August 16, 2016 - Quinta Brunson

  • 08/16/2016

Larry highlights two of his favorite Nightly Show segments and examines the anti-police riots in Milwaukee, WI, with Quinta Brunson, Franchesca Ramsey and Holly Walker.

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Welcome to the show.I'm Larry Wilmore.

Or at least I amfor the three more nights.


After that, who knows?

Who knows?

Now, here's the thing, okay,so we were gonna write...

Oh, man, we had so many plansfor tonight.

Um, we were gonna writethis big, fun show, right?

But, you know, kind of dueto the general ennui

of having just been canceled...

(sighs)general laziness...

and the fact that Sam Bee sentus, like, three cases of wine.

(cheering and applause)


Mmm. Mmm.

I have, uh... I havealready started drinking, so...

um, you may see me full frontalout on the street later,

if you know what I'm saying.Know what I'm saying?

Thank you, Sam. Sam, and telleverybody at Full Frontal

I really appreciate it.

Mmm. Mmm.

That's some basic cable wine.Mmm.

It is. Yeah. Some of the best.

So, tonight, here's whatwe thought we'd do tonight.

We thought we'd look backat two of our favorite segments.

And we s... we started offour show thinking

all the good bad racial stuffwas done already, right?

But apparently we were wrong.

And we've covered racefrom just about every angle

you can think of, right,

from out of control,barrel roll cops...

It was a pool party!

He didn't have to barrel roll.

Right? To awkwardly racistgraduations.

(groaning, shouting)

How could you not lovethat lady? Come on.

"Look who's leaving,all the black people."

Mwah. So good.

We even taught you about thecultural phenomenon that happens

when black people watcha magic trick.


Open it. Open it.


That's right. That's right.

We taught you that, man.

We taught you that.

That was us!

-(cheering and applause)-That's right.

That, of course,is called black reacting.

It's true.And once people understand

that all black peopleare scared of magic,

um..., we are on our wayto global racial harmony

is what I'm trying to say.

That's all I'm trying to say,you guys, okay?

But our favorite moment,uh, last year

was a piece we didduring the riots in Baltimore.

Uh, I sat down at a dinerwith some rival gang members

who had just called a truce.Take a look.

All right, I'm herewith some of the brothers

who are here in Baltimore,

here during all the uprising,the unrest.

Have you guys eaten? Have youlooked at the menu? Do you want

-to just order something?-I already know what I want.

Can we have a waitress in here?

All right, so, I want to knowwho brought you guys together.

Well, I knew this brothera long time.

-Uh-huh.-I knew this brother

-a long time.-How long have you known him?

About, like, four years.

-Going on four years.-Four years.

In gang time,that's, like, 18 years.

-MAN: Yeah.-Right. -MAN 2: Yeah.

-Right. Right.-Like a decade.

So, are you guys in the same

organization,or a different organizations?

No, me and him are inthe same organization.

-Same organization. Okay.-Yeah.

-They're the same, we'rethe same. -You're the same.

-You're the same.-Yup.

You're not in the organization.

-He's with us.-I'm cool with everybody.

-Right. -You're coolwith everybody, right.

-He's cool with everybody.-He's a good person.

So you guys have called a truce.

Wait. Is it a truce or a treaty?

It didn't haveto be, like, ratified

by congressor anything like that? -No.

-No. -Man, we didn't have atruce... -It's not the standard.

'Cause John Boehner'san asshole.

I'll tell you right now.

You don't have to gothrough that process.

We didn't have a truceor a treaty.

We just had men respecting menas man, and we carried it

-just like that.-Yeah.

I was walking,and we was all in a pack.

-We was walkingdown Fulton Avenues. -Uh-huh.

And one of the Blood homies--they stepped on my shoe.

And I looked at him,and I was like, "Yeah, you know,

"three days ago,I'd have hit you

in your mouth for that,"and he smiled.

-And we hugged.-And three days from now,

things might be back to normal,

-and you can hit himin his mouth again. -No.

-We're not going back.-We good. We good.

We're not going back.We're going forward.

So, that's good.The truce is good.

It's forever now, right?

-Is that what we're saying?-I mean... -As far as us.

-We can't speak for the wholecountry. -Yeah, we... yeah.

-Right. -As far as Baltimore...-We speak for us.

-What we're doing, this iswhat we're doing. -Right.

-We start with us.-Where do you guys think

the angerin the community comes from?

Where do you thinkthat comes from?

You know, the analogyI've been using

for the last coupleof days, is...

All right, you see this corner

-on this menu right here?-Mm-hmm.

-This is a corner.-That's the corner.

-Here's a person.This is you. -Right.

-All right, there's only so farback into this corner... -Wait.

...that you can push mebefore I have to push back.

-Right. -That's what happened.They pushed back.

And that's what a lot of Americacan't relate to right now.

-They don't understand thatpushback, man. -Of course not.

If you live in a million-dollarhouse, how can you relate

-to living in the hoodgetting pushed? -Yeah.

-You're good. -Right.-You're sitting on a yacht.

-So you can't understand whatwe're going through. -Mm-hmm.

Same as,when you be like, "Hey, man,

I got to pay my property tax."I can't relate to that.

-Right. -I've never paidproperty tax before.

So understand that. We just need them to understand that.

Well, let me tell you about...

I'll tell you about the angerof the property tax.


So let's say this ismy million-dollar house, okay?

-Uh-huh. -And the property taxis pushing me into this corner.

-That's when I get angry, right?-(laughing): Yeah.

-That's when I burst.-And you call a lawyer.

A lot of peoplecan't relate to that.

You call a lawyer,and you push back!

-That's exactly right. Right?-Exactly.

-And then my lawyer gets angry.-Exactly what I'm saying. Right.

-And he pushes...-And then it's a vicious cycle.

Have you guys ever stoppedsomebody from doing something?

-Yes. -Last night. -I mean, likephysically stopped somebody

-from throwing something?-Man, I whupped somebody's ass.

-Did you?-Yeah. (bleep)

The people that came up onNorth Avenue and Pennsylvania...

-WILMORE: Mm-hmm. -They're noteven from around there.

-...wasn't from there. -They'renot even from around there.

So there were people who weren'teven from around there

-that were doing things?-It was little kids.

-It was also people that was...-Mm-hmm. How old were they?

-High school. -They was in highschool, like, middle school.

-Mm-hmm. -That's...All them-- they started it.

-High school, young kids.-I saw Jon Stewart out there.

-You saw Jon Stewart out there.-Yeah.

-I'm standingin front of the store. -Right.

Me and a couple of homies.Me, him. Well...

All right, okay, Scooby,couple homies

standing in front of the store.Okay, what happened?

All right, Jon Stewartis right behind us.

Jon Stewartis right there behind.

Jon Stewart is not here.Trust me. Trust me on that.

All right, now, look, right,now we standing there.

He's nowhere to be foundin this scenario.

So the police pull upin their tank.

-They were in a tank? -Yeah.-So they threw...

-Like one of those big Humvees,right? -Yes.

Then they jumped out with theirassault rifles, and I'm like...

-Right.-..."Man, this is Call of Duty.

-"(bleep) going on here?"-Black ops?

-Black ops.-Yeah. Two.

-Black ops. Two.-White ops in this case, right.

-(laughing): White ops.-No, it's still black ops.

-It's still black ops.-Now, look. -So they jumped out.

They did. They pointedtheir guns and all that,

and then, out of nowhere, I gethit with a concussion grenade.

I get holesall in my favorite hoodie.

Yeah. He threw it towards us.

Wait. This happened last week?

This past week? You got hitwith a concussion grenade?

No, just the other day,like two days ago.

-Two days ago. -They threw itright towards him,

and we're protecting the stores.We're protecting it.

-It hit right in the ribs. -Wemaking sure there's not looting.

-And we ran through the alleyto the projects... -Mm-hmm.

...made sure everyone else wasokay, and went right back...

-Right back to that our post and linked arms

-and made sure nobody gotin that store. -Wow, wow.

They set one police car on fire,

and we stopped them from settingthe other car on fire.

Now, would you guys ever meetwith the police and, uh...

-Dude, we've talked to... -Oh,you've talked to the police?

Every day we walk rightpast them and talk to them,

ask them, "Are you good?You need water? You all right?"

What was their reaction?What was their reaction?

-They brung them food. -Oh,yeah, they did bring us food.

-They brung them food last...-They brought you food?

-Yeah, they brought...-That's nice.

I couldn't eat them sandwiches,right, because it was...

it had pork, so I had about,like, five bags of chips.

Well, I-I could doa pig joke here, but I'm not.

-(laughter) -That's allI'm saying, all right?

What isthe most surprising thing

-that's come out of all of this?-All the positive people

-coming together.-Mm-hmm.

We was for one common cause.

Like, it-it was beautiful.

Do you guys have hope?

-Of course. -Of course.-What else do we got?

Mm-hmm. You have hope, Shawn?

That's the only thing you haveto have if you want to progress.

Hold on, Sean.I think we have...

I think we have pie comingright now.

-(laughter)-Yeah. -Pie? -Pie.

Okay, uh,Sean doesn't like pork,

so make sure Seandoesn't get the pork.

Well, you guyshave really been great.

I really appreciate you havingthis conversation with me.

Um, is there any other thingthat you would like to say

either to America,to people watching this program?

Yeah, I want everybody to keeptheir hope, and stay peaceful.

-Mm-hmm.-I mean, when-when they hear

the police verdict, um...Friday, don't give up,

'cause that'snot the last investigation.

-Right. -There's a lot moreinvestigations after that.

-Right.-So keep the hope.

Are we splitting this six ways?

-I just want to knowhow we're doing this. -Yeah.

You guys don't have,like, a... like, a...

You don't have, like,a corporate credit card

that you use...?

(cheering, applause)

We'll be right back.

-(cheering, applause)-Thank you. Welcome back.

-(cheering continues)-Now, another one of our, uh...

Thank you very much. Anotherone of our favorite segments

dealt with the issueof low-income people

and their access to healthy foodin this country.

So we sent out our residentfood snob, Jordan Carlos,

to experience for himself

the phenomenon knownas a "food desert."

Ceviche de mango?

When did you guys get this in?

I'm Jordan Carlos, Nightly Show contributor

and arbiter of good taste.

I live in Brooklyn, where the finer things in life

are only a step away.

Food, to me, isn't just nourishment,

it's a way of life.

So when I heard about

a so-called "food desert,"

I knew I had to find outmore about it.

A food desert is a neighborhood

where people havevery little access

to a supermarketor a large grocery store.

You're saying a large numberof people in America

don't live near a grocery store?

80% of those food desertsare in city areas,

where people livefurther than one mile

from a grocery store

that sells fresh fruitsand vegetables.

It's-it's the age-old question:

if the grocery storewon't come to you,

why don't you justhop in your Prius

-and go to...-(laughing)

I'm sorry, is theresomething funny about this?

Okay, yeah, you know,food deserts

-are not in, you know,neighborhoods -Yes.

where people has... have Priusesor Mercedes or even...

-Okay, Volvos.-Volvos or even...

-Fine, Foresters.-Okay.

These are neighborhoods whichare primarily low-income people.

These know, the desert people

that you were saying...

This is not a real desert.

This is really a metaphor, okay?

You need to goto Camden, New Jersey.

I challenge youto find an heirloom tomato.

Challenge accepted.

Okay, deal.

Where's my Prius?

I accepted Ester's challengeand set off to Camden

to find that heirloom tomato.

Where's your organic section?

Do you guys have any,uh, farm-to-table

or free-range eggs?Anything like that?

Where would that area be?

Anyway, I guessI'll keep poking around.

FUCHS: People thought that poor people

didn't want to eat healthy foods, and it turns out

that's actually not true, it's just not there.

CARLOS: Maybe this is a little desert-esque.

Has it been a mile yet?

Damn it, I forgot my Fitbit.

Sugary cereal, sugary sugar. Where's the food?


Uh, hey, I-I-I was noticingthere's, like,

a lot of sugary snacks here.

I-I'm lookingfor the organic food.

No, no organic, j-just regular.

But why don't you haveorganic food?

Convenience store mean closer,

it don't mean thatyou have everything.

CARLOS: Why is cake mix more convenient than fresh produce?

FUCHS (echoing): I challenge you

to find an heirloom tomato

in Camden, New Jersey.

These doughnuts are processed.

They're all processed!

This cheeseis neither locally sourced

nor are these cherries(bleep) in season!

It's non... It's-it's madewith robot parts.

I-I don't even knowwhat this is.


FUCHS: You know what these kinds of diets produce for people?

You have high rates of diabetes

and high rates of obesity,

because you have to fill yourself up with cheap stuff

and all of that is empty calories and fattening.


FUCHS (echoing): So, where's the tomato now?

Oh! Oh.


(Fuchs laughing)



Just one pieceof sustainable something!

FUCHS: In the United States,

we have 13.6 million people

-living in food deserts. -(gasps)

(sobbing hysterically)


Oh! Shoot.



I'm fine.

CARLOS: Ester challenged me to walk a mile

in someone else's shoes, but I had to walk five times that far

just to get fresh produce.

I prize you above all else.

I put you inside me.

Mmm, mmm.

Oh, God, yes.

But enough talk.

Time to lie in glory with my heirloom goddess.

Mmm, mmm!




My God.


You're closing up soon?

Yeah. Got it. I'm just gonna...

I'm just getting the one.

Thank you, Jordan.

To learn more about food desertsand how you can help,

check out Hunger Free Americafor research, donation,

and volunteer opportunities.

We'll be right back.

Okay, welcome back.I'm here with my panel.

First up, Nightly Show contributor Franchesca Ramsey.

(cheers and applause)

And Nightly Show contributorHolly Walker.

(cheers and applause)

And actress, comedian,and producer for BuzzFeed,

Quinta Brunson.

(cheers and applause)

And for everyone at home,join our conversation right now

on Twitter @NightlyShow,using the hashtag #Tonightly.

Okay, tonight I want to tryto talk about two stories

dealing with race on the panel.

First one, riots, uh, broke outthis past week in Milwaukee

following the police shootingof a 23-year-old, excuse me,

black man, uh, Sylville Smith.

Um, he was shot bya black police officer.

And the cops have saidthat the guy was armed

and wouldn't put downhis loaded gun.

So why do you thinkthis particular incident

incited a riot?

RAMSEY:I think that people...

-The circumstances arekind of sketchy, -Yeah.

and we're really unsureof what to believe.

But, unfortunately, we've hadso many of these incidences,

that I think peopleare just apprehensive.

It's like if your boyfriendcheats on you a bunch of times,

and then one time when he didn'tcheat on you,

-you're like,"Hmm, I don't know." -Mm-hmm.

And if I really, like,"Did you really work late?

-"Or...-WALKER: Yeah. Yep.

-I don't know."-WILMORE: Yeah.

And so, like, maybe, maybe itwas a justified shooting,

but, like, I don't know.Y'all lie a lot.

-Yeah, pretty much.-All right.


So it's all about trustis what you're saying.

-Yeah.-Yeah, absolutely.

And it's-it's Milwaukee.

Like, have you ever beento Milwaukee?

-WILMORE: Oh.-(laughter)

It's-it's just, Milwaukee'shorrible is what you're saying?

-I mean.-Yeah. It's rough.

It's rough.It's rough.

-It's rough,it's a little rough. -I think...

I think the problem now is thatjustice is like the last resort.

And that should not be the case.

That should be expected.

Justice should be expected,

but no one expects it now.

Not just black peopleand not just, like...

It's just not expected.

So now we needto see the camera.

We need to talk to the cousin.

We need to talk to a witness.

Was there a cat on the scene?

Can someone tell uswhat actually happened,

so we can get somereal information?

-I don't trust cats.-No.

-I don't. I'm sorry.-Dog people. -And I...

And I do believethat it will make a difference

to sane people,

but people who just want to riotbecause they want to riot,

it's not going to makea difference to them,

'cause they... they were goingto take that couch anyway.

WILMORE (laughing):Right.

And they're not going to makea statement afterwards

-and go like, "My bad, my bad."-RAMSEY: Right.

I know. There-there arehonorable protesters

and then there are lootingopportunists, right?

That's exactly right.

-"I hope there's a riottonight!" -Yeah.


"I stretched and everything,-RAMSEY: Right.

-and I'm ready for this one."-WILMORE: I know. It's sad.

I'm always sad when you seethings burn down.

Like the guy at the gas station.

He didn't... what did he do?

-That's his gas station.-Exactly.

And why are looters burning downthings that we need?

-WILMORE: Fuel!-Wh... no, seriously.

Fuel and like the CVSs.

Why aren't they going for the,for the yoga studios?

-You know what I mean?-(laughter)


-Exactly.-(cheering and applause)

"I got your, I gotyour downward dog right here!"


WILMORE:Whoa, why are you doing that?

All right. Let me get one more,one more story real quick.

I know we're almost out of time,so...

This other story, two studentsat a Claremont College

in California, requested to livewith P-O-C only,

in efforts to createa safe space.

Now, for all of you notin the know,

that's people of color, okay?

Some people think it's racist,

and some people thinkyou shouldn't have to live

with white peopleif you don't want to. Um...

(cheers and applause)

-Oh, my God!-(cheering)

I can't believe that reaction!

That's hilarious.

-Hold on, hold on, audience.-There's a lot of white people

-in the audience clappingright now. -I know.

White people are like,"Yes, make that choice."

-Yeah. There you go.-Make that choice.

This is straight... hold up.

-This is straight-up bigotry.-Yeah.

-Yes.-This is straight-up.

-That's not a safe space.-Yeah, this is.

You know, the best time...the best way to get comfortable

with someoneis to have them as...

-The people that... toget to know them, right?

the people that I want to livewith are also P.O.C.--

people of credit.You need to have...

-People of credit, right.-...good credit.

(cheering, applause)

Then you can live with me.Other than that...

-I mean, come on.-And that's legal. That's legal.

I understand thatsome people feel the need,

if they've had negativeexperiences in the past,

especially for marginalizedpeople who have lived in a world

that has always kept themout of certain spaces...

No, but Franchesca, we'retalking about college students.

-We're talking about...-I... I'm not saying...

No, no, no, we're talking...No, no, no, but this is

so (bleep) up. It's P.O.C.--it is-- because...

-I love it when you've beendrinking wine. -Thi...

-I love it. -No, this...Yeah, I'll drink some more.

-Hold on a second.-He's like... (grunts)

-(cheering, applause)-No... -'Cause you're like...

No. Number one, number one,it's the last week.

You know I don't give a (bleep),and I never do anyway.

-Yes. Yes, yes, yes.-Yes.

I promised the audienceI'd keep it 100.

White people are the only peopleexcluded in this.

That's straight-up (bleep) up.

Yes, it is. It is bigotry.That's exactly what it is.

I don't think that's the answer.And I think it's prejudice

borne out of fear. And thenshe posted it on Facebook,

-I believe.-RAMSEY: Yeah. -WILMORE: Yeah.

-Hmm. -RAMSEY: And that was kindof... that's where she...

that's where she screwed up.Like, putting it out there.

That's one of those things thatyou say to yourself, like,

"We ain't consideringthis white girl."

-But putting it on your Face...-No!

I'm just sayingif... I... Listen,

-it's your home... -But no,Franchesca, that's still wrong.

-I'm saying that if you want todecide... -No, that's-that's

what's happened to usthe whole time was this:

-BRUNSON: Right. -"We ain'thaving those niggers in here."

-That's exactly what happenedto us. -I-I think that

-there's a difference in the...-No! Not in this case.

Well, then-then don't livewith... I'm just saying, like,

if I want to make a spacefor myself, I'm... I don't think

it was smart for herto put it on her Facebook page.

-No! No. -But I think thatin the same way... -No.

in the same way a woman says sheonly wants a female roommate,

-I still think... -Gender'sdifferent. Gender's different.

I think think that that fairfor a woman to say she wants

-(applause) -a female roommate.Yes, clap louder!

No, no. Don't do that.Don't do that.

-Yeah, yeah, do it. -No, don'tdo that. Gender's different.

-Gender's different.-Can I point something out?

How am I supposed to...I don't know,

what-what's a fun ra...Lebanese, right?

-A Lebanese person comes...-What's a fun ethnicity?

-Yeah, like, Lebanese is...-That's very fun.

-It's one of those ones...-They are very fun.

Fun in the way that sometimesI see a Lebanese person

and I'm like, "What are you,who are you? What's..."

I don't-I don'treally know off the bat.

So how am I supposedto make the blanket statement

that, like, uh,that I only want P.O.C.?

What if a person comesto my door who looks white...

-And they're more white-passing.-They look white.

And I'm like, you know, yeah,come on in or don't come on in.

I just think... That's whyI think race is a little bit

more fluid. Like, I thinkit's just kind of weird

to just... It's not weird.It makes sense,

-but why is it posted onFacebook? -No, all I can say...

Anybody who says this,clearly, inside their head

is not a safe space.That's all I can say, okay?

We'll be right back.

-♪ -(cheering, applause)