August 18, 2015 - Hillary Clinton and Black Lives Matter

  • 08/18/2015

Black Lives Matter activists Daunasia Yancey and Julius Jones visit The Nightly Show, and Larry discusses the movement's endgame with Lil Duval, Christina Greer and Mike Yard.

>> Larry: WELCOME TO "THENIGHTLY SHOW."

MAN!

WHAT A GREAT-LOOKING CROWD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH -- IAPPRECIATE SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S

JUST A COUPLE PEOPLE --"LARRY... OH."

(LAUGHTER)

I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THE"LARRY, LARRY."

(LAUGHTER)

IT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

(APPLAUSE)

SAD TO BRING THIS UP --

WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR AWHILE ABOUT THE BLACK LIVES

MATTER MOVEMENT, AND THEY'VEBEEN TALKING A LOT AS WELL.

SOME MEMBERS RECENTLY TOOK THEMIC FROM BERNIE SANDERS, NOT

ALLOWING HIM TO SPEAK.

OTHERS HECKLED JEB BUSH.

MARTIN O'MALLEY GOT A LITTLETASTE.

AND I HEAR THEY HAD EVERYINTENTION TO INTERRUPT TOP

SECRET CANDIDATE BOBBY JINDAL--

(LAUGHTER)

BUT NO ONE COULD FIND HIM.

IN FACT, IF ANYBODY'S SEEN BOBBYJINDAL, PLEASE CALL 212-555-

YOU'RE-RUNNING-FOR-PRESIDENT.

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

JUST TRYING TO HELP A BROTHEROUT.

OKAY.

(LAUGHTER)

OKAY.

NOW, YOU ALWAYS HEAR POLITICIANSSAYING THEY WANT TO HAVE A

CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE.

YEAH.

(LAUGHTER)

BUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVETHAT CONVERSATION, THINGS TEND

TO GET A LITTLE AWKWARD.

>> NEW VIDEO REVEALS WHATHAPPENED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS

WHEN HILLARY CLINTON AND MEMBERSOF BLACK LIVES MATTER MET ON THE

CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

>> Larry: OOH!

A VIDEO!

(LAUGHTER)

YEAH.

THIS IS GOING TO BE JUICY.

ALL RIGHT.

TO HELP ME NAVIGATE THROUGHTHIS, FROM HRC HEADQUARTERS IS

HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGNOFFICIAL CARLOS JORDANSON.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

>> Larry: CARLOS, WELCOME TO THESHOW.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

AND ALL THE WAY FROMBLACK HEADQUARTERS, PLEASE

WELCOME "NIGHTLY SHOW"CONTRIBUTOR HOLLY WALKER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

SO HOLLY, YOU'RE AT BLACKHEADQUARTERS?

>> YES.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: WHAT ARE YOU DOINGTHERE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> I'M HERE TO MONITOR HOW THEBLACK VOTE IS RESPONDING TO

HILLARY WHEN SHE'S CONFRONTEDABOUT RACE, USING THE

STATE-OF-THE-ART NWA.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: NWA?

>> YES, LARRY.

THE NEGROMETRIC WAVEACCELERATOR.

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: OH.

OKAY.

I NEVER HEARD OF THAT.

>> YEAH.

AND SO FAR, HER NUMBERS AREUNDERWATER.

(LAUGHTER)

AND I'M NOT GETTING MY HAIRWET TO GO SAVE HER.

>> Larry: OKAY.

(LAUGHTER)

I GET IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHY DON'T WELOOK AT THE FIRST CLIP?

>> OKAY.

>> AMERICA'S FIRST DRUG IS FREEBLACK LABOR AND TURNING BLACK

BODIES INTO PROFIT.

>> MM-HMM.

>> AND THE MASS INCARCERATIONSYSTEM MIRRORS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE

THE PRISON PLANTATION SYSTEM.

>> MM-HMM.

(LAUGHTER)

>> OKAY, LARRY, I WANT TO STOPIT RIGHT HERE.

>> Larry: OKAY.

>> I'VE JUST SEEN A SPIKE IN THEMETER.

>> Larry: REALLY?

>> YEAH.

I'M GOING TO ATTRIBUTE IT TOHILLARY'S "MM-HMMs."

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: WAIT, HER "MM-HMMs"?

>> MM-HMM.

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: OKAY.

WHAT DID YOU NOTICE?

>> YEAH.

WELL, THEY STARTED OFF NERVOUS.

BUT NOW SHE'S DOING EXACTLY WHATBLACK PEOPLE LIKE, LETTING

SOMEBODY KNOW WHAT YOU'RETHINKING BY MAKING AN

AFFIRMATIVE NOISE.

>> Larry: MM-HMM!>> MM-HMM.

(LAUGHTER)

>> EXACTLY.

EXACTLY.

(APPLAUSE)

>> LARRY, I'D LIKE TO TAKECREDIT FOR THIS, IF I MAY.

>> Larry: SURE.

>> THIS WAS ALL PART OF OUR"MM-HMM" ROLLOUT.

(LAUGHTER)

HILLARY IS REACHING THE BLACKCOMMUNITY ONE "MM-HMM" AT A

TIME.

>> Larry: OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO JUMPFORWARD A LITTLE BIT.

THERE WAS A VERY AWKWARD MOMENTAFTER THEY MADE IT CLEAR TO

HILLARY AFTER THEY HELD HERRESPONSIBLE FOR THE MASS

INCARCERATIONS OF BLACK MEN INTHE '90s BASED ON THE CRIME

BILL IN 1994 THAT HER HUSBANDSIGNED AND SHE CHAMPIONED.

>> HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY FEELTHAT'S DIFFERENT THAN YOU DID

BEFORE?

FOR A MOMENT OF REFLECTION ONHOW WE TREAT BLACK PEOPLE IN

THIS COUNTRY?

>> MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

>> I JUST WANT TO -- AND IAPOLOGIZE -- IN -- IN -- WE

HAVE --

>> I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO ALLOWHER TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

>> Larry: WHOA!

WHAT IS HER HANDLER DOING?

LET HER TALK!

LET HER TALK!

IS SHE GOING TO GET OUT OF --THIS IS SOME [ BLEEP ], LARRY.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: WAIT.

HOLD UP --

CARLOS, YOU'RE AT HILLARY'SHEADQUARTERS.

IS THIS [ BLEEP ]?

(LAUGHTER)

>> THAT WAS CLASSIC TALK-BLOCK!

(LAUGHTER)

NICELY DONE, NEIL.

(LAUGHTER)

THAT WAS SO CLOSE.

(LAUGHTER)

HILLARY WAS ABOUT TO ACTUALLYANSWER A QUESTION OFF THE CUFF.

WOO!

CRISIS AVOIDED.

(LAUGHTER)

>> NO, NO, NO.

SHE NEEDS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONIF SHE EXPECTS TO BE PRESIDENT!

>> SPEAKING OF PRESIDENTS, BLACKLIVES MATTER, PEOPLE, YOU HAVE

ONE RIGHT NOW, IN THE WHITEHOUSE!

GO BOTHER HIM!

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: OKAY, GUYS.

WAIT!

COME ON!

>> Larry: HOLD ON NOW, CALMDOWN.

ACTUALLY, HILLARY DID HAVE ACHANCE TO ANSWER, SO LET'S TAKE

A LOOK.

>> -- ALL I'M SAYING IS YOURANALYSIS IS TOTALLY FAIR.

IT'S HISTORICALLY FAIR.

IT'S PSYCHOLOGICALLY FAIR.

IT'S ECONOMICALLY FAIR.

>> I FEEL A "BUT" COMING ON.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: IS SHE GOING TO "BUT"THIS, CARLOS?

>> TECHNICALLY, LARRY, I LIKE TOREFER TO IT AS AS

SENTENCE-TWERKING.

>> Larry: OH.

(LAUGHTER)

OKAY.

>> BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TOCOME TOGETHER AS A MOVEMENT AND

SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT DONEABOUT IT.

BECAUSE YOU CAN GET LIP SERVICEFROM AS MANY WHITE PEOPLE AS YOU

CAN PACK INTO YANKEE STADIUM ANDA MILLION MORE LIKE IT WHO ARE

GOING TO SAY, OH, WE GET IT.

WE GET IT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE NICER.

OKAY?

THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

>> YES!

YES!

YANKEE STADIUM FILLED WITH WHITEPEOPLE!

(LAUGHTER)

THAT'S A METAPHOR.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: I'M NOT SURE THAT'SA METAPHOR.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE ACTUALTHING.

(LAUGHTER)

HOLLY, HOW DID THAT SOUND BITEREGISTER ON THE NEGROMETRIC WAVE

DO-HICKEY?

>> WHOA, SHE'S SPIKING.

THIS KIND OF DATA USUALLYINDICATES BLACK PEOPLE ARE

EXPECTING A FIGHT TO BREAK OUT.

(LAUGHTER)

SERIOUSLY, LARRY.

THESE ARE "REAL HOUSEWIVES OFATLANTA" NUMBERS.

>> Larry: WOW.

(LAUGHTER)

THAT'S HUGE.

IT DOES APPEAR THAT HILLARYSEEMS TO BE NOT BACKING

DOWN.

LET'S WATCH SOME MORE.

>> I SAY THIS AS RESPECTFULLY ASI CAN, BUT IF YOU DON'T TELL

BLACK PEOPLE WHAT WE NEED TO DO,THEN WE WON'T TELL YOU ALL WHAT

YOU NEED TO DO.

>> I'M NOT TELLING YOU.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU TO TELL ME.

>> Larry: OH!

(LAUGHTER)

[ AUDIENCE OHs ]

>> MAN!

WHAT?!

>> -- RESPECTFULLY IF THAT ISYOUR POSITION, THEN I WILL TALK

ONLY TO WHITE PEOPLE.

>> Larry: OH!

OH!

[ AUDIENCE OOHs ]

>> NO!

>> OH, MAN!

>> Larry: WHAT'S HAPPENING ONTHE METER, HOLLY?

>> OH, MY GOSH!

THESE NUMBERS ARE OFF THECHARTS, LARRY!

THESE ARE WORLD STAR NUMBERS.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: OKAY.

OKAY.

QUIET DOWN!

ARE YOU OKAY, CARLOS?

>> I'M FINE.

MY ULCER IS A LITTLE --

>> Larry: OKAY.

MAN!

>> Larry: LET'S SEE HOW IT ENDS.

>> LOOK, I DON'T BELIEVE YOUCHANGE HEARTS.

I BELIEVE YOU CHANGE LAWS.

YOU CHANGE ALLOCATION OFRESOURCES.

YOU CHANGE THE WAY SYSTEMSOPERATE.

YOU MAY ACTUALLY CHANGE SOMEHEARTS, BUT IF THAT'S ALL THAT

HAPPENS, WE'LL BE BACK HERE INTEN YEARS HAVING THE SAME

CONVERSATION.

>> Larry: WOW, I DON'T THINKI'VE EVER HEARD HILLARY TALK

LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, SO DIRECT AND AUTHENTIC.

GUYS?

YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> SORRY, LARRY.

THE NEGROMETRIC WAVE ACCELERATORDOESN'T MEASURE AUTHENTICITY.

(LAUGHTER)

IT ONLY MEASURES [ BLEEP ] THATBLACK PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF

HEARING FROM POLITICIANS.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: MAKES SENSE.

CARLOS?

>> SORRY, I GOT NOTHING.

>> LARRY, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAYTHIS IS ALL PART OF A CAREFULLY

ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN I CAME UPWITH CALLED "AUTHENTICITY

AUGUST."

(LAUGHTER)

IT CONTINUES THIS WEEKEND INIOWA WHEN HILLARY WILL

"ACCIDENTALLY" GET STUCK INA WELL.

THERE'S NO WELL.

(LAUGHTER)

>> OH!

LOOKS LIKE THE METER'S WORKINGAGAIN.

>> Larry: OKAY, THANKS FORCHIMING IN, GUYS.

WE'LL SEE IF THIS UNSCRIPTEDHILLARY'S GOING TO LAST.

BUT FOR ONE NIGHT INNEW HAMPSHIRE AT LEAST, HILLARY

WENT BEHIND CURTAIN AND FINALLYLIFTED THE VEIL.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

AS YOU SAW EARLIER IN THE SHOW,MEMBERS OF THE BLACK LIVES

MATTER MOVEMENT CONFRONTEDHILLARY CLINTON BACKSTAGE IN

NEW HAMPSHIRE LAST WEEK.

JOINING ME NOW ARE TWO OF THEPEOPLE YOU SEE IN THAT VIDEO.

SO PLEASE WELCOME TO THE SHOWDAUNASIA YANCEY AND JULIUS

JONES.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

HEY.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

THANK YOU, HAVE A SEAT.

THAT'S RESPONSIVE.

SO FINALLY, WE GOT BLACK LIVESMATTER ON THE SHOW.

(LAUGHTER)

I NEED TO ASK YOU GUYS, SOPEOPLE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT

YOUR METHODS OF DISRUPTION.

THAT'S THE WORD THAT'S BEINGUSED OUT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WHY DO YOUTHINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO MAKE

WHITE PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> WELL, THE -- WHEN WE'RETALKING ABOUT RACE IN THIS

COUNTRY --

>> Larry: THAT'S WHAT THEYMEAN BY DISRUPTION.

(LAUGHTER)

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

(APPLAUSE)

>> YEAH.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RACE INTHIS COUNTRY, THAT'S OFTEN WHAT

HAPPENS, RIGHT?

IS PEOPLE GET UNCOMFORTABLE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TOPURSUE THAT DISCOMFORT TO REALLY

GET TO THE ROOT ISSUES AND TOGET TO THE ROOT SOLUTION.

>> Larry: RIGHT.

AND WHITE PEOPLE HEAR ROOTS,THEY ALREADY GET --

(LAUGHTER)

--ALREADY CAUSING PROBLEMS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS FOLLOWTHE NEWS BUT THIS THERE'S NICE

OLD WHITE GENTLEMAN WHO WASGOING TO MAKE A LITTLE SPEECH

AND COUPLE OF BLACK LADIESTHOUGHT THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

>> MM-HMM, MM-HMM.

>> Larry: AND THERE WAS A LOT OFFLACK BECAUSE OF THAT ON BOTH

SIDES.

SO WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH BLACKLIVES MATTER MOVEMENT AND THE

PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT?

BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULDBE A NATURAL ALLY.

>> MM.

>> Larry: BUT A LOT OF PEOPLETHOUGHT, WHAT'S GOING ON?

WHY ARE THEY TWEAKING THEPROGRESSIVE PART OF THE PARTY?

DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT?

>> AS FAR AS THAT -- SOMETIMESIN YOUR FRIENDSHIPS, PEOPLE ARE

TRYING TO FORM -- YOU KNOW, YOUAND YOUR FRIEND CAN BE REALLY

HONEST WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT?

AND YOU CAN SAY, I LIKE YOU, ILOVE YOU, BUT I THINK YOU'RE

ACTING UP, RIGHT?

BUT IN THIS CASE, WITH BERNIESANDERS, WITH ALL THE OTHER

DEMOCRATIC NOMINEES, RIGHT?

THEY ARE NOT SHOWING UP FORBLACK LIVES, EVEN -- THE

MOVEMENT IS HAPPENING.

IT'S LIVE.

IT'S REAL.

IT'S LIKE WE ARE PUSHING THENEEDLE.

AND FOLKS ARE NOT SHOWING UP INREAL ENOUGH WAYS.

BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS, FORAS MUCH AS HE WAS WALKING WITH

MLK, HE AIN'T WALKING THAT WALKNOW.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: AND AS FAR AS YOU'RECONCERNED, EVEN IF SOMEONE IS AN

ALLY, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURETHEY'RE OUR CURRENT ALLY, IS

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,RIGHT?

>> ACCOUNTABILITY.>> ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> Larry: I HEARD SOMEBODY CLAPABOUT THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.

(LAUGHTER)

WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE INTHE NEXT ELECTION?

ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR ALLIESOUT THERE?

IS IT LEGISLATION?

LET'S IMAGINE 18 MONTHS FROMNOW.

IT'S THE INAUGURAL ADDRESS.

PRESIDENT HUCKABEE IS GIVING ASPEECH.

(LAUGHTER)

[ AUDIENCE BOOs ]

OKAY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GIVING ASPEECH.

[BOOING CONTINUES]

AND HE SAYS, ALSO FOR BLACKPEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO -- WHAT

DO YOU WANT TO HEAR?

>> I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BEADDED TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF

PRESIDENT LIKE ECONOMICUNDERSTANDING, FOREIGN POLICY

UNDERSTANDING.

NEEDS TO BE ADDED RACIALANALYSIS.

WE LIVE IN A PLURALISTICSOCIETY.

WE'RE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.

THESE FOLKS, WHEN THEY'RECONFRONTED WITH BLACK LIVES

MATTER, ALL THEY CAN SAY IS ALLLIVES MATTER.

WHICH ON ITS FACE IT SEEMS LIKEA VERY VALID RESPONSE, RIGHT?

BUT ACTUALLY, IT'S A VIOLENTRESPONSE BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME

YOU HEAR IT IS IN RESPONSE WHENSOMEONE SAYS BLACK LIVES MATTER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: GET YOUR OWN SLOGAN.

>> YEAH.

>> Larry: OKAY.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

WHERE DO YOU SEE -- NOW, WE HAVEA BLACK PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A VERY HISTORIC COUPLE OFELECTIONS.

WHERE DO YOU HOLD OBAMAACCOUNTABLE IN ALL THIS?

DO YOU HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE?

ARE YOU HOLDING HIS FEET TO THEFIRE IN THIS?

DO YOU THINK THERE'S EXTRARESPONSIBILITY FOR HIM?

>> I THINK RIGHT NOW THE FOCUSOF THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE,

RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY, OBAMA ISACCOUNTABLE.

NO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITEDSTATES HAS EVER STOOD UP FOR

BLACK LIVES IN A SIGNIFICANT ANDREAL EFFECTIVE WAY.

AND HE'S NO DIFFERENT TO BEQUITE HONEST.

>> Larry: DO YOU THINK HIS BLACKSIDE IS MORE ACCOUNTABLE THAN

HIS WHITE SIDE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEREVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT STUFF

WENT DOWN.

>> Larry: DO I REMEMBER?

(LAUGHTER)

ABSOLUTELY.

>> SO AFTER THAT, HE GAVE THISLIKE REALLY IMPASSIONED SPEECH

WHERE HE SHOWED EXACTLY HOWNUANCE AND UNDERSTANDING OF RACE

WAS, AND THEN IT WENT AWAY.

>> Larry: YEAH.

HE PUT IT LIKE IN THAT LASTSCENE IN THE "RAIDERS OF THE

LAST ARC."

HE JUST HID IT AWAY, BACK I THATVAULT.

AND BROUGHT IT UP NOW BECAUSEOBAMA DON'T GIVE A [ BLEEP ].

(LAUGHTER)

ONE LAST QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS -- ANDPLEASE SAY YES -- DO YOU HAVE

ANY PLANS TO DISRUPT TRUMP'SCAMP --

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> ALL OF THE PRESIDENTIALCANDIDATES -- YES.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

I'M HERE WITH MY PANEL.

"NIGHTLY SHOW" CONTRIBUTOR MIKEYARD.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

YOU CAN CATCH HIM THIS WEEKENDAT THE FLORIDA THEATER IN

JACKSONVILLE, COMEDIAN LILDUVAL.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

AND SHE'S AN ASSISTANT PROFESSORAT FORDHAM UNIVERSITY, CHRISTINA

GREER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUTHILLARY'S MEETING LAST WEEK WITH

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

SO I WANT TO ASK YOU, AS JUSTTHE REGULAR PEOPLE OUT THERE IN

THE WORLD, DO YOU THINK BLACKLIVES MATTER IS GETTING THROUGH?

>> I THINK SO.

BECAUSE THEY ARE A FORCE TO BERECKONED WITH.

I REALLY DO THINK THE THREEWOMEN WHO FOUNDED BLACK LIVES

MATTER DESERVE A NOBEL PEACEPRIZE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

IT'S BECOME, NOT JUST A DOMESTICMOVEMENT, IT'S IT A GLOBAL

MOVEMENT, AND THEY'RE VERY CLEARTHAT IT'S REALLY ABOUT GOING AT

THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM.

IT'S REALLY SLOW AND STEADY.

THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENTSINCE 2012 WITH THE DEATH OF

TRAYVON -- THE MURDER OFTRAYVON MARTIN, RIGHT?

AND THE APPEAL -- EXACTLY.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: YOU'RE OUT THERE INTHE CLUBS.

WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE?

DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE AREFEELING IT OUT THERE, THE PEOPLE

THAT YOU TALK TO, THAT KIND OFTHING, OR DOES IT --

>> THEY'RE FEELING IT THROUGHMEMES.

(LAUGHTER)

IF YOU PUT IN A MEME--

>> Larry: THAT'S HOW WE DEALWITH EVERYTHING.

(LAUGHTER)

WHAT ABOUT THE DISRUPTIONPART, MIKE?

HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK THATIS?

ESPECIALLY -- BECAUSE WE TALKEDABOUT THE BERNIE SANDERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WEREPISSED OFF ABOUT THAT.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

>> I THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

YOU GOT TO DISRUPT.

NOBODY -- NO CHANGE IN AMERICAHAS EVER OCCURRED WITH PEOPLE

BEING NICE.

IT DON'T HAPPEN.

(LAUGHTER)

DID YOU HEAR MARTIN LUTHER KING?

MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS NOT NICE.

MARTIN LUTHER KING DID NOT GO,"HEY, FELLAS, I HAVE A DREAM, I

WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUTIT?"

NO, HE GOES, "I HAVE A DREAM!"

>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT IMPORTANTABOUT THIS MOVEMENT, THOUGH, IS

THEY REREJECTING THIS POLITICSRESPECTABILITY.

WHAT WE SEE IN BLACK AMERICAAND WITH A LOT OF ELECTED

OFFICIALS WHERE WE'RE SLOW ANDSTEADY AND IF WE'RE NICE ENOUGH,

MAYBE WE'LL CHANGE SOME MINDSAND HEARTS, AND MAYBE WE'LL

CHANGE SOME POLICY.

WHAT THEY'RE ESENTIALLY SAYINGIS, NO, ACTUALLY THE TIME IS

NOW, ACTUALLY THE TIME ISYESTERDAY.

>> Larry: IS THERE A TIME WHENIT BECOMES RESPECTABLE, WE HAVE

A MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENTWHOEVER THE PRESIDENT IS AND WE

TALK ABOUT POLICY?

AND WHAT'S THE ULTIMATEOBJECTIVE?

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGUREOUT, TOO.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHATDOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN WE GET

SOMETHING?

>> WELL --

>> Larry: BESIDES PEOPLE NOTDYING.

>> BUT THAT'S A HUGE -- ISN'TTHAT A HUGE START?

IT'S LIKE STOP MURDERING US.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: BUT THAT'S -- I DON'TTHINK THAT'S A START.

WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR ALONG TIME.

>> YEAH.

BUT I --

>> Larry: I THINK WE HAVE TOGET BEYOND THE WORDS IS WHAT I'M

TALKING ABOUT.

I'M TIRED OF SAYING "STOP, STOP,STOP."

I SAY IT ON MY SHOW EVERY NIGHT.

WHAT IS TANGIBLE -- WHAT IS TANGIBLE ACTION?

>> I REALLY THINK WE NEED TOWORRY ABOUT OURSELVES FIRST AND

GET OURSELF TOGETHER.

(APPLAUSE)

AND THEN ONCE WE GET OURSTUFF TOGETHER, THEN WE CAN

WORRY ABOUT -- IT'S LIKE INTHE STREET.

THERE'S ALWAYS KILLERS OUTTHERE.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE IN YOUR OWNHOUSE AND SAY, LOOK, THEY OUT

THERE KILLING.

THIS IS HOW YOU HANDLE IT.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

ONCE WE GET OURSELF TOGETHER,THEN WE CAN --

(LAUGHTER)

(TAKING OVER EACH OTHER)

>> Larry: SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYINGIS CRIMINALS SHOULD STOP

KILLING?

>> YEAH, CRIMINALS SHOULD STOPKILLING.

(LAUGHTER)

>> REGULAR PEOPLE'S LIVESMATTERS.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU THATWE NEED TO DEFINITELY CLEAN UP

SOME STUFF THAT GOES ON IN OURNEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO THAT,BUT THAT DOES NOT LET THEM OFF

THE HOOK.

>> NO, IT DON'T.

>> IT DOESN'T.

AND I THINK WHAT BLACK LIVESMATTER IS TRYING TO DO IS TRYING

TO FORCE AMERICA TO LIVE UP TOITS PROMISE, MAN.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED THESAME.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

I WANT TO BE ABLE -- YOU KNOWWHAT I MEAN?

YEAH!

I DON'T WANT -- IF I ASK THECOP, WHY ARE YOU ARRESTING ME

THAT I MIGHT GET SHOT.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHTTHAT I HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEYTRYING TO ARGUE.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: GO AHEAD.

>> I ALSO THINK BECAUSE ICOMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH

EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.

(LAUGHTER)

BUT I ALSO THINK --

(LAUGHTER)

>> SO DO I.

>> BUT I REALLY DO THINK WECAN DO THIS.

WE CAN SEE THAT BLACK LIVESMATTER MOVING INTO A POLICY

PRESCRIPTION PIECE AND THEY'REHOLDING ELECTED OFFICIALS AND

FUTURE ELECTED OFFICIALSACCOUNTABLE.

THEY WANT THEM TO SAY THINGS ONTHE RECORD SO THAT IF AND WHEN

THEY GET ELECTED, THEY HAVE TOFOLLOW THROUGH.

>> Larry: RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN APOLITICIAN SAYS SOMETHING THAT

THEY DO IT.

>> RIGHT.

AND WHEN PEOPLE -- BUT WHENPEOPLE ARE WATCHING THEM, THEY

DO IT.

THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE VOTERFATIGUE AND WE HAVE APATHY AND

PEOPLE DON'T WATCH THEIR ELECTEDOFFICIALS.

THEY PUNCH IN EVERY FOUR YEARSAND THEN JUST GO AWAY.

SO THE CONSTANT PRESSURE IS SUCHA SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE OF THIS

MOVEMENT.

THEY HAVE NOT LET UP.

THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE OCCUPYWALL STREET, IN MY OPINION.

>> Larry: THIS ISN'T GOING TOGET DOUCHEY LIKE OCCUPY WALL

STREET.

(LAUGHTER)

>> OCCUPY WALL STREET WENT INDOORS WHEN IT GOT COLD.

>> Larry: THEY GOT A LITTLE TOODOUCHEY.

>> THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEYWANTED, WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GET SHOT BY THECOPS ANYMORE.

>> Larry: OURS IS VERY SIMPLE!

(LAUGHTER)

STOP SHOOTING US, POLICEMEN!

STOP IT.

>> Larry: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

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