July 23, 2015 - Racial Weather & Sandra Bland's Arrest

  • 07/23/2015

Mike Yard learns about Manhattan's former slave trade, and Larry discusses the controversial arrest of Sandra Bland with Jordan Carlos, Mark DeMayo and Christina Greer.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Larry: WELCOME TO THE "THE

NIGHTLY SHOW."

MAN, WE GOT A GOOD CROWDTONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MAN, ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE STOODUP.

YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA THE LOVEIN THIS AUDIENCE.

(LAUGHTER)AMAZING.

YOU GUYS ARE SUCH A GREATAUDIENCE HERE.

I LOVE THIS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)NO, IT'S GREAT.

AS WE ALL KNOW, AMERICAN RACERELATIONS HAVE BEEN PRETTY

TUMULTUOUS LATELY.

OUR WEEKLY RACIAL INCIDENTS ARESTARTING TO FEEL SOMETHING LIKE

AN UNLIMITED APPETIZER DEAL AT ACHAIN RESTAURANT: GROTESQUE,

NAUSEATING, AND NEVER-ENDING.

(LAUGHTER)WITH THE RACIAL CLIMATE CHANGING

SO RAPIDLY, WE THOUGHT IT WOULDBE HELPFUL TO GO TO OUR IN-HOUSE

RACIAL METEOROLOGIST, GUSTYHAIL.

(LAUGHTER)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

HOW'S IT GOING, GUSTY?

>> THANKS, LARRY.

WE'RE DEALING WITH PLENTY OFRACIAL ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE

PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE.

RIGHT?

THINGS ARE HEATING UP, LARRY.

(LAUGHTER)SO IT'S OKAY TO TAKE OFF THAT

HOODIE, FOLKS.

SERIOUSLY, TAKE IT OFF, BECAUSETHEY WILL SHOOT YOU.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: WHAT'S RACIAL

ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE?

>> WELL, FOR INSTANCE, DONALDTRUMP CALLING --

>> Larry: OTHER WAY.

THE OTHER DIRECTION.

(LAUGHTER)>> IT'S A NEW MAP.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: OKAY.

DONALD TRUMP CALLING MEXICANSRAPISTS

HAS REALLY HEATED THINGS UP OUTWEST AND NEAR THE BORDER STATES.

AND THE WHOLE SOUTH IS BASICALLYA GIANT RACIAL CYCLONE.

I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE HAD BEENHOPING THAT WINDS OF CHANGE

WOULD SWEEP THROUGH THAT REGIONAND CLEAR THINGS UP, BUT THAT

JUST HASN'T HAPPENED.

>> Larry: OKAY.

GUSTY -- WAIT.

IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON UPIN MAINE?

>> MAINE IS PRETTY STABLE, BUTTHAT'S ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO

BLACK PEOPLE IN MAINE AT THEMOMENT.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

(LAUGHTER)>> YOU CAN SEE --

Larry: UH-HUH.

CLEAR SKIES AT THE MOMENT.

WE'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT THEWU-TANG CLAN IS PERFORMING IN

PORTLAND NEXT MONTH.

(LAUGHTER)AT WHICH POINT A PRESSURIZED

FRONT COULD COME FROM THE SOUTHAND BLOW AND UP CAUSE TROUBLE.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: ABSOLUTELY.

SOUNDS RIGHT.

I SEE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR BUTT --YEP, TEXAS IS ON FIRE.

WHAT'S GOING ON THERE?

>> WELL, LARRY, THERE'S A FECALFRONT SWIRLING RIGHT OUTSIDE OF

HOUSTON.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: FECAL FRONT?

ARE YOU TELLING ME THERE'S A[ BLEEP ] STORM BREWING IN

TEXAS?

(LAUGHTER).

>> YOU SAID IT, LARRY.

PUT TOGETHER THAT MANYMINORITIES, COWBOYS, AND

PERMISSIVE GUN LAWS, AND YOU CANGUARANTEE SOME ATMOSPHERIC

TROUBLE.

>> Larry: GOT IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANKS, GUSTY.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)NOW, LOOK, THIS IS GOING TO BE

TOUGH, BUT WE REALLY DO WANT TOFOCUS ON TEXAS -- SPECIFICALLY

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SANDRABLAND INCIDENT.

IT'S GOTTEN SO MANY PEOPLETALKING BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT

REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

A WOMAN WAS PULLED OVER FOR ATRAFFIC STOP, AND A FEW DAYS

APPARENTLY COMMITS SUICIDE IN AJAIL CELL.

THERE'S STILL A LOT TO UNPACK INTHIS STORY.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE DASHCAMVIDEO THAT WAS RELEASED.

>> YOU OKAY?

I'M WAITING ON YOU.

THIS IS YOUR JOB.

WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

YOU SEEM VERY IRRITATED.

>> I AM.

I REALLY AM, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKETHIS IS CRAP FOR WHAT I'M

GETTING A TICKET FOR.

I WAS GETTING OUT OF YOUR WAY.

YOU WERE SPEEDING AND TAILINGME.

SO I MOVE OVER.

AND YOU STOP ME.

SO, YEAH, I AM IRRITATED, BUTTHAT DOESN'T STOP YOU FROM

GIVING ME A TICKET SO -->> ARE YOU DONE?

Larry: OKAY.

THIS IS THE FIRST ESCALATION.

YOU ASKED HER THE QUESTION.

SHE ANSWERED IT, AND THEN YOUGOT A LITTLE SNIPPY.

"ARE YOU DONE?" ISN'T HOW YOUFINISH SOMETHING.

"ARE YOU DONE?" IS HOW YOU STARTSOMETHING.

(LAUGHTER)RIGHT?

(LAUGHTER)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

JUST SAYIN'.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYIN'.

OKAY?

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOWWHAT HE'S STARTING RIGHT NOW IS

AN ESCALATION.

>> YOU ASKED ME WHAT'S WRONG ANDI TOLD.

>> OKAY.

SO NOW I'M DONE, YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU MIND PUTTING OUT YOURCIGARETTE, PLEASE.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: OKAY.

SHE SAID SHE WAS DONE.

AND YOU KEPT ON GOING.

"YOU MIND PUTTING OUT YOURCIGARETTE, PLEASE?" IS THE

DEFINITION OF NOT BEINGINTERESTED IN DONE.

YOU'RE FISHING FOR UNDONENESS.

ALL RIGHT?

NOW, LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING IT'STHE BEST IDEA TO BE SMOKING A

BUTT WHEN A COP PULLS YOU OVER.

BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO.

ALL RIGHT?

AND IT DEFINITELY SHOULDN'TRESULT IN THIS:

>> I'M IN MY CAR.

WHY DO I HAVE TO PUT OUT MYCIGARETTE?

>> YOU CAN STEP ON OUT NOW.

I DON'T HAVE TO STEP OUT OFMY CAR.

>> STEP OUT OF THE CAR.

STEP OUT OF THE CAR.

>> NO, YOU DON'T HAVE THERIGHT --

>> STEP OUT OF THE CAR.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TODO THAT.

>> I DO HAVE THE RIGHT.

NOW STEP OUT OR I WILL REMOVEYOU.

>> I REFUSE TO TALK TO YOU OTHERTHAN TO IDENTIFY MYSELF --

>> GET OUT OR I WILL REMOVE YOU.

I AM GETTING REMOVED FOR AFAILURE TO SIGNAL?

>> STEP OUT OR I WILL REMOVEYOU.

I'M GIVING YOU A LAWFUL ORDER.

GET OUT OF THE CAR NOW, OR I'MGOING TO REMOVE YOU.

>> AND I'M CALLING MY --I'M GOING TO YANK YOU OUT OF

HERE.

>> OKAY.

YOU'RE GOING TO YANK ME OUT OFMY CAR?

>> GET OUT.

Larry: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S DO THIS.

>> WE'RE GOING TO.

DON'T TOUCH ME.

GET OUT OF THE CAR!

DON'T TOUCH ME.

I'M NOT UNDER ARREST.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO -->> YOU ARE UNDER ARREST.

I'M UNDER ARREST FOR WHAT?

25-47 F.M. 298, SEND ME AUNIT.

GET OUT OF THE CAR!

GET OUT OF THE CAR NOW!

>> WHY AM I BEING APPREHENDED?

YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE ME ATICKET FOR FAILURE --

>> I SAID GET OUT OF THE CAR.

WHY AM I BEING APPREHENDED?

YOU OPEN MY CAR DOOR -->> I'M GOING TO DRAG YOU OUT OF

HERE.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO DRAG ME OUTOF MY OWN CAR?

>> GET OUT OF THE CAR!

I WILL LIGHT YOU UP!

GET OUT!

>> WOW.

NOW!

WOW!

GET OUT OF THE CAR!

Larry: OKAY.

HERE'S WHAT I SAW.

I SAW A WOMAN WHO WAS VERYIRRITATED, PROBABLY HAVING A BAD

DAY -- MOST LIKELY BECAUSE SHEWAS PULLED OVER -- SMOKING A

CIGARETTE TO CALM DOWN, COMPLIEDWITH EVERYTHING THE OFFICER

ASKED FOR.

THEN IT GOT CONFUSING BECAUSE HETOLD HER TO PUT OUT HER

CIGARETTE BUT THEN OFFERED TOLIGHT HER UP BY POINTING A TASER

AT HER HEAD.

TO ME AND MOST REASONABLEPEOPLE, IT'S VERY CLEAR THIS

OFFICER WAS WRONG.

>> IF YOU ARE BEING STOPPED BY APOLICE OFFICER, WHETHER THAT

POLICE OFFICER IS RIGHT ORWRONG, DON'T YOU DO WHAT HE SAYS

UNTIL AFTERWARDS.

THEN YOU CAN SUE HIM.

THEN YOU'RE STILL ALIVE.

>> Larry: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, IDON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE YELLING

AT.

[ AUDIENCE BOOs ]SECONDLY, SHOULD ONE BE ON ONE'S

BEST BEHAVIOR WHEN THE COP PULLSONE OVER?

IDEALLY, YES.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE COP ISA PROFESSIONAL.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)RIGHT?

SHOULD HE NOT HAVE BEEN ON SUCHA POWER TRIP?!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)NOW I'M YELLING, DON LEMON.

(LAUGHTER)LET ME CALM DOWN FOR A SECOND.

IT'S EASY TO SAY, BLACK PEOPLE,WHY AREN'T YOU ACTING LIKE THE

DOWAGER COUNTESS WHEN A COPPULLS YOU OVER?

(LAUGHTER)"OH, HELLO, OFFICER.

I'M SO PLEASED YOU'VEUNEXPECTEDLY DROPPED IN ON ME!

AH!

(LAUGHTER)WOULD YOU LIKE SOME TEA?

I BREW IT IN MY GLOVECOMPARTMENT."

(LAUGHTER)NEXT TO MY STASH OF WEED THAT I

HAVE.

(LAUGHTER)YES, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THE FACTTHAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE

BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO STRATEGIZESO THEY'RE NOT BRUTALIZED BY

POLICE IS INSANE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S DON LEMON.

THAT'S DON LEMON.

WHAT DOES FOX HAVE TO SAY ABOUTTHIS?

(LAUGHTER)I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN WATCH.

>> THERE WAS NO REASONWHATSOEVER TO ARREST HER.

SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO HIMFOR THAT REASON.

SHE HAD TO GIVE HIM HER DRIVER'SLICENSE AND HER INFORMATION AND

THAT WAS IT.

>> WHY IS SHE IN JAIL FOR THREEDAYS?

>> ON $5,000 BAIL!

THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INTENSEINVESTIGATION.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: THIS IS HOW YOU KNOWHOW [ BLEEP ] CRAZY A SITUATION

IS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)RIGHT?

WHEN I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHITEPEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT

RACE ON FOX.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)RIGHT?

OH!

THAT'S HOW CRAZY IT IS.

ANYONE ELSE WHO I ALWAYSVEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH ALSO

GETTING THIS RIGHT?

ANYONE?

ANYONE?

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS TERRIBLE.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: YOU'VE GOT TO BE

[ BLEEP ] ME!

(LAUGHTER)>> I THOUGHT IT WAS TERRIBLE.

I THOUGHT HE WAS SO AGGRESSIVE.

IT WAS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, AS IUNDERSTAND IT, AND, YOU KNOW,

WHO GETS OUT OF A CAR FOR ATRAFFIC SIGNAL?

I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE POLICE,BUT THIS GUY WAS OVERLY

AGGRESSIVE.

TERRIBLY AGGRESSIVE.

>> Larry: EVEN TRUMP AGREES?!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)RIGHT?

OH.

OKAY.

WE HAVE LOST CABIN PRESSURE.

(LAUGHTER)PUT YOUR MASK ON FIRST.

(LAUGHTER)ALL RIGHT.

BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THERE'SA LOT OF SPECULATION IN THE

MEDIA AND ONLINE RIGHT NOW ABOUTWHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO SANDRA

BLAND.

SOMETIMES THE MOST RATIONALTHING TO SAY IS "I DON'T KNOW."

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TOSANDRA, AND TO ENGAGE IN A

GUESSING GAME ABOUT HOW SHEPASSED THIS OR THAT, IT CAN BE

RECKLESS.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE RACIALCLIMATE IS SUPERCHARGED RIGHT

NOW.

WE JOKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, BUTTHE BLACK COMMUNITY IS ON EDGE.

AND IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME TOSEE A BLACK WOMAN GET IRRITATED

WITH A POLICE OFFICER.

JUST AS IT DOESN'T SURPRISE METO SEE A POLICE OFFICER NEGLECT

TO DE-ESCALATE A TENSESITUATION.

(APPLAUSE)I MEAN, TO ME --

IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE THEY WERETWO PLAYERS IN A GREEK TRAGEDY

MARCHING TOWARD AN INEVITABLECONCLUSION.

SANDRA BRAND IS ONE VICTIM.

BUT HER STORY SPEAKS TO A LARGERISSUE.

AN ISSUE WE SHOULD BE TRYING TOSOLVE BEFORE IT BECOMES A

PROBLEM AGAIN.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE).

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUTRACIAL TENSIONS IN THE SOUTH

LATELY.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VEHAD OUR EYE ON HERE AT "THE

NIGHTLY SHOW."

SO WE SENT MIKE YARD TO THE DEEPSOUTH OF MANHATTAN TO FIND OUT

MORE.

TAKE A LOOK.

>> ALL I KEEP HEARING THESE DAYSIN THE NEWS IS THE CONFEDERATE

FLAG THAT.

I'M SICK OF IT.

THEY DON'T HAVE A MONOPOLY ONRACISM.

TAXI!

(LAUGHTER)WE HAVE RACISM HERE TOO.

♪♪♪♪

>> TODAY, RIGHT HERE ON THISSPOT, NEW YORK IS UNVEILING A

HISTORIC MARKER FOR A SLAVEMARKET.

ANYBODY WANT TO BUY ONE?

GET YOUR FRESH, HOT NEGROES.

YOU WANT A NEGRO.

HE'S ONE FOR YOU.

ONE FOR YOU.

YOU WANT TO BUY ONE?

HOW'S THAT FOR RACISM?

HUH?

>> FOR 50 YEARS, MEN AND WOMENWERE BOUGHT AND SOLD AND FORCED

INTO SLAVERY.

>> THIS WAS THE CENTER OFCOMMERCE FOR THE BRITISH.

THEY CENTERED ALL THE MARKETSHERE AS WELL.

>> A LOT OF TIME THEY HAD GRAINTHAT WERE FOR SALE TOO ALONG

WITH THE SLAVES.

SO YOU COULD GET A DEAL. BAG OFGRAIN WITH A SKINNY NEGRO.

(LAUGHTER)♪♪

>> HOW MANY NEW YORKERS KNOWTHAT OUR CITY'S SLAVE MARKET WAS

RIVALED ONLY BY THE SLAVE MARKETIN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA?

>> HOW MANY OF ANY OF YOU KNEWTHAT.

>> HOW MUCH TO YOU THINK I WOULDHAVE WENT FOR?

>> YOU?

HOW MUCH WOULD YOU HAVE PAID?

YOU?

HOW MUCH WOULD YOU HAVE PAIDFOR ME?

>> THIS BECAME A PLACE FORBUYING AND SELLING AND RENTING

HUMAN BEINGS.

>> THEY PAY MORE FOR CHILDREN.

THEY WOULDN'T BIUY ME, THEYWOULD BUY A CHILD BEFORE ME?

>> THEY'D RATHER HAVE A CHILD.

A CHILD CAN'T LIFT WHAT I CANLIFT.

THE BROTHER WITH THE YO-YOTRICK.

YOU WOULD'VE GONR FOR A LOT INTHIS MARKET.

(LAUGHTER).

>> YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS.

YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULDBUY ME.

>> UH-HUH.

AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING WOULDYOU BUY A CHILD -- YOU WOULD BUY

A CHILD BEFORE WOULD YOU BUY ME.

>> I DON'T NEED A CHILD, BUTBACK IN NEW YORK, DURING THE

TIME OF SLAVERY, THEY LOVEDCHILDREN.

>> I'M GETTING UNCOMFORTABLEWITH THIS.

(LAUGHTER)♪♪

>> THE SOUTH DON'T OWN RACISM.

THE SOUTH DON'T OWN SLAVERY.

WE CAN BE JUST AS ASS-BACKWARDSIN THE NORTH.

SO REMEMBER, THAT STANK IS ONALL OF US.

THEY PAY YA'LL, RIGHT? WE DON'TWORK FOR FREE NO MORE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Larry: MIKE YARD, EVERYBODY!

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

I'M HERE WITH MY PANEL.

"THE NIGHTLY SHOW" WRITER JORDANCARLOS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)YOU CAN SEE HIM AT THE NEW YORK

FRINGE FESTIVAL IN AUGUST,FORMER NEW YORK CITY POLICE

OFFICER AND COMEDIAN MARKDeMAYO.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)AND ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT

FORDHAM UNIVERSITY, CHRISTINAGREER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SANDRA BLAND

INCIDENT HERE.

I JUST WANT TO ASK EVERYBODY,HOW SHOULD YOU ACT WHEN YOU ARE

PULLED OVER BY A COP?

>> NICE.

TRY TO BE AS NICE AS POSSIBLE.

I WAS.

I ALWAYS WAS EVEN WHEN I WASKID.

AND I WASN'T ALWAYS A COP.

I USED TO ACT UP AND GET INTOTROUBLE.

WHENEVER I GOT IN TROUBLE, YES,SIR, APOLOGIES.

THOSE ARE OKAY TOO.

>> I TRY NOT TO SING THE THEMEFROM "COPS," YOU KNOW?

(LAUGHTER).

♪ BAD BOYSBAD BOYS

WHAT YOU GOING TO DO? ♪>> JOIN IN IF YOU WANT TO,

OFFICER.

(LAUGHTER)>> YOU INVITE THE OFFICER TO

JOIN IN.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

MAYBE HE WANTS TO GET IN ON IT.

>> Larry: MARK?

JUST GO OUT AND GET IN HISCAR.

>> I JUST MIGHT.

BRING YOUR OWN CUFFS TOO.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: DID YOU ACT WITHIN

YOUR RIGHTS OR SHOULD YOU ACTPOLITE?

>> WELL, I THINK FOR BLACKPEOPLE WE'VE CLEARLY SEEN WHEN

YOU ACT POLITE, IT DOESN'TMATTER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)AND SO THIS IS -- I THINK THIS

THE TENSION, RIGHT?

SO MANY PARENTS HAVE TOLD THEIRCHILDREN AND THEMSELVES, IF I'M

GOOD, RIGHT, THINGS WON'TESCALATE, AND I CAN GO ON MY

WAY.

WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THECASE.

IF WE ALSO TELL OFFICERS THAT WEKNOW OUR RIGHTS, THEN WE HAVE

OFFICERS TELLING US THEY'LLLIGHT OUR ASSES UP AND DRAG OUR

ASSES OUT.

SO -->> Larry: IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SENSE ABOUTWHY IT ESCALATED.

WHAT'S THE CONFLICT?

IS IT BLACK/WHITE?

SOME OF IT TO ME WAS MANCOP/WOMAN DRIVER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WHEN HE KEPT SAYING, WHAT'SWRONG?

YOU OKAY?

YOU HAVING A BAD DAY?

(OVERLAPPING TALKING)>> EVER ASK A WOMAN WHAT'S

WRONG?

(LAUGHTER)AND AFTER THAT, WHATEVER YOU DO,

DON'T EVER TELL HER YOU LOOKAGGRAVATED.

(LAUGHTER)>> LET'S BE CLEAR.

THERE'S THE INTERSECTION OFRACE, GENDER AND CLASS, AND WITH

HIM POWER.

(APPLAUSE)>> Larry: HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO

ASK YOU.

YOU'RE A FORMER COP, RIGHT?

MALCOLM GLADWELL IN HIS BOOK"BLINK" TALKS ABOUT THE

ESCALATION MOMENT. HE TALKSABOUT IT BRILLIANTLY.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TRAININGSO YOU CAN HANDLE WHEN YOUR

HEART'S GOING FAST AND ALL THATSTUFF.

IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THERE WASNO TRAINING INVOLVED, BECAUSE HE

PROVOKED AT EVERY ESCALATIONPOINT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO --EVERY ESCALATION POINT, HE COULD

HAVE BROUGHT IT DOWN, BUT HEPUSHED IT FURTHER.

>> THERE WAS THE MOMENT THERE --(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

THERE WAS A MOMENT THERE ITWAS A REGULAR CAR STOP AND THEN

WHEN HE CAME BACK AND HE SAID,WHAT'S THE MATTER?

YOU LOOK UPSET.

OF COURSE, I'M UPSET.

I JUST GOT A SUMMONS OR I'MGETTING A SUMMONS.

SHE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A WARNINGSUMMONS AND FOR FAILURE TO

SIGNAL.

I WAS A COP.

I WAS IN A COP CAR PLENTY OFTIME SEEING COPS BEHIND ME AND

GO, OH, MY GOD, WHAT DID I DO?FORGETTING I WAS AT WORK

(LAUGHTER)THERE HAS TO BE LITTLE LEEWAY

WHERE IF YOU DIDN'T SIGNAL, IT'SNOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

I WAS A NEW YORK CITY COP, IWOULDN'T ASK ANYBODY TO PUT OUT

A CIGARETTE. THEY'RE $14 A PACK.

(LAUGHTER)>> WOULD YOU PUT OUT YOUR

CIGARETTE?

>> THIS AMONG OTHER REASONS ISWHY BLACK FOLKS SHOULDN'T SMOKE

BUT --(LAUGHTER)

I WOULD DEFINITELY PUT OUT MYCIGARETTE AND, LIKE MARK SAID, I

WOULD GET INTO THE BACK OF THESQUAD CAR IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT

HIM EVEN SAYING ANYTHING.

HE'LL BE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUDOING?

>> YOU'D JUST GET IN THE SQUADCAR.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I'D BE LIKE,LET'S

SORT IT OUT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

I'D BRING MY OWN CUFFS.

THESE ARE VERY NICE.

YOU KNOW?

I LIKE -->> Larry: WOULD YOU HAVE --

CAN I JUST SAY ONE THINGABOUT ATTITUDE?

>> Larry: SURE.

YOU GO TO THE DMV, SOMEBODY'STHERE.

YOU WAIT TWO HOURS ON LINE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE FRONT,YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, I

NEED THIS.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE, HELLO, HI,I'M -- YEAH!

SO BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET YOURREGISTRATION RENEWED.

WHEN YOU'RE STOPPED BY THE COPS,YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF IT QUICK.

JUST BE NICE.

>> Larry: NO CHANCE OF SOMEBODYSHOOTING YOU AT THE --

(LAUGHTER)-- DMV.

>> HERE'S SOMETHING I THINK WESHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS, WHICH

IS THE FACT THAT BEINGAFRICAN-AMERICAN, YOU ALWAYS

HAVE TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TOBE ON YOUR Ps AND Qs ALL THE

TIME, NOT JUST AROUND THE COPSBUT AROUND THOSE WHO CAN CALL

THE COPS.

YOU KNOW, AND THIS LADY JUST HADA BAD DAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

AND SHE DIDN'T CARRY THAT MANTLEFOR A SECOND AND IT COST HER.

IT'S HEAVY.

IT'S A HEAVY BURDEN.

>> Larry: THATS WHYI DON'TLIKE ALL THE BLAMING ON HER.

>> IF SHE HAD ONLY NOT SPOKENBACK, THEN THIS WOULDN'T HAVE

HAPPENED.

BLACK FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY AREHELD TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

STANDARD.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)WE ARE.

>> YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE --(APPLAUSE).

>> Larry: THE OTHER COMPONENT OFIT ALSO, DEPRESSION PARTICULARLY

THESE TYPES OF THINGS INUNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE

WHO DON'T HAVE HEALTHCARE, BIGPROBLEM NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT.

(APPLAUSE)BIG PROBLEM.

>> SO I MEAN, THIS IS COMING OUTAFTER THE FACT, RIGHT?

POLICE OFFICER DID NOT KNOWTHAT. EVERYONE WANTS TO MAKE

IT ABOUT DEPRESSION. BUT WHATABOUT TRAUMA?

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLEWHO -- BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE

BEHIND THE WHEEL, BLACK PEOPLEWHOSE KIDS ARE TURNING 16 AND

IT'S A DREADED DAY FOR A BLACKPARENT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT

THEIR CHILD IS NOW GOING TO BEON THE ROAD BY THEMSELVES WITH

POLICE OFFICERS.

I MEAN, THIS IS -- THERE'SDEPRESSION AND THERE'S THERE'S

ALSO SOMETHING ELSE.

THERE'S A LEVEL OF FEAR THATBLACK FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY

HAVE, AND IT'S FROM THE STATE.

AND UNTIL PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THIS,IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A

SASSY MOUTH.

SHE'S ALLOWED.

IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.

>> IT'S NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE.MY SON DRIVES --

AND I GET NERVOUS WHEN HEDRIVES.

I TELL HIM, LISTEN, YOU GETPULLED OVER -- AND I WAS A COP,

AND I TELL HIM ALL THE TIMEEXACTLY WHAT TO DO.

AND THAT'S -- ON THE OTHER TIP,I'M FROM TEXAS.

AND A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE DO GETPULLED OVER IN TEXAS SPEEDING

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEHELL OUT.

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: THERE'S A LOT OFTHINGS WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW

ABOUT THIS, BUT THAT IS ONETHING WE KNOW FOR SURE.

(LAUGHTER)WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

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