June 9, 2015 - Manhunt in New York & Donald Rumsfeld on Iraq

  • 06/09/2015

Donald Rumsfeld makes a surprising statement about democracy in Iraq, and Jeff Ross, Lola Ogunnaike and Ricky Velez join Larry to discuss a prison break in upstate New York.

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THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

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WELCOME TO "THE NIGHTLY SHOW."

I'M LARRY WILMORE.

LET'S GET TO IT.

TOP STORY TONIGHT, MANHUNT.

>> RIGHT NOW THE MANHUNT FOR TWODANGEROUS KILLERS.

THEY ESCAPED FROM A MAXIMUMSECURITY PRISON UPSTATE.

THEN THEY VANISHED.

>> THEY VANISHED?

OR THEY CAN'T FIND THEM?

BECAUSE THEY IF THEY VANISHEDTHIS IS SUPERNATURAL [BLEEP],

RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE THATDISTINCTION.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

>> THE STATE POLICE ASKED THATTHE PUBLIC TAKE NO CHANCES, MAKE

NO EFFORTS TO APPREHEND THEM.

>> RIGHT.

TAKE NO CHANCES, PLEASE.

WHAT WAS THAT GUY'S NAME AGAIN?

MAJOR GUESS.

[APPLAUSE]WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT NAME

DOESN'T EXACTLY INSTILLCONFIDENCE DURING AN ONGOING

INVESTIGATION, YOU GUYS.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR GUESSHERE AND SAY SOMEBODY BLEW IT

BIG TIME.

BY THE WAY, DID YOU GET ANY INFOFROM COLONEL OF TRUTH?

HOW DID GENERAL UNEASINESS FEELABOUT THIS?

I'M GUESSING PRIVATE THOUGHTS HEWAS KEEPING TO HIMSELF.

HA-HA. THIS IS VERY EXCITINGTHOUGH, GUYS.

I LOVE A GOOD PRISON BREAKSTORY.

IT'S LIKE THAT MOVIE.

COME ON, HELP ME OUT, EVERY NEWSSHOW ON TELEVISION

>> LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF"SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION."

S LIKE SHAWSHANK LIKE "SHAWSHANKREDEMPTION."

"SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION"."SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION STYLEBREAK-OUT.

SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION CAME TOMIND.

>> THEY HAD PUT DUMMIES IN THEBED LIKE "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION."

SO IT'S LIKE SHAWSHANK? IS THATWHAT IT'S LIKE?

>> I WAS GOING TO WITH "OBROTHER WHERE ART THOU?,"

BECAUSE IT HAS "BROTHER" IN THETITLE.

BUT SADLY, IT ONLY HAS ONEBROTHER IN IT.

BUT I DIGRESS. OK, LET'S GETBACK TO IT.

SO, THEY'RE LIKE ANDY DUFRESNETHEN. HAVE THEY BEEN

WRONGLY ACCUSED, AND THIS ISSOME KIND OF COSMIC JUSTICE?

BECAUSE IF THEY ARE, I'M ALL IN,GUYS.

>> SWEAT WAS SERVING LIFE AFTERKILLING A SHERRIF'S DEPUTY

HE SHOT HIM 22 TIMES.

MATT SERVING 25 YEARS TO LIFEKIDNAPPING, BEATING, KILLING AND

DISMEMBERING HIS BOSS.

>> THAT'S HORRIBLE, MAN!

HIS BOSS?

YOU KNOW, AS A BOSS I FIND THELAST PART OF THAT KIDNAPPING,

BEATING, KILLING, DISMEMBERINGSENTENCE HORRIFYING.

UP TILL NOW, I THOUGHT THE WORSTTHING YOU COULD DO TO YOUR BOSS

WAS NOT GIVE TWO WEEKS' NOTICE.

SO HOW DID THESE GUYS ESCAPE,ANYWAY? JUMP OVER THE WALL ORSOMETHING?

>> THEY CUT HOLES IN THE STEELWALLS BEHIND THEIR BEDS, CRAWLED

UP THE CATWALK 6 FLOORS UP,BROKE THROUGH A BRICK WALL

2 FEET THICK, CUTTING HOLESINTO AND OUT OF A STEAM PIPE

SHIMMYING UNDER THE PRISON WALL,AND BREAKING OUT OF A MANHOLE

MORE THAN A BLOCK AWAY.

>> NICE ANIMATION, MSNBC.

YOU MUST HAVE BLOWN THEWHOLE NEWS BUDGET ON THAT ONE.

LET ME SEE THE STEAM PIPE PARTAGAIN.

I LOVE THAT SHIMMY.

LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK I SEE A NEW DANCECOMING.

STEAM PIPE SHIMMY.

ALL RIGHT?

YOU LAUGH.

THAT'S HOW THAT [BLEEP] STARTS,YOU GUYS.

YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW?

I'M THE BOSS.

THESE GUYS COULDN'T POSSIBLYHAVE DONE THIS BY THEMSELVES.

THEY MUST HAVE HAD ANACCOMPLICE.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE OTHER THANMAJOR GUESS MAKING A MAJOR

GUESS?

>> THE KILLERS WHO TUNNELEDTHEIR WAY TO FREEDOM DEFINITELY

HAD HELP.

>> A FEMALE EMPLOYEE, NOWREVEALED TO BE AN EMPLOYEE WHO

WORKED IN THE TAILOR SHOP, WASSOME TYPE OF ACCOMPLICE.

>> I KNEW IT! [DANCE MUSIC]THAT DANCE MAKES NO SENSE AT

ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

HERE'S THE THING, NOT ONLY ANACCOMPLICE, THIS IS TRUE, IT

ACTUALLY GETS DEEPER.

SOURCES SAY SHE MAY HAVE BEENWOOED BY ONE OF THE CONVICTS,

RICHARD MATT.

OKAY.

HOLD UP.

WOOED?

HOW DOES A GUY WHO MURDERED,DISMEMBERED, KIDNAPPED AND

KILLED WOO YOU?

>> THIS IS A DETECTIVE WHOARRESTED HIM.

WHEN CLEANED, MATT IS HANDSOMEAND IN ALL FRANKNESS VERY WELL

ENDOWED.

>> WELL ENDOWED? SO YOUR THEORYIS THAT A BIG [BLEEP]

ERASED ALL THAT BADSTUFF, RIGHT?

LIKE HIS [BLEEP] IS LIKE THATWAND FROM "MEN IN BLACK"?

FOOMP.

YOU'RE GREAT.

WELL, WHO'S GOING TO TURN THISGUY IN NOW?

THIS IS A VERY LARGE PICKLE --OH, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.

>> FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS ISGETTING THEM BACK.

THEY'RE DANGEROUS WHEREVER THEYARE IN THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE OFFERING A$100,000 REWARD.

WE HAVE A NEW TIPLINE.

1-800-GIVE-TIP.

[LAUGHTER]>> ALL RIGHT.

YOU'RE WAY AHEAD OF ME,RIGHT? OKAY.

I SHOULD LET THE AUDIENCE DOTHIS PART.

THINK ABOUT THIS, GOVERNOR. YOUWANT PEOPLE TO

TURN IN THE BIG [BLEEP] GUY AT1-800-GIVE-TIP?

YOU DON'T SEE THE IRONY IN ANYOF THAT, RIGHT?

INSTEAD OF TURNING IN THE ENTIREGUY, CAN I TURN IN JUST THE TIP?

I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TOSHIMMY -- ALL RIGHT.

TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ONHOW THESE GUYS ESCAPED IS PRISON

PSYCHOLOGIST BRENDAKELLY-SUAREZ.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW, BRENDA.

WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THIS WOMANWHO HELPED THEM ESCAPE?

DOESN'T SHE KNOW THIS GUYDISMEMBERED PEOPLE?

>> DISMEMBER, DAT MEMBER, LET'STALK ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING

ON. MENTULA POTULENTUS.

>> MENTULA WHAT?

>> THAT'S THE LATIN TERM.

THE STREET TERM IS [BLEEP]DRUNK.

>> WOW.

[BLEEP] DRUNK, I DON'T THINK IUNDERSTAND.

>> IT'S LIKE BOOTY BLINDNESS.

>> OH, OKAY, I GET IT, I GET IT.

WOW.

THAT'S VERY SERIOUS.

>> LOOK, LARRY, EVERY NOW ANDTHEN IN LIFE A PENIS COMES ALONG

THAT'S SO PHENOMENALLYIMPRESSIVE --

>> WHOA.

>> -- IT WOULD MAKE ANYONE WEEPTEARS OF JOY.

>> REALLY?

>> AN ANIMAL THAT BEAUTIFULSHOULDN'T BE CAGED IN A ZOO.

>> HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WAIT.

ANIMAL?

YOU'RE SAYING SHE BROKE HIM OUTOF JAIL TO FREE HIS JOHNSON?

>> FREE JOHNSON, FREE WILLY,WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT,

LARRY.

DON'T WORRY.

THEY'RE GOING TO CATCH HIM,LARRY.

ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS LOOK FORTHE THREE-LEGGED MAN.

JUST, PLEASE, DON'T HURT HIM!

>> DON'T HURT HIM?

THESE GUYS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE.

>> FOR SCIENCE, LARRY.

FOR SCIENCE.

>> RIGHT.

>> THIS GUY REALLY NEEDS TO BESTUDIED.

>> OKAY, I GET IT.

BRENDA KELLY-SUAREZ, EVERYBODY.WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

>> WELCOME BACK.

HI, EVERYONE.

HOW'S IT GOING?

IN A GOOD MOOD?

I APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT I'M ABOUTTO DO.

REMEMBER THIS GUY?

>> YOU GO TO WAR WITH THE ARMYYOU HAVE, NOT THE ARMY YOU MIGHT

WANT OR WISH TO HAVE AT A LATERTIME.

>> THAT'S FORMER DEFENSESECRETARY DONALD RUMSFELD

EXPLAINING TO OUR TROOPS THATTHE ARMORED VEHICLES THEY WERE

REQUESTING WOULDN'T BE COMINGANYTIME SOON.

HA-HA-HA.

GOOD TIMES THERE.

YOU SEE, AFTER 9/11 WE INVADEDIRAQ, A COUNTRY THAT HAD NOTHING

TO DO WITH 9/11, BUT WEJUSTIFIED THE WAR BECAUSE WE

WE TOLD WE'D BE BRINGINGDEMOCRACY TO A COUNTRY THAT

REALLY WANTED IT. WHEN THE NEWSSTARTED REPORTING CHAOS,

OL DON SOLD

VIOLENCE AND UNREST, US WE WERENUTS FOR BEING WORRIED.

>> I READ EIGHT HEADLINES THATTALKED ABOUT CHAOS, VIOLENCE,

UNREST.

AND IT WAS JUST HENNY PENNY, THESKY IS FALLING.

I'VE NEVER SEEN LIKE IT.

AND HERE IS A COUNTRY THAT'SBEING LIBERATED, HERE ARE PEOPLE

WHO ARE GOING FROM BEINGREPRESSED AND HELD UNDER THE

THUMB OF A VICIOUS DICTATOR, ANDTHEY'RE FREE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

EVERYTHING WAS GOING GREAT, ANDONE THING IS FOR SURE,

MR. RUMSFELD WAS NOTHING BUTCONFIDENT ABOUT HOW WELL OUR

MISSION TO FORCE-FEED FREEDOMWAS GOING.

>> I HAD A LIST, A LONG LIST, OFTHREE OR FOUR, FIVE, SIX PAGES

OF THINGS THAT COULD GO WRONGSBECAUSE I TEND TO BE

CONSERVATIVE AND CAUTIOUS.

AND I LOOKED IT OVER THISMORNING, AND A NUMBER, A LARGE

NUMBER, HAVEN'T HAPPENED BAD.

>> YOU SEE, A LARGE NUMBER OFBAD THINGS THAT COULD HAVE

HAPPENED HADN'T HAPPENED.

WE WERE KILLING IT, LITERALLY.

THE IRAQ WAR WAS NOTHING BUTSMOOTH SAILING THE ENTIRE TIME

DON WAS SELLING IT TO YOU -- TOUS, RIGHT?

WHICH BRINGS US TO TODAY.

WHEN THIS LITTLE RUMSFELDCHESTNUT APPEARED IN THE TIMES

OF LONDON -->> HE TOLD THE TIMES OF LONDON,

QUOTE, I'M NOT ONE WHO THINKSTHAT OUR PARTICULAR TEMPLATE OF

DEMOCRACY IS APPROPRIATE FOR OURCOUNTRIES AT EVERY MOMENT OF

THEIR HISTORIES.

THE IDEA THAT WE COULD FASHION ADEMOCRACY IN IRAQ SEEMED TO ME

UNREALISTIC.

>> REALLY, DON?

IT SEEMED [BLEEP] UNREALISTIC TOYOU?

REALLY?5FOR HOW LONG?

>> I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT WHENI FIRST HEARD THOSE WORDS.

>> FROM WHEN YOU FIRST IT?

SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YOUWERE CONVINCED THAT WE WOULD NOT

SUCCEED?

>> FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WEWERE CONVINCED THAT WE WOULD

SUCCEED, AND THAT MEANS THATTHAT REGIME WOULD END.

>> HOLY [BLEEP]!

DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT YOURSPEECHES ARE VIDEOTAPED?

WHAT ARE YOU, A COP SHOOTING ANUNARMED BLACK GUY?

WHAT ARE YOU?

THERE ARE LITERALLY CAMERAS INTHE ROOM!

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, OKAY.

SO NOW YOU GUYS ARE BASICALLYCAUGHT UP.

NOW THAT 4,425 AMERICANS HAVEDIED IN IRAQ, RUMMY IS SAY, HE

KNEW TRYING TO BOMB IRAQ INTO ADEMOCRACY WAS A BAD IDEA, WHICH

LEAVES ONLY ONE QUESTION, DON,WHICH OF UNIFORM FORMER POSSE

ARE YOU THROWING UNDER THE BUSFOR THIS LITTLE OVERSIGHT WE

CALL A 13-YEAR QUAGMIRE?

YOU GONNA BLAME BUSH?

CHENEY?

POWELL?

I MEAN, AT THIS POINT WHY NOTBLAME THE BLACK GUY?

>> HE PLACES MOST OF THE BLAMEFOR THE CURRENT SITUATION IN THE

MIDDLE EAST ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'SUNWILLINGNESS TO CONFRONT ISIL

EFFECTIVELY.>> ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

WHY DID YOU TAKE ME LITERALLY?YOU'RE BLAMING OBAMA FOR THIS?

YOU CANNOT DO THAT

>> YES, YOU CAN, LARRY.

THAT'S HOW EVIL WORKS.

>> IS THAT SERIAL KILLER JEFFREYDAHMER?

>> YEAH.

I NEVER THOUGHT KILLING,DISMEMBERING, EATING THOSE

DELICIOUS PEOPLE WAS A GOODIDEA.

I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, SODON'T BLAME ME.

>> WELL, WHO SHOULD WE BLAMETHEN?

>> OBAMA.

>> WHAT?

COME ON NOW, JEFFREY DAHMER, YOUCAN'T BLAME OBAMA.

YOU ATE PEOPLE.

>> YEAH, YEAH.

>> WHAT'S HAPPENING, LARRY?

I HEARD YOU GUYS ARE TALKINGABOUT AFRICANS, SO I FIGURED I'D

JOIN IN.

WHAT'S UP, J.D.?

>> WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUTAFRICANS.

WAIT, ORGANDIAN STRONGMAN IDIAMIN?

THIS KEEPS GETTING WORSE.

>> HOW SO?

YOU KILLED BETWEEN 100,000 AND500,000 PEOPLE DURING YOUR

REGIME.

>> NO, MY BROTHER. THAT'S SWEETOF YOU TO SAY BUT

I CANNOT CREDIT FOR THAT.

THAT'S UNFAIR.

>> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

YOU COMMITTED GENOCIDE.

>> THAT'S ONLY ONE PERSON 100%RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, AND HIS

NAME IS OBAMA.

>> NO, NO, NO.

YOU'RE GOING TO BLAME PRESIDENTOBAMA FOR THIS?

>> NO, NO, NO.

HIS FATHER.

I ACTUALLY LIKE THE PRESIDENT.

>> JAJA!>> WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> IS THAT HITLER?

>> HITLER, CAN YOU NOT TELL MEYOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE

ATROCITIES.

>> NEIN!

VISSENHOFF OBAMA!

OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA!

>> STOP IT, HITLER. LOOK, ALL OFYOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR

THE EVIL YOU'VE DONE IN THISWORLD. YOU CAN'T JUST JUMP ON

THIS RUMSFELD TRAIN>> OOH, TRAINS, TRAINS, TRAINS!

NO, NO, NO.

>> STOP IT HITLER, STOP IT!

HITLER, YOU'RE THE MARQUEE NAMEWHEN IT COMES TO EVIL.

>> WHOA.

JUDAS BEGS TO DIFF.

>> JUDAS ISCARIOT?

LET ME GUESS, YOU'RE GONNA BLAMEOBAMA TOO?

>> NO. I WAS GONNA BLAME THEJEWS!

>> ALL OF YOU, GET OUT OF HERE.

GO ON, GET, GET.

>> GOOD-BYE, LARRY.

WE'LL SEE YOU SOON, MARCH24th, 2019.

>> WAIT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID, BRO.

>> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

DON'T LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE.

>> WELCOME BACK.

I'M HERE WITH MY PANEL.

"NIGHTLY SHOW" CONTRIBUTOR RICKYVELEZ, HOST OF ARISE

ENTERTAINMENT 360 ON ARISE NEWS,LOLA OGUNNAIKE, AND HIS NEW

SPECIAL, "JEFF ROSS, ROASTSCRIMINALS, LIVE AT BRAZOS COUNTY

JAIL" AIRING ON SATURDAY, JUNE13th ON COMEDY CENTRAL,

COMEDIAN JEFF ROSS.

JEFF, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THISBIG PRISON ESCAPE.

IT'S BIG NEWS.

YOU JUST DID A PRISON SPECIAL,RIGHT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> YOU'RE NOT DRESSED LIKE ANINMATE.

>> THIS IS THE WARDROBE.

>> WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARESO FASCINATED WITH PRISON

BREAKS?>> WOULDN'T IT BE CRAZY.

THEY HAVEN'T FOUND THESE TWOGUYS FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK.

BE CRAZY IF THEY RAN THROUGHHERE RIGHT NOW.

>> WHEN IT HAPPENS IN ADIFFERENT STATE, I'M FASCINATED.

WHEN IT HAPPENS IN NEW YORK, I'MSCARED.

I HAVE A BUDDY SYSTEM GOING ONWITH MY BUDDY RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU'RE SCARED?

>> YOU WOULDN'T YOU BE? THEY'REKILLERS!

>> THEY'RE CLOSE TO CANADA BYNOW.

>> WE SHOULD GIVE THEM TO THEM.

>> A HOUSEWARMING GIFT?

HERE, TAKE OUR CRIMINALS?

>> YEAH, WHY NOT.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?

THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY BAD GUYS.

I FEEL PART OF US WANT TO SEETHEM ON THE LAM FOR A WHILE.

>> I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF THEFILM THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE.

GEORGE CLOONEY AND BRAD PITTARE GOING TO STAR IN THIS.

JULIA ROBERTS GOING TO PLAY THEFRIENDLY TAILOR, AND IT'S GOING

TO -->> IT'S GOING TO BE ON LIFETIME

ABOUT A POOR WOMAN.>> I WANT TO BE THE FIRST TO

MENTION THIS REMINDS ME OF THEMOVIE "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION."

>> WHAT MAKES YOU MAKE THATCONNECTION?

>> JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME TOME WHEN I HEARD THAT COVERAGE.

>> WHO'S THE MORGAN FREEMANCHARACTER?

>> I THINK IT'S YOU.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO HELPPRISONERS, LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE

IN THERE?

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT'S ALLABOUT?

>> HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICTURE OFTHIS WOMAN?

>> NO.

>> I THINK SHE GOT TURNED OUT BYTHESE BAD BOYS.

>> DO YOU THINK SO?

>> YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK SO.

AND APPARENTLY THIS GUY ISPACKING SOME JUNK.

HE HAS PRISON GAME, TOO.

HE'S PROBABLY WHISPERING SWEETNOTHINGS IN HER EAR.

ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS WORK ONYOUR BODY IN PRISON.

>> IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE JUNKIS LEAVING.

>> MAYBE HE PROMISED SHE WOULDBE ALONG FOR THE RIDE, AND HE

LEFT HER.

YOU KNOW HOW YOU GUYS ARE.

>> IN THE DESCRIPTION, WHEN WASIT, LIKE, HE'S 6'0" TALL, WHITE,

HAS A BIG [BLEEP].

WHY IS THAT A THING?

WAS THERE A SKETCH ARTIST?

WAS I GOING TO FIND HIM INSWEATPANTS, AND BE, LIKE, I SEE

HIM, HE'S RUNNING THROUGH MYNEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.

>> MAYBE THERE WERE NO POWERTOOLS.

MAYBE IT WAS JUST HIS [BLEEP].

>> OH, WOW!

YES.

THAT'S WHAT TIM ROBINS USED IN"SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION," TOO.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUTWHY WE'RE FASCINATED WITH THEM,

THE AMERICAN CRIMINAL ISSOMETHING WE SEE ON TV, IN

MOVIES.

WHEN I WENT IN THERE, I SAW THATTHEY WERE, LIKE, REGULAR GUYS.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S DIRTBAGS. 90%OF THE PEOPLE I PERFORM FOR IN

JAIL ARE COMING OUTONE DAY.

THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS, OURFUTURE NEIGHBORS.

>> WHERE DO YOU LIVE?

>> IN NEW YORK CITY.

IN NEW YORK CITY.

>> DUDE, COME ON, THEY'RECRIMINALS.

>> ALLEGED CRIMINALS.

>> WAIT.

YOU THINK MOST OF THEM SHOULDN'TBE THERE?

>> I FEEL LIKE A LOT OFPEOPLE -- THIS IS CRAZY.

ONE IN EVERY HUNDRED AMERICANSIS BEHIND BARS RIGHT NOW.

>> RIGHT.

>> SO IT'S US.

>> I DON'T FEEL BAD FOR THESEGUYS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OUT.

THEY'RE HAVING THE BEST WEEK OFTHEIR LIVES.

THEY GOT OUT OF JAIL AND ONNATIONAL TV, THEY HAVE THE

BIGGEST [BLEEP] OF ALL TIME.

I CAN'T FEEL BAD FOR THEM.

>> AS A CULTURE, WE ROMANTICIZETHE NOTION OF THE CRIMINAL AND

OUTLAW.

EVEN OUR HIT SHOWS, TONYSOPRANO, TONY MONTANA, DEXTER IS

A SERIAL KILLER THAT KILLSSERIAL KILLERS.

"BREAKING BAD," A CRYSTAL METHDEALER, A CHEMISTRY TEACHER,

FUNDING HIS KEMOTHERAPY.

I MEAN, HELLO.

THESE ARE OUR ANTIHEROES. DON DRAPER.

WE LIKE THESE LARGER THAN LIFEFLAWED CHARACTERS

>> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHYSHE WENT FOR HIM.

THE FUNNY THING IS THE BIG[BLEEP], WHATEVER.

SERIOUSLY, WHAT IS IT ABOUTWOMEN AND BAD BOYS?

>> THEY'RE INCREDIBLYCHARISMATIC.

YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLETO FLOUT, MAYBE REPRESS --

>> REMEMBER THAT GIRL WHO ALMOSTMARRIED CHARLES MANSON?

AND HE EVEN SAID THISIS A LITTLE CRAZY.

HE BROKE IT UP, RIGHT?

>> HE KNEW IT WAS CRAZY.

>> IT'S A CONTROLLINGRELATIONSHIP.

SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHERE YOU'REAT ALL TIMES.

>> THAT'S HILARIOUS.

>> WHERE ARE YOU?

>> I'M IN JAIL.

I GOT 25-LIFE, BITCH,

CALM DOWN!

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WONDER WHYCHARLES MANSON'S FIANCEE BROKE

UP WITH HIM.

I'M GUESSING SHE GOOGLED HIM.

OH, YOU'RE THAT CHARLES MANSON.

>> BIGGEST SURPRISE EVER.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.