Donald Trump's presidential campaign goes broke, and Larry joins rapper M1, Mike Yard and Holly Walker for a discussion about America's infatuation with guns.
-(cheering continues)-Hey! Thank you very much!
Thank you very much! Yeah!Welcome to The Nightly Show!
Thank you very much.Please have a seat.
So kind.Such a kind audience.
-(cheering continues)-I know, I know.
I'm your host, Larry Wilmore.
Uh, man,we have such a good show.
Rapper M1 is on the paneltonight, guys.
-(cheering, applause)-I am so excited about that.
Now, I have to say, um,when I think of Charlie Rose,
um, I think of two things.
Number one,international sex symbol.
True. Accomplished journalist,right?
So here he is this week askingJoe Biden about the Middle East,
and it seemsJoe Biden has confusion
about who's interviewing whom.
We've had a problem overthrowingthese dictators,
like Mubarak and like Gaddafiand like Saddam.
Would we have been better offif they'd stayed?
My question was, okay...tell me what happens.
He's gone. What happens?
Doesn't the countrydisintegrate?
What happens then?
Okay, I know what the first stepis, and the second step.
What's the thirdand fourth step?
Hmm. Uh, I'll tell youwhat the fifth step is.
Answer the questions!
You answer the questions.
Actually, to be fair,Biden is prepping
for his ownpost-White House show,
Afternoon Joe with Joe Biden: I'll ask the (bleep) questions.
All right. Moving on.
This week wasthe summer solstice,
giving us the shortest nightsof the year.
And speaking of making(bleep) less dark,
let's check in with what'shappening with The Unblackening.
Ah, my favorite song. Mm-hmm.
Now, it seems that Donald Trumphas taken the de-Negrofication
of the White House so literally,even his finances are moving
out of the blackand into the red.
NEWSMAN: With just months to go before the general election,
it looks like the Trump campaign
is essentially broke.
NEWSWOMAN: Financial reports show the Trump campaign
started June with just over $1 million in cash on hand
while Hillary Clinton had $42 million.
Forty... Oh, my God!
Hillary's cashoutnumbers Trump's
by a factor of 42?
Which, ironically, will bethe same as the age difference
between Trumpand his future fourth wife.
Sure. Look out,Slavic ladies born in 1987.
Now, Trump's financial woesseem especially ironic
given Trump's tweetfrom less than a month ago
from his campaign.
Uh, and I quote,"more cash than any campaign
in the history of politics."
Meaning hissocial media presence
is even more dishonestthan mine.
Sorry, Nancy,but I didn't want you to have
the best birthday ever.
-(laughter)-I was lying.
Still, if Trump's lack of cashseems hard to believe,
wait until you hear how he spentthe money he does have.
NEWSMAN: Other glaring findings this month--
17% of the campaign spending was dished out
to Trump-related entities,
like when the campaign rents space
from a Trump property for an event.
Okay, here's whatthey're talking about.
In May, Trump paid $423,000
to his own palatialFlorida estate, Mar-a-Lago.
Okay? Let me break this down.
So, here's candidate Trumprunning for president, right?
And then here are the peopledonating to candidate Trump.
"Yay! Take our money!We're stupid!" Right? Okay.
-(whooping, shouting)-All right, hold on. All right.
And candidate Trump,candidate Trump says,
"Yeah, I'm gonna take that moneyand throw a big campaign event.
"How about that big,tacky, gaudy, (bleep)..."
And then businessman Trump says,"Oh, good,
I own that big, tacky,gaudy, (bleep)...
Okay? So then businessman Trump
charges candidate Trumpfull price.
So both Trumps profitwhile America takes the loss.
That's calledthe Mar-a-Lago Shuffle.
It's a classic grift.
And Mar-a-Lago isn't the onlyplace he's running this grift.
When you searchhis campaign's financial records
for the word "Trump,"you find over a dozen
self-titled companiesgetting money from the campaign.
I mean, this politicalshell game is so transparent.
It's why I don't name anyof my scam companies for myself.
-(laughter)-Mm. I don't.
-(whooping, applause)-That is so obvious.
It's... guys, no,I give them weird names
like Bizzflash Strategiesand...
Yeah, that's right, bitches.
Didn't know I owned Quiznos,did you?
That's right, I do. Yeah.
Quiznos. The sandwich chain
that didn't accidentallyhitch its wagon
to a child molesterfor 15 years.
(laughter, whooping, applause)
And it's toasted. Mmm.
Okay. We gonna get in troublefor that one.
It's true, it's true.
We didn't do it, right?
We did not. We did not.
All we did was enjoythe sandwiches. Okay.
And with all this talkabout Trump's shady finances,
the Benghazi Kid took the podiumto set Donald straight, okay?
And she even made,like, a Celes...
Celestial Seasoningsvariety pack
and offered some zingers.
He's written a lot of booksabout business.
They all seem to endat Chapter 11.
(shouts, laughter, whooping)
Yeah, if there's one thingthat'll make Hillary
seem less stiffon the campaign trail,
it's quoting from the 101 Hilarious Accountant Jokes.
Well done, Hillary, well done.
But that wasn't Hillary'sonly slam.
Hillary Clinton called youthe king of debt.
Well, no, she didn't call me,I call myself the king of debt.
I'm the king of debt.I'm great with debt.
Nobody knows debtbetter than me.
I've made a fortuneby using debt.
This man has no shame, you guys!
He's actually proud of debt.
I've never seen anybody turnmore (bleep) into fool's gold
-than Donald Trump.-(laughter)
You know, maybewhen you're that orange,
it just feels comfortable beingin the red. I don't get it.
Okay. So, here to tell us more
about his recentcampaign finance troubles
is the Republican nomineehimself, Donald Trump.
All right, uh, now, Mr. Trump,how do you explain
your campaign finances?
I mean, they seem so dismal.
Excuse me, excuse me.You're dismal, okay?
My finances, they're fantastic.
I mean, they'reat an all-time high
of being at an all-time low.
They're the highest finances
in terms of lowness, okay,you'll ever find, okay?
-(laughter)-Believe me, believe me.
that doesn't even make sense!
-Look, when it comesto my finances, -Uh-huh.
-I am completely in the black,okay? -Right.
Which, by the way, is the onlyblack I'd ever be in, okay?
-(audience ooh'ing)-So, uh...
sorry... sorry, Omarosa,but, uh, not gonna happen, okay?
Okay, that's revolting,all right?
And, okay, now,how come you don't care
about your campaign'smoney troubles?
-You just... -BecauseI am the king of debt, okay?
-Right. -I am number oneat world-class debt.
Ask anybody in Atlantic City,they'll tell you.
I mean, when you're Trump,losing is the ultimate form
All right, so you admit yourcandidacy is just a-an excuse
to funnel moneyinto the Trump empire?
That's right. It's genius,isn't it? It, uh,
as The New York Times reported last night,
I paid over a million dollarsto my businesses
and family members in May alone.
Hell, I even paid my son Eric,and he's a (bleep) idiot.
Um... all right.
I think we're trying...
we're starting to findcommon ground here.
But that's really not somethingto brag about, really.
But look, look,he's the most unbelievable
-fantastic idiot you'veever met, believe me. -Okay.
He's a Trump, he's a Trump.
So, look, the American people,they like me because, look,
I'm the only person in history
running asa "true American", okay?
Look, I'm in this to get rich.I'm piling up massive debt
and I'm leaving a trailof cheap memorabilia
in my wake, okay?
Wow, you're right.
That does sound American.I guess we deserve it.
Donald Trump, everybody.We'll be right back.
-♪ -(cheering, applause)-Welcome back.
Now, the NBA has spawnedcountless conspiracy theories,
and I'm sure we've allheard somebody say
the draft lottery'srigged, right?
Or-or Shaquille O'Neal's inthe pocket of big talc, right?
Oh, is it just me?Okay, all right, all right.
Anyway, it seems likethis year's NBA Finals
between the Cleveland Cavaliersand Golden State Warriors
were a bonanza for the foamfinger and tin foil hat crowd.
So let's check in with ourin-basement conspiracy expert
Mike Yard in the latestinstallment of the Y-Files.
-♪ -(cheering, applause)
Hey, Mike. So, okay, so, what'syour take on the NBA Finals?
You-you think they were rigged?
Larry, I am delighted to seeyou are finally comprehending
the world at a first-gradelevel, my brother.
But ask yourselfwhat we ask ourselves
in the truth community: cui bono, huh?
Thanks for the Italiantranslation, I guess.
All right, some peoplesay the networks,
'cause if there are more gamesthey sell more ads,
but that's not necessarily true,because the Chicago Bulls
were the most popular teamin the '90s, right?
They went to the Finalssix times.
The Bulls never hada game seven.
(buzzes)You lose, my brother.
Of course the NBA Finalsis rigged.
But not by the networks.(scoffs)
What is this, amateur hour?Larry...
it was riggedby the Republicans.
It is a Republican conspiracy.
what could the GOPpossibly have to do
with the Cavs and the Warriors?
Come on, Oblivious B.I.G.
Exhibit A: Draymond Green.
The Warriors' Draymond Greengot suspended for one game
after swatting LeBronin his junk in game four.
What's been hitting Americain the balls
for the past six months, Larry?
Donald Trump, you guessed it.
Um... technically,I didn't guess it.
But, uh, but Donald Trump
has nothing to dowith the NBA, Mike.
Oh, really? Oh, really?
Then why did Steph Curry's wifetweet that game six was rigged
after he fouled out,but then delete it?
Why, Larry, why? Why?
(stammers) I don't know, becauseshe didn't want to look bad.
She was in the heatof the moment.
(short sigh) You know what,you need to take the red pill,
Wilmore, 'cause I'm aboutto Morpheus that ass.
Okay, listen, Ayesha Curryis from Toronto.
Toronto, Canada,Canada, maple syrup,
syrup, pancakes,pancakes, Denny's,
Denny's hates minorities,who else hates minorities?
(imitates bell ringing)Donald Trump!
-I just (bleep) you up.-Mike...
-that is completely insane,Mike. -Is it, now?
-Yes.-Well, chew on this, my brother.
-All right.-Cleveland is 53.3% black.
-Okay. -The exact samepercentage of points and assists
LeBron had in... of Clevelandscorers in the 2015 playoffs.
How do you explain that?
-When do you...-The same.
How much time do you haveto do all this math?
-First of all...-I got free time.
And what does the racialcomposition of Cleveland
have to do with LeBron James?What the hell
are you getting at, Mike?I don't understand.
I can't believe it.Larry, what's happening
in Cleveland in July?
Clev... I don't... Uh, uh,
oh, the, uh, Republicanconvention is in Cleveland.
Give that man who just pulledhis head out of his ass a cigar.
The Republican NationalCommittee rigged the Finals
-so Cleveland could win.-Okay, but how does that
connect to why Draymond Greendidn't play in game five?
I don't get the connection.
'Cause if he did,the Cavs might lose.
Then all the black peoplein Cleveland would riot
and ruin the convention.
The GOP could not afford an...a Warriors win.
'Cause Republicansdon't want to hang in the city
full of angry,window-breaking Negroes.
-You got to use this.-So, you're saying the Warriors,
in collusion with the NBA refs,
threw game five and game six?
Exactly, and Ayeshadidn't even know what was up.
She accidentallyhit upon the truth
with her heatof the moment tweet.
And they were all like,"Delete, bitch!
Delete, delete, delete,delete, delete!"
Damn, I can't believeI'm saying this, but...
oh, my God, Mike,this all makes sense.
I think I agree with you.The Finals were rigged.
It was the Republicans.
(crying)I'm gonna need a minute.
You convinced me.Mike, you convinced me.
Oh, I'm so proud today.Indeed they were, my brother.
But all this ain't nothingbut a smokescreen
for what I reallywant to talk about,
and is that Gucci Mane...
is really a government clone.
Okay, see, you had me, Mike,and now you lost me.
Mike Yard, everybody.We'll be right back.
You had me. Now I'm gone.
-You had me.-♪ -(cheering, applause)
Welcome back.I'm here with my panel.
First up, Nightly Show contributor Mike Yard.
And Nightly Show contributorHolly Walker.
And his album Between Me and the World
is out now, and his new show The Message launched today
on vice.com.From Dead Prez, rapper M1.
And for everyone at home,join our conversation right now
on Twitter-- @NightlyShow,using #Tonightly.
Now, uh, since the tragicmass shooting in Orlando,
we've been having a gun controldebate here in America,
uh, just like we doafter every mass shooting.
But one thing that seems to bemissing from this conversation--
and I wanted to bring this up--is the fact that,
uh, gun violence in poorblack communities is, like,
part of everyday life now,unfortunately.
Just-just this pastFather's Day weekend, you guys--
this is sobering--59 people were shot in Chicago.
Ten were shot at a block partyin west Philadelphia.
And 12 people were shot at abirthday party in Detroit, okay?
So, my question isdoes gun control
feel like a solutionfor what's happening
in these communities?
To me, um, I would say...I would say not.
Um, the... the solution,I think, is gonna come from
a difference in vibration.Uh, our communication
about what is real resolution?How to be real resolutionary.
I mean, gun controlalmost feels like
blaming the victim sometimes.
Um, I'm not sayingguns are helpful.
I'm not saying that, uh, we needto arm ourselves to the teeth.
But I'm saying, uh,it seems like, in our community,
you only hear about the tragedy.
You never hear about,uh, the positive fatherhood.
You never hear aboutthe-the victories.
You never hear aboutthe creativity,
you never hear about,uh, you know,
our connectionsthat really matter.
But we do always hear about
Chicago being the highestin murder rate in the world,
so I-I think the narrativehas to change
in order to createa different vibration.
And I'm not quite sureit happens
just throughgun control legislation.
-Right.-Yeah, I don't think it helps.
I don't think it helps anyway,'cause brothers
don't buy their guns from GunsR Us, so that's not gonna help.
-(laughter) -M1: Exactly. Yeah.-WILMORE: Right.
-Right? We don't goand fill out forms. -M1: Yeah.
-WILMORE: Mm-hmm.-You know, thugs buy their guns
out of somebody's trunk.You know what I mean?
-M1: Exactly. Yeah.-So that's...
So that's not gonna helpby regulating assault rifles.
Unless you're talkingabout banning all guns,
-then it's not gonna help.-M1: Exactly. -WILMORE: Mm-hmm.
They usually use handgunsin the hood.
-Thank you, Mike.-Usually.
-That's the deal.-You know, Glocks.
-Easy to hide in your pants.-Mm-hmm.
What do you think we can startseeing as the cure in this area?
Because we keep talkingabout this, like, when
these mass shootings happen,but when this happens,
you know, we seem at a loss justto know what to do first.
Like, what is that first move,you know?
Well, I mean,one of the first moves,
somethingthat could be helpful is--
I don't know-- better education.
-YARD: How about that?-M1: Yes. -How about that?
-M1: Yeah. -You know?-(applause and cheering)
WALKER:I mean, it would be nice.
-It would be nice.-YARD: Yeah, it would be cool
if we kind of ended systemicracism. That might help.
-Oh, that'd be nice.That'd be real nice. -Mm.
-(applause and cheering)-That might help.
-Might be a little thing(bleep). -WALKER: That could...
-Oh, you know. -You're so right.It's so much deeper than just...
You're talking about guns.
It's just like this kind of,you know, label issue.
-WILMORE: Mm-hmm. Yeah.-It's so much deeper than that.
-And, uh... Yeah. -YARD: Yeah.They talk about it like...
like black people in the hooddon't know how to act.
Let me tell you something.
Most people that are out in thestreet, committing crimes,
shooting folks,or doing whatever--
most of them people are doing itbecause they see that as...
That's their way to survive.
They're starving,and they want to eat, right?
-And when you get a gun,it's power. -M1: Right.
You give somebody a gun,they feel powerful,
and they go out...
And if they're hungry, they'regonna go eat with that power.
-M1: That's right.-You know what I'm saying?
So it's not about people justnot knowing how to behave.
It's about, you have a situationwhere people are undereducated.
-They're from disenfranchisedneighborhoods. -WILMORE: Right.
And they still got to eat.
-Poor people got to eat.-Yup. Yup. -Mm-hmm.
-(applause and cheering)-Well, but it's also...
It's also not black poor people.
-It's poor people in general.-YARD & M1: In general.
-It's not just black.-M1: Not black people. Exactly.
It's poor people in general.
-(applause)-Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I think
-we got to change the narrative.Um, you know... -Yeah.
Like he was saying,at the end of the day,
we can focus onwhat are our new weapons.
We have to weaponize ourselveswith creativity.
-(applause and cheering)-We got to, you know...
There's some heroes...there's heroes our hood...
-WILMORE: Right. -...you know,who have armed themselves with
-other than guns.-Right.
But how much do you thinkthe glorification of guns
in the culturemakes a difference
in this type of thing?
I thinkit makes a huge difference.
-Mm-hmm. -It's ridiculouslyhuge. The only few things...
The couple of things that I'velearned from hip-hop videos is
A: to have a gun in my hand,
and B: to have in the other handa big-bootied ho.
-M1: Mm.-Um, yeah.
-(applause) -And preferably,preferably, a big-bootied ho...
A big booty in one hand?How big...?
-It's gonna spill outof that other hand. -Uh-huh.
And preferably a big-bootied howho has guns in her hand, so...
-M1: Right.-So... I mean, that's...
-So, yes, it's being glorified.-WILMORE: Well, it's been
glorified in our culturefor a long time.
-M1: Yeah.-WALKER: Very much so. -Right.
-YARD: From the '70s. -The wildwild West was all about
-you know, the gun culture.-YARD: Super Fly.
-WALKER: Yeah. Yes.-M1: Exactly.
YARD: Super Fly. He was a pimp!
Yeah, but it was about his afrosand his high...
-I don't know. I...-But...
There was a lot of talkof cocaine.
No, Super Fly had a...He had a perm, right?
-He had a perm. Exactly.-Yeah, that's right.
But it seems to me...
America was built on violenceand hypocrisy
of violence in the worldso it's almost hypocritical
for us to talkabout disarming ourselves here
but bombing and droning andeverywhere else in the world.
-WILMORE: Mm.-It's very hypocritical.
And, you know,at the end of the day, um...
You know, it is what it is.
WILMORE:Exporting the violence.
-Yeah.-YARD: But we have a country
-that's fascinated by guns, man.-I think so.
I mean, it's unbelievable to me
that at the beginningof this nation,
you're starting a new country,and you write in an amendment
that says,"Hey, you can have guns."
-(laughter) -Why? Don't you haveother issues to deal with?
Why you talking about peopleshould be able to bear arms?
WILMORE: Well, I thinkat that point the issue
they were dealing with...needed guns.
-Well...-YARD: I mean, I don't know.
I mean, they won the war.
-With guns.-Yeah, but...
-(laughter)But not with...
not with farmers and gunsor accountants and guns.
With the military.
That's where guns should be--
in the militaryto protect your country.
Well, actually, our army wasa lot of farmers
and people like that with guns.It actually was.
-Yeah. Yeah, but...-It's true.
But we won that war,and we don't need them anymore.
Like, I don't feel like we need
to have the rightto bear arms now.
It's not as...We don't need...
Like, we don't need to go...
WILMORE:You don't think... You would be
-happy with the second amendmentgone away? -WALKER: Yup.
-Oh, yeah, I don't think it'snecessary anymore. -Absolutely.
-(applause and cheering)-I mean shouldn't have it.
The Constitutionwas meant to be a living
and breathing document, right?It's supposed to grow.
-WILMORE: Yeah. -As the countrygrew, it was supposed to grow.
-Yeah, we're... -WILMORE:Did you have guns in the house
-growing up?-M1: Yeah, there was guns
all around my house,all around my community.
YARD:Of course there was guns around.
And I didn't come to understandthem until, like...
You know, Huey P. Newtonparaphrased it well.
He said, "Political power comesfrom the barrel of a gun."
He was able to makea phenomenal statement
in Oakland, Californiaabout guns, and like you said,
we are meantto change that paradigm.
And then have you hip-hop, love,peace, unity and having fun.
-It wasn't built on thefoundation of guns... -Mm-hmm.
...but it was a weaponfor our community.
We have to evolve.We have to, like I said,
pick a bigger weapon.
I think we got to picka bigger weapon.
WILMORE:Like our mind!
-Our minds, yes!-WALKER: Exactly.
-All right, we'll be right back.-WALKER: Exactly.
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