORRECT.

>> I'M JUST SAYING.

>> Stephen: THAT IS SUCH ALIBRA THING TO SAY.

(LAUGHTER)YOU ARE A LIBRA, AREN'T

YOU.

>> I AM LIBRA.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAVESURPRISED CARL SAGAN MOST

ABOUT WHAT HAS CHANGED INOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE

UNIVERSE SINCE HIS DEATH INTHIS.

>> 1996.

I THINK WHAT WOULD SURPRISEHIM THE MOST IS THAT WE

STILL HAVE TO ARGUE THATSCIENCE IS SOMETHING

IMPORTANT IN SOCIETY.

THAT IS WHAT WOULD SURPRISEHIM THE MOST.

(APPLAUSE)FOR STARTERS.

SCIENTIFICALLY, I THINK HEWOULD FIND THE IDEA OF THE

MULTIVERSE PRETTY COOL.

>> Stephen: THE IDEA OF THEMULTIVERSE IS COOL BUT SO IS

THE IDEA OF THEFORCE.

NEIL, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THENEXT EPISODE.

>> EVERY WEEK.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU FORJOINING ME.

NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON.

THE COSMOS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> THAT'S IT FOR THE REPORT,EVERYBODY, GOOD NIGHT!

>> THAT'S IT FOR THE REPORT,EVERYBODY, GOOD NIGHT!

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