February 22, 2016 - Antonin Scalia's Death & Latino Voters

  • 02/22/2016

Conspiracy theorists sound off about the death of Antonin Scalia, and Larry discusses America's Hispanic voters with Jose Antonio Vargas, Jordan Carlos and Grace Parra.

Whew, man!

Thank you very much!

Oh, man! Oh!

-Oh! Oh, stop.-(audience chanting "Larry!")

Stop it.(chuckles)

Wow! Thank you!

Good to be back!

Welcome to The Nightly Show. I am Larry Wilmore.

Such a great crowd.

Oh! So nice. I know.

I like the little "Lar-ry!"


So, guys, with a scant 259 daysleft before Election Day,

the de-Negro-ficationof the White House

is getting closer and closer.

Closer and closer.

So let's check in to see what'shappening with the Unblackening.

(dramatic music playing)

(humming) Thank you very much.So, on Saturday,

Hillary Clinton and BernieSanders took their fierce battle

to the state of Nevada.

It was like Pacquiao-Mayweatherin Las Vegas

but with less homophobiaand more AARP eligibility.

A little bit more.


Bernie had some momentum,

but Hillary's campaign knewjust the right ointment

to treat the Bern.

Yep, looks like she won easily,and turnout was high.

But there was one keydemographic that was in dispute.

REPORTER: In a new memo, the Clinton camp is disputing

entrance polls that showed Sanders won the Latino vote

by eight points. "It is not possible

that Clinton lost the Latino vote," the campaign writes,

citing her double-digit win in the heavily Latino

Clark County, home of Las Vegas.

That's right, Latinos.

It's your turnto be fawned over, amigos.

First it was the farmersin Iowa,

then it was the peoplewho don't care if they live free

or die in New Hampshire.

South Carolina,it was all about the blacks.

And now in Nevada,pandering to Hispanics,

or as we like to call it,Hispandering.

WOMAN: Bienvenido.

Very good.(chuckles)

Thank you very much.

Here to help us understandHispandering,

-please welcomeour own Grace Parra. -Hi.

-(cheering and applause) -Thankyou, Grace. -Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi.

So, Grace,as a Mexican-American,

uh, who do you think wonthe Hispanic vote in Nevada?

Well, Larry, the questionisn't who won the Hispanic vote.

It's cómo trata de ganar cada candidato.

Yeah. Wait, what?

How does each candidate tryto win?

You see, pandering to Hispanicsis a very careful science.

You got to come at usthe right way.

We're not all one group. No somos unidos, Larry.

Right. No United States.I understood that one. Yeah.

Um, okay.

Now, uh, each group hasits own issue.

Of course, you havePuerto Ricans, you have Cubans,

you have Mexicans,Colombians, Dominicans,

Dominicans who live in CostaRica but spend some time in Cuba

but you could swearthey really look Mexican

but then you find out they'reSalvadorian. The whole thing

-blows up. -Okay, I get it,I get it, I get it. I get it.

-Yeah. Yes.-It's very complex.

Okay, so-sohow should Hispandering be...

how should it be approached?

-Well, each issueis different, Larry. -Okay.

Take, for example, immigration.Now, immigrating from Cuba

is easierthan immigrating from Mexico.

So Cubans might lovefor Trump to build a wall

and get the Mexicans to payfor it,

but Mexicans would say, "Chingate, chingate, chingate"

all night long.

I think I kind of getwhat "chingate" means right now.

-Yes. Mm-hmm.-Yeah. So-so the key is

know your audienceon immigration, right?

Oh, on-on anything.Like farming, for example.

If you use the word "plátano" tomean "banana" around Colombians,

they're gonna freak outthat you didn't say "banano."

That's what I was gonna say.You know?

So-so why not always just say "banano"?

Oh, well, because "banano" is ridiculous!

But then again, I'm Mexican.

That is nuance. Now...

See, now I can understandwhy candidates just stick

to, like, a couple of vagueimmigration talking points.

-It makes sense. -Well,that's part of the problem, too,

though. Latinos don't just careabout immigration.

We have a lot of priorities:jobs, poverty,

whether to pronounce it"Univision" or "Univisión."

-Um, I think it's "Univision."Mmm. -Well...

So you're saying if, uh,candidates want to win over

Hispanic voters, they shouldtalk to them like they're...

-Actual voters.-All right.

-Grace Parra, everyone.-(cheering and applause)

That makes sense.Thank you, Grace.


All right, so what went down

on the Republican sidein South Carolina?

Well, Trump won,and Jeb Bush pulled out.

That's what she said.


Oh, man!

Poor, brave Jeb,

Still providing laughterthrough the tears.

Now, guys, it's so sad. It is.

Jeb's campaign was doomedfrom the start.

I mean, his cynical strategywas to raise an obscene amount

of money before the primarieseven began so he could scare off

any other Republicansfor getting in the race.

It's a strategy his supportersreferred to as "shock and awe."

Right? I'm not making this up.

Yes, if that namesounds familiar,

it's because it's the same name

that W.'s failed militarystrategy for Iraq was called.

So you want people to associateyour campaign

with one of the biggestU.S. military blunders.

What was the second choice name,"Katrina"?

I mean,it doesn't even make se...

"We're gonna makesome commercials

"and we're gonna floodthe airwaves, baby!

"I'm gonna bamboozlemy opponents so bad,

"they're gonna feel like blackpeople trapped in the Superdome!


Oh, oh, what?Oh, that doesn't work?

Okay, fine.Exclamation point. Eh.


Thank you for playing the partof his staff.

-I really appreciate that.All right. -(laughter)

But Jeb's blindnessto his brother's failure

was the central problemof his campaign.

He never realized his brother'spresidency was a disaster

that Americansdid not want to return to.

Seriously, no one.

We've had enough Bushes.


Hmm. I'm not surewho that nice old lady, uh, was.

I think she had somethingvaguely to do with Bushes.

I think some...

I do, however,want to give Jeb credit

for being oneof the few adults in the GOP,

and the only candidate

who consistently calledTrump out on his bull(bleep).

But now Jeb is gone,

and the Republican party is leftwith this gentleman.

She said he's a pussy.That's terrible.



No, you're terrible, terrible.

But that's nothing, you guys.

At the final rally beforethe South Carolina primary,

Trump treated the audienceto apparently one

of his favorite bedtime storiesabout Muslims.

Can you imagine these people,

when they sit around at night,eating whatever they're eating.


Um... food,

-I think you mean food.-(laughter)

Um, but forgive me forinterrupting, Professor Trump.

Um, you were educating uson the Muslim faith.

Please continue.

Early in the century,last century,

General Pershing.Did you ever hear?

Rough guy, rough guy.

And they hada terrorism problem.

And there's a whole thingwith swine and animals and pigs,

and you know the story.Okay, they don't like that.

-MAN: What?-(quiet groaning, laughter)

Right, they're not fond of pigs,

unlike your supporterswho are in love with one.

(audience groans)

-(whispers): With you.-(laughter)

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Continue your fever dream.

He took 50 bullets,

and he dipped themin pig's blood.

And he had his menload his rifles,

and he lined up the 50 people,

and they shot 49of those people,

and the fiftieth person,he said,

"You go back to your people, andyou tell them what happened."

And anyhow,after this cute little story

about executing Muslim prisonerswith pig's blood,

he won every districtin South Carolina.

(audience groaning)

Now, I don't knowwho's scarier--

Trump or the peoplevoting for him.

I just wishthey would do me one favor.

Please stop saying

the guy who wantsto provide free public education

and universal health careis the kooky one.

-(cheers and applause)-Stop it.

Have to tell you guys.

I never thought I'd say this,but I think I miss Jeb.

Please clap.

Thanks, Jeb.We'll be right back.

(cheers and applause)

Hi, I'm Robin Thede,

keeping Black History 100for The Nightly Show.

The idea of smallpox inoculation was introduced

to America by an African slave named Onesimus.

And here's a fun fact.

After helping savecountless lives,

Onesimus' owner still made himbuy his freedom.

That's some bull(bleep)right there.

Happy Black History Month!

-(cheers and applause)-Welcome back.

Of course, the biggest storyin Washington last week

was the death of Supreme CourtJustice Antonin Scalia.

I mean, this was crazy,you guys.

The most conservative memberof the court drops dead

during the most insanecampaign season in a century.

I mean, who's writingthis presidential election,

-Shonda Rhimes?-(laughter)

I'm a little skepticalof this crazy plot twist,

and I'm not the only one.

CHARLIE ROSE: The Los Angeles Times

is looking at conspiracy theories

about the circumstances of Justice Antonin Scalia's death.

Some of them have been fueled by comments from Donald Trump.

TRUMP: They say they founda pillow on his face,

which is a pretty unusual placeto find a pillow.

(laughter and groaning)


No, it's not.

Uh, pillows actually spend mostof their time near faces.

It's kind of their main thing.

An unusual placeto find a pillow would be, like,

uh, orbiting Mars, or insidea box labeled "No pillows."


This is insane.

Why would people think therewas a plot to murder Scalia?

Okay, for more on this,we decided to check in

with our own conspiracy expert,Mike Yard, and "The Y Files."

(cheers and applause)

WILMORE:Hey, Mike. Now, Mike,

do you really think there was aconspiracy to have Scalia offed?

Of course, Larry!I mean, I'm here at the ranch,

and I've cracked this Scaliathing wide open, Larry.

Oh, my God. Really?What have you found?

Oh, come on, Wilmore!Open up your eyes!

This thing goesall the way to the top.

Okay, we're throughthe looking glass here, brother.

-Wake up, sheeple!-(laughter)

Come on!

Mike, you didn't actuallysay anything.

You're just spoutingconspiracy clichés.

Do I needto say anything, Larry?

He had a pillow over his face.Case closed!

Well, no, actually,he didn't have it over his face.

The ranch owner, JohnPoindexter, later clarified

that he meant over his head,

like between his headand the headboard.

Or is that what they want youto think, Larry?

-(laughter)-Who's "they"?


Think about it, Larry.

The ranch owneris John Poindexter.

Poindexter? Revenge of the Nerds.

Nerds, the delicious treat madeby Wonka candy company,

named after a man playedby Gene Wilder.

Gene Wilder. G.W.


George W. Bush.

Bush v. Gore, one of Scalia'smost monumental decisions!

-(laughter) -Put it together.Put it together.

-(whooping, applause)-Come on.

-Hold on a second, hold on.-We got to see.

What are you even saying?

Larry, the man was quail huntingthe day before he died.

Quail? Dan Quail?

Vice presidentof George H.W. Bush?

Bush? The '90s bandbig in the grunge scene?

Grunge? Kurt Cobain?Was he killed by Courtney Love?

-We may never know. -Wait,hold on, hold on, hold on.

-Hold on a second! No, no. -Wejust won't find... I don't know.

What does that have to dowith Antonin Scalia?

Mike, the guy wasjust a 79-year-old man

-with a historyof heart problems. -Prove it.


Wait, why do I have to provemy very believable premise,

but you don't have to proveany of the crazy (bleep)

-that you say? -Uh, that'show conspiracies work, Larry.

-Mm-mm-mm.-Fine. You know what? Fine.

-You want something provable?-Yes.

How about this?

Okay, here we go,more crazy nonsense.

-Hear me out.-All right. Okay.

John Poindexter, the billionaire-Mm-hmm.

who owns the ranchwhere Scalia was vacationing

for free when he died,was the subject

of an age discrimination casethat was never heard

by the Supreme Court becauseScalia helped vote it down.

Cut to-- Scalia's enjoyinga free vacation from this guy?

Tell me that's not messed up.

(audience jeering)

That actually is pretty(bleep) up, Mike, you're right.


-Wow. -Who's the crazy personnow, Wilmore?

Uh, I'm...

-I'm sorry I doubted you,brother, I'm sorry. -Mm-hmm.

Anyway, look, all of thisbrings me to my main point.

-Okay, what's your main point?-That Avril Lavigne is dead...


...and she was replacedby a body double in 2002.

M-Mike, that's insane.Mike Yard, everybody.

-Google it. Google it.-No. We'll be right back.

-That's all I'm saying.Google it. -Mike...

-You don't believe me?Google it. -She's not dead.

Okay, welcome back.I'm here with my panel.

First up, Nightly Show contributor, Jordan Carlos.

-Yeah!-(cheering, applause)

And Nightly Show contributor,Grace Parra.

-Hi.-(cheering, applause)

And he's a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, filmmaker,

and you can check outhis latest project, EmergingUS,

a digital platform that dealswith race, immigration

and identityin a multicultural America,

-Jose Antonio Vargas.-(applause, cheering)

-Thank you.-Hey, and for everyone at home,

join our conversation right nowon Twitter @NightlyShow

using the hashtag #Tonightly.

All right, so I wantto talk about the Latino vote.

We were talkingabout it earlier.

Huge, diverse communitythat the candidates can't seem

to figure out--'cause, I mean, you have Cubans,

Puerto Ricans,Mexicans, Dominicans--

it seems like all the Hispanicsare lumped together.

-Is that a mistake? -Well,I understand why it happens.

It's easy to streamline.But I also don't know

that presidential candidatesknow that we're different.

I'm not positivethat they are fully aware.

But the political reporters know

-that they're different,right? -Yes. Yes. Yes, yes.

I mean, you put Marco Rubioand Ted Cruz in Los Angeles,

I'm not quite surethey're gonna do all that well,

-to be perfectly honest.-Right. -Different culture.

But kind of in the same waythat they...

you know, they lumpall Asian people together.

-Yeah.-Like, I'm Filipino, right?

You see an Asian-looking personwith a Spanish name,

it means they're Filipino.

Just a little tipfrom me to you.

-And it's called colonialism.-Americans'...

Americans' head explodeat that combination.

-(laughter)-It's too... And I majored

in black studies in college andI'm gay and I'm a documentar...

WILMORE: It's, like, what is he!Stop it! He's killing me!

And... and I made a filmcalled White People for MTV.

-Yeah. -Oh, my God.-So I'm just...

I'm just trying to get peopleas uncomfortable as possible.

WILMORE: You just hate America,don't you?

No, no, no, I love America.It's just, you know, it's just,

I think this is what EmergingUS is about, right?

I think too oftenin this country--

-I mean, you see thisin political media-- -Mm-hmm.

they put us in theselittle categories in boxes,

the gay thing, the Latino thing,the black thing--

well, what ifthey all intercept...

-Yeah. -Yeah. -Yeah.-in one person?

-So then what does that mean?-And that becomes

a really big problemwhen it comes to immigration,

especially, because the waythat people immigrate from Cuba

is very different from the waymy Mexican parents immigrated.

-What is the main difference?-The main...

Well, with Cuba and Mexico,the main difference is that,

-uh, when you are on...-I mean, besides the journey.

-(laughter)-Well, it...

CARLOS:Uh, the food.

-Salsa.-A lot of it is... is in the...

-Salsa's good from allcountries, thankfully. -Salsa?

Yeah, the Cuban salsa,mm, that's different

-from the Mexican salsa.-I just meant salsa.

I meant, like, you know,the kind you eat

-with, uh, nacho chips.-Oh, right, right, right.

-But please continue. -There isa big distinction in food,

-though, which we could getinto. -Oh, boy.

I had to Googlewhat a pupusa was,

because I didn't know,when I moved to Los Angeles.

In Mexico, that's not a thing.

But, um,when it comes to immigration,

if you are Cuban and youset foot on American soil,

you immediately getexpedited status

because you're considereda refugee,

but if you're Mexican, it couldtake years if not decades.

Yeah. Decades. My momis on a 16-year waiting list

coming from the Philippines.

I haven't seen hersince I was 12.

-Really?-So it's 23 years. Yeah.

And that's-- by the way, thisis what I find so fascinating.

We talk about immigrationevery day.

Cable news, CNN, everybody.

Why can't we talk about facts?

The fastest growing undocumentedpopulation in America

-are Asian undocumented people,not Latinos. -Mm-hmm.

-Especially in California.-In California,

-in Washington state, in Texas,right? -Yeah.

And yet,people think this is, like,

a Mexican, Latino,brown border issue.

PARRA: That'sthe biggest misconception.

-A huge...-WILMORE: About undocumented?

-About undo... -Are someundocumented Asians like,

"Shh, chill out"?

-(laughter)"Calm down!" (yelling)

-"We're getting away with it!"-Actually...

-I know-- they should come out,-It's like, Ix-nay

-they should come out.-on the undocumented...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Theyshould come out, though, yes.

It's funny you said that.I used to live in New York,

and I used to goto this dry-cleaning woman,

and I started noticingshe wasn't charging me

-Mm-hmm.-for the dry-cleaning thing.

And then finally I said to her,"Oh, I looked on my credit card,

you're not charging me," she'slike, "Oh, we're the same."

I'm like, "What?"And I'm like, "Oh, I have

a lot of lawyers.Do you want a lawyer?"

-Right.-"Oh, no, no, no, no. Shh."

But we don't even talk...We don't even talk about

undocumented black people.Or a lot of undocumented...

-Wait, hold on, man, hold on.-Undocumented black people.

-What? -We were undocumentedfor a very good reason.

-We were... Uh... -A wholedifferent set of documents

-that were, uh... -No, no, no,I'm talking about...

We were brought here by force.

No, no, no, no, I'm not talkingabout that. I'm not talking

-about that.-Yeah, the documents

-were point of sale documents.-Yeah, there's-there's

-plenty of receipts.-No, I'm talking about...

Get him with another slave slam.Come on, man, come on.

Hey, don't worry about it.We don't need it.

I'm talking about... I'm talkingabout undocumented Jamaicans,

-Haitians, Nigerians.-Right, right.

That is not at all...'Cause can you imagine having

an undocumented black...undocumented black gay person?

-Yeah. -Like, how do you evenexplain that to Donald trump?

His head...Would his head just explode?

You're (bleep)with America again, okay?

-So, but-but... -Why is thereso much... Then why is there

so much attention always placedon Mexico and building the wall?

-Yeah. -Uh, proximity,just because we're close?

Because China's got a wallalready. We ain't got a wall.

Well, I mean... I really...I-I think a lot of it

has to do with, again,this is the media's failure

in trying to contextualizethis issue.

That's what we're tryingto do at #EmergingUS, right?

I'm launching this thingto better report on issues

of immigration and race.Now, here-here's the question,

though-- why are we blamingall these undocumented workers?

The economy of this countrywould collapse

without undocumented labor.

New-New York city alone, right?

-So instead of pointingat them... -Yeah.

...instead of pointing at them,why don't we...

-why don't we look atthe employers... -Right.

...who exploitall these workers?

We, as a country,are addicted to cheap labor.

I don't need to talk to youabout that, right?

-Yeah, you don't. You don'tneed... Absolutely. -I mean...

He's talking about slaves.He's talking about slaves.

-No, you're good, you're good.-We... -Yeah.

-We, as a country... -Do you...do you run a sweatshop

somewhere that I'm not sure of?

Yeah, I was gonna tell you...

Uh, Jose, I told you thatin confidence, okay?

About... my little sweatshop.

Why-why do you thinkCruz and, uh, and Rubio

don't really embrace their, uh,

their, um, Hispanic heritage?

-Whoa. They're Hispanic?-Yeah. -I know.

-They're His... -Or do they justuse it when it's convenient?

That's exactly what they do:

the-they use itwhen it's convenient.

And-and to me it's reallyupsetting, especially

when it comes to the issueof bilingualism, because

Rubio speaks perfect Spanish andhe never chooses to pull it out.

Jeb, also, Jeb Bush,speaks perfect Spanish.

And during hisentire campaign, never spoke.

-He just never cho...-Well, he had the upside down

-exclamation point a coupleof times. -That's true.

-He did. -He did. In allfairness, he did have that.

-Yeah. -I-I... I think raceis-is, uh, you know, is so...

just, important to talk aboutwhen talking about this,

because it feels like,in an attempt

-to get rich, white voters...-Yes.

...Rubio and Cruz especiallyhave alienated Latinos

to the point whereLatinos don't trust them.

We don't necessarilyeven consider them Latino,

because they haven'tembraced their heritage.

Is it gonna be a major factorin this election?

-Oh, huge. Huge.-Huge. This is the biggest...

There are-there are 27.3 millionHispanics

who are eligible to vote thisyear, more than ever before.

-More than ever before.-More than ever before.

44% are millennials,too, which is huge.

-And we're an excitable people,so... -Excitable people.

-Excitable?-Yeah, we're very excitable.

Donald Trump is the greatestmobilizer of the Latino vote,

and the Asian vote and the blackvote this country has ever seen.

And I think all of these votersare gonna turn out.

-Against him?-Against him.

-Okay. I hope so. -Yes.Absolute... Well, we'll see.

-We'll see. We'll see.-JORDAN: Oh, lord.

-Okay. We'll be right back.-Yeah.

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