November 11, 2013 - Peter Baker

  • 11/11/2013

"60 Minutes" anchor Lara Logan apologizes for her flawed Benghazi story, and "Days of Fire" author Peter Baker discusses George W. Bush's rocky relationship with Dick Cheney.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: WELCOME TO THE

"REPORT," GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITHUS.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

(AUDIENCE CHANTING "STEPHEN")LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOLKS, IF

YOU WATCH THE SHOW-- AND I HOPEYOU DO-- DO YOU KNOW THAT WE AT

"THE REPORT" ARE LASER FOCUSEDON THE TRUTH.

AND THAT MEANS OBSESSIVE FACTCHECKING.

WE CHECK EVERY EPISODE AND IF WEFIND A FACT, WE REPLACE IT WITH

THE TRUTH.

(LAUGHTER)UNFORTUNATELY, FOLKS, NOT ALL

NEWS ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE AREUP TO OUR STANDARDS.

THERE IS A SCANDAL TEARING APARTCBS NEWS, HOME OF EDWARD R.

MURROW, WALTER CRONKITE ANDJULIE CHEN.

(LAUGHTER)SEEN HERE REPORTING ON THE

"PIRATES OF PENZANCE."

(LAUGHTER)YOU SEE, TWO WEEKS AGO, CBS

NEWS' THE "60 MINUTES" TOOK TIMEOFF FROM DOING IN-DEPTH BUDDY

CURLS WITH WOLVERINE TO BLOW THELID OFF BENGHAZI-GATE.

WHEN THE ATTACKS IN LIBYAOCCURRED, "60 MINUTES" WAS ON

THE SCENE WITHIN MINUTES OF 13MONTHS LATER.

(LAUGHTER)OF COURSE, FOX NEWS HAS BEEN

WORKING THIS STORY FOR A YEAR,HAVING DEFINITIVELY PROVEN THAT

TRAGEDY SOMETHING SOMETHINGSOMETHING HILLARY CLINTON.

(LAUGHTER)THE ONE THING THEY DID NOT HAVE,

THE ONE THING THEY LACKED WAS ANEYEWITNESS.

WELL, TWO WEEKS AGO, THE "60MINUTES" INTERVIEWED SECURITY

CONTRACTOR MORGAN JONES.

>> MORGAN JONES' JOB WASTRAINING THE UNARMED GUARDS WHO

MANNED THE COMPOUND'S GATES.

A SECOND LIBYAN FORCE, AN ARMEDMILITIA HIRED BY THE STATE

DEPARTMENT, WAS SUPPOSED TODEFEND THE COMPOUND IN THE EVENT

OF AN ATTACK.

>> I WAS SAYING THESE GUYS ARENO GOOD, YOU NEED TO GET THEM

OUT OF HERE.

>> YOU ALSO KEPT SAYING "IF THISPLACE IS ATTACKED THESE GUYS ARE

NOT GOING TO STAND AND FIGHT."

>> YEAH, I USED TO SAY IT ALLTHE TIME.

IN THE END I GOT QUITE BORED OFHEARING MY OWN VOICE SAYING IT.

>> Stephen: DAMNING TESTIMONYFROM THE HERO WHO WAS THERE THE

NIGHT OF THE ATTACK.

>> MORGAN JONES SCALED THE12-FOOT-HIGH WALL OF THE

COMPOUND THAT WAS STILL OVERRUNWITH AL QAEDA FIGHTERS.

>> ONE GUY SAW ME.

HE -- HE JUST SHOUTED -- ICOULDN'T BELIEVE HE'D SOON ME

BECAUSE IT WAS SO DARK.

HE STARTED WALKING TOWARDS ME.

>> AND AS HE WAS COMING CLOSER--

>> AS I GOT CLOSER I JUST HITHIM WITH THE BUTT OF THE RIFLE

IN THE FACE.

>> AND?

>> HE WENT DOWN.

>> Stephen: FOLKS, WHAT MOREIS THERE TO SAY THAN BENGHAZI,

BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!

>> MAINSTREAM MEDIA OUTRAGE OVERTHE BENGHAZI TERROR ATTACKS BUT

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT NEW FOR YOUOUT THERE, OUR VIEWERS, BECAUSE

THE WRENCHING REPORT ON "60MINUTES" LAST NIGHT WAS FILLED

WITH INFORMATION FOX UNCOVEREDMONTHS AGO.

>> I THINK IT'S GREAT MAINSTREAMMEDIA IS FINALLY CATCHING UP.

CBS DID THIS STORY ON BENGHAZIAND I SEE CRITICISM FROM THE

LEFT WHERE THEY GO YOU GUYS ARECOVERING A PHONY SCANDAL.

"60 MINUTES" DOESN'T COVER PHONYSCANDALS.

>> Stephen: YES, ANOTHERNETWORK COVERED IT.

THAT'S HOW YOU FOE FOX NEWS'REPORTING IS ACCURATE.

(LAUGHTER)IT'S JUST LIKE THEIR MOTTO "WE

REPORT, BUT YOU SHOULD REALLYCHECK WITH SOMEONE ELSE."

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)ALSO, CBS SHOULD HAVE CHECKED

WITH SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE MORGANJONES' STORY TURNED OUT TO BE

TOTALLY FAKE.

INCLUDING HIS NAME, WHICH IS NOTMORGAN JONES BUT DYLAN DAVIES,

WHICH ACTUALLY SOUNDS EVEN MOREFAKE.

(LAUGHTER)IN FACT, IN HIS INCIDENT REPORT

TO HIS EMPLOYER DAVIES WROTE HESPENT MOST OF THE NIGHT AT HIS

BENGHAZI BEACH SIDE VILLANOWHERE NEAR THE EMBASSY.

EVIDENTLY THE GUY HE HIT IN THEFACE WITH THE BUTT OF HIS RIFLE

THAT NIGHT WAS A CAB THAT BOY.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)NOW CBS KNEW DAVIES HAD LIED TO

HIS EMPLOYER BUT BELIEVED THEHEROIC VERSION HE TOLD THEM

BECAUSE THEIR SOURCES LED THEMTO BELIEVE THAT DAVIES' F.B.I.

REPORT WAS IN SYNC WITH WHAT HETOLD "60 MINUTES."

OR HE MIGHT HAVE TOLD THE F.B.I.

THAT HE WAS THE LEAD SINGER OF'N SYNC.

IT'S NOT CLEAR.

(LAUGHTER)BECAUSE LATER THE "NEW YORK

TIMES" CHECKED WITH THE F.B.I.

AND DAVIES' F.B.I. TESTIMONY ISNOT WHAT HE TOLD "60 MINUTES."

SO CBS NEWS QUICKLY CHECKED ITSOWN F.B.I. SOURCES AND LEARNED

WHAT MR. DAVIES TOLD THE F.B.I.

DIFFERD FROM WHAT HE TOLD US.

SO CBS FACT CHECKED THE STORYBUT WHEN IT TURNED OUT TO BE

WRONG THEY FACT CHECKED IT FORREALS, Y'ALL!

(LAUGHTER)AND ON LAST NIGHT THE "60

MINUTES," LARA LOGAN ADDRESSEDTHE CONTROVERSY HEAD ON AT THE

VERY TOP OF THE LAST MINUTE OFTHE SHOW.

(LAUGHTER)>> WE END OUR BROADCAST TONIGHT

WITH A CORRECTION ON A STORY WEREPORTED OCTOBER 27.

WE REALIZED WE HAD BEEN MISLEDAND IT WAS A MISTAKE TO INCLUDE

HIM IN OUR REPORT.

FOR THAT, WE ARE VERY SORRY.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TOEVERY PERSON AT "60 MINUTES" IS

THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH IS WEMADE A MISTAKE.

>> Stephen: FOLKS, I'M NOTBUYING THIS.

CBS IS GOOD AT JOURNALISM.

THERE'S ONLY ONE LOGICALEXPLANATION FOR WHAT REALLY

HAPPENED HERE.

HILLARY CLINTON GOT TO THEM!

(LAUGHTER)YOU SEE, FOLKS, AS YOU WELL KNOW

BUT I WILL REPEAT AS OFTEN ASPOSSIBLE, HILLARY CLINTON WAS

SECRETARY OF STATE DURING THEBENGHAZI ATTACKS!

I MEAN, THAT'S HER OFFICIALPHOTO.

(LAUGHTER)ERGO, QUID PRO QUO, AM BUS

BRIEF, SHE IS TO BLAME.

AND NOW N.O.W. SHE'S SO HUNGRYFOR POWER IN 2016 THAT SHE'S

SOMEHOW CONVINCED "60 MINUTES"TO AIR THIS FALSE BENGHAZI

APOLOGY TO DISCREDIT THEIRINVESTIGATION!

AND WE HERE AT THE "THE COLBERTREPORT" HAVE NOW FOUND AN

EYEWITNESS WITH STARTLING NEWDETAILS CONCERNING THE NIGHT OF

THE TRAGIC CBS/BENGHAZI APOLOGY.

JIM?

I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE A COLLEGEINTERN AT "60 MINUTES."

(LAUGHTER)>> YES.

(LAUGHTER)>> Stephen: AND FOR YOUR OWN

SAFETY, ARE YOU USING AN ALIASTONIGHT?

WHAT IS THAT?

>> PONCHO DENEWS.

(LAUGHTER).

>> Stephen: NOW, PONCHO, YOUWERE INTERNING THE NIGHT ALL

HELL BROKE LOOSE AT "60MINUTES."

>> YES, STEPHEN, I WASDEFINITELY THERE THAT NIGHT

BECAUSE I'M AN ACTUAL HUMANWITNESS.

(LAUGHTER).

>> Stephen: TELL US WHATHAPPENED, PANCHO.

>> WELL, I WAS COMING BACK FROMGETTING CHEWING TOBACCO FOR FOR

LESLEY STAHL WHEN I HEARDEXPLOSIONS OF SHOUTING.

>> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU DONEXT?

>> I RAN TOWARDS IT.

I SCALED THE 30-FOOT WALLSURROUNDING THE NEWSROOM.

(LAUGHTER)ONCE I LANDED, A SHADOWY FIGURE

RAN TOWARDS ME SO I KNOCKED HIMOUT WITH THE BUTT OF MY HARPOON

GUN.

(LAUGHTER).

>> Stephen: WHO WAS THAT?

>> TURNS OUT IT WAS MORLEYSAFER.

(LAUGHTER)BUT THEN I TURNED AROUND AND I

SAW -- AND I SAW -->> Stephen: WHO DID YOU SEE?

>> IT WAS HILLARY CLINTON.

(LAUGHTER)SHE WAS SWINGING A BIKE CHAIN

AND YELLING "WE'RE HERE TO KILLTHE STORY!

WHO WANTS TO EAT SOME CHAIN?"(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)THEN SHE PISTOL WHIPPED MORLEY

SAFER.

(LAUGHTER)WHICH WAS CRUEL SINCE HE WAS

ALREADY UNCONSCIOUS.

>> Stephen: SO IT WAS HILLARYCLINTON WHO MADE CBS APOLOGIZE?

>> YES!

>> Stephen: I KNEW IT!

ANYTHING ELSE?

>> YEAH, STEPHEN, I HAVE ONEMORE EXCLUSIVE.

I'M NOT REALLY "60 MINUTES"INTERN PONCHO DENEWS.

I'M CHARLIE SKINNER OF ATLANTISCABLE NEWS CHANNEL AS PROFILED

IN THE HBO DOCUMENTARY "THENEWS."

(LAUGHTER)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: WHAT?

WHERE DID THAT COLLEGE INTERNGO?

>> THERE WAS NEVER ANY INTERN,STEPHEN!

I DID IT TO PROVE A POINT THATAS JOURNALISTS WE ARE THE

GATEKEEPERS OF TRUTH!

WE SEPARATE RIGHT FROM WRONG;FACT FROM FICTION, DELICATE FROM

PERMANENT PRESS!

I RECALL A MAN WHO SAID WITHGREAT POWER COMES GREAT

RESPONSIBILITY.

THAT MAN WAS SPIDER-MAN'S UNCLE.

(LAUGHTER)AND NOW HE'S DEAD!

THE PUBLIC NEEDS US TO BE THEWATCHDOGS OF DEMOCRACY.

WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TOCRITICIZE OUR LEADERS WITHOUT A

PROEFP, REPORT NATIONAL SECRETSWITHOUT FEAR OF IMPRISONMENT.

IF WE VIOLATE THIS CONTACT, THISPUBLIC TRUST --

>> Stephen: HOW MUCH LONGER?

>> ALMOST DONE.

THEN WE WILL HAVE A PUPPET PRESSOFS HERE, INNUENDO, HYPERBOLE

AND NONSENSE.

DING-DONG, WHO IS IT?

IT'S DOMINOES!

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S THETHROAT!

DELIVERED HOT AND CRUSTY OR YOURMONEY BACK!

THAT'S THE GUARANTEE WE MAKEAMERICA EVERY NIGHT OTHERWISE

THE WORLD IS JUST CRAZY BREAD.

(LAUGHTER)>> Stephen: TECHNICALLY, CRAZY

BRETT IS LITTLE CESARS.

>> IT'S CALLED POETIC LICENSE,GODDAMNIT!

>> Stephen: YOU'RE RIGHT, THENEWSROOM'S CHARLIE SKINNER.

NOW, IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME,THERE'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO DO.

WE END OUR THIS PART OF THE SHOWWITH A CORRECTION.

IN OUR REPORT TONIGHT, A MANNAMED PONCHO DENEWS CLAIMED HE

WAS A "60 MINUTES" INTERN AND WEBELIEVED HIM BECAUSE HE HAD AN

I.D. LANYARD.

(LAUGHTER)FOLLOWING THE REPORT, THE

"WASHINGTON POST", THE "NEW YORKTIMES," AND THE "TV GUIDE" ALL

REPORTED THAT HE WAS ACTUALLYTHE ACTOR SAM WATERSTON STAR OF

-- "THE PLASTIC DOME OF NORMAJEAN."

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)LOOK IT UP.

LOOK IT UP.

WE CHECKED WITH OUR SOURCES ATIMDB AND IT TURNS OUT WE MADE A

MISTAKE.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE USED HIM INOUR REPORT AND FOR THAT WE'RE

VERY SORRY.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TOEVERYONE HERE AT THE "THE

COLBERT REPORT" IS THE TRUTH,AND THE TRUTH IS, IT'S SOMEBODY

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE).

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY!

THANKS SO MUCH, FOLKS.

YOU KNOW AS A VETERAN POLITICALJOURNALIST I HAVE COVERED EVERY

BIG CONTEST IN THE LAST 15YEARS.

BUSH V. GORE, BUSH V. KERRY,KERRY V. PREDATOR.

(LAUGHTER)BUT AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE

POLITICAL HORSE RACE, I AMDISGUSTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON

THE SUNDAY SHOWS.

THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONWAS ONLY A YEAR AGO.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE MEDIA ISWASTING ITS TIME SPECULATING ON

2016 FRONT-RUNNERS.

AND NEITHER CONDITION K THE 2016FRONT-RUNNER.

CHRIS CHRISTIE APPEARED ON ALLFOUR SUNDAY SHOWS TO TALK ABOUT

HOW MUCH HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALKABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.

RACE.LAUGH.

>> GOVERNOR, HOW INTERESTED AREYOU IN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN

2016?

>> WELL, CHRIS, WHAT I'MINTERESTED IN DOING IS BEING THE

GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY.

WHAT I'M FOCUSED ON IS DOING MYJOB IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY.

I'M THE GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY.

FOR ME, I'M THE GOVERNOR OF NEWJERSEY AND MY JOB IS TO RUN THE

STATE OF NEW JERSEY.

>> Stephen: YES, HE'S JUST THEGOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY.

THAT'S WHY HE WENT ON "MEET THEJERSEY" "FOX NEWS JERSEY SUNDAY"

"FACE THE TURNPIKE" AND "THISNEW JERSEY WITH NEW JERSEY NEW

JERSEYOPOLIS."

(LAUGHTER)AND I ADMIRE HOW DESPITE ALL THE

SPECULATION, CHRISTIE STAYSHUMBLE ABOUT HIS FUTURE BY

BRAGGING ONLY ABOUT HIS PAST.

>> ON GOVERNING IT'S ABOUT DOINGTHINGS, ACCOMPLISHING THINGS,

REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE ANDCRAFTING ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

YOU KNOW, 143, NOW NEW PRIVATESECTORS JOBS.

143,000 NEW PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS.

143,000 NEW PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS.

143000 NEW PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS.

1423,000 NEW PRIVATE SECTORJOBS.

143,000 NEW PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS.

(LAUGHTER).

>> Stephen: WOW!

143,000 TIMES SEVEN MENTIONS ONT.V. EQUALS --

(LAUGHTER)(LAUGHTER)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHY THESESUNDAY SHOWS WON'T JUST LEAVE

CHRIS CHRISTIE ALONE!

I MEAN, THE MAN HAS GOT TO FOCUSON GOVERNING NEW JERSEY WITH

MICHAEL J. FOX AND JIMMY FALLON!

I JUST HOPE HE HAS TIME TORECORD HIS NOT RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT ROBOCALLS.

>> HI, THIS IS CHRIS CHRISTIE.

I'M NOT RUNNING FOR ANYTHING,I'M FOCUSED ON BEING GOVERNOR OF

NEW JERSEY.

STOP CALLING ME!

I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THESE SORTSOF BELTWAY GAMES.

SPEAKING OF WHICH, BOY, SOMEBODYNEEDS TO CHANGE THE CULTURE OF

D.C.

CHRISTIE, 2016.

TWO COMPLETELY UNRELATED WORDS.

143,000 JOBS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE).

>> Stephen: OKAY, CABLE NEWS?

YOU GOT THE MESSAGE?

I JUST HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE TOSAY THAT AGAIN.

BUT IF HE DOES, HE'S AVAILABLENEXT SUNDAY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE).

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY.

PLEASE WELCOME PETER BAKER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)HEY, PETER, NICE TO HAVE YOU ON.

MR. BAKER, SIR, YOU ARE THECHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT

FOR THE "NEW YORK TIMES".

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: DID YOU HAVE TOSHIFT GEARS BETWEEN THE BUSH

ADMINISTRATION AND THE OBAMAADMINISTRATION?

BECAUSE YOU GUYS WERE SO TOUGHON BUSH AND SO IN LOVE WITH

OBAMA.

(LAUGHTER)>> RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMAWOULD SAY.

THEY DON'T SEEM TO THINK WE'REVERY EASY ON HIM.

BUT, LOOK, WE COVER ALLPRESIDENT IT IS SAME WAY.

WE TRY TO BE TOUGH BUT FAIR ANDTRY TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> LET'S FIND OUT HOW TOUGH ANDFAIR YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A

NEW BOOK CALLED "DAYS OF FIRE:BUSH AND CHENEY IN THE WHITE

HOUSE."

OKAY, UM, I'M GOING TO DRAW -- ALINE RIGHT NOW, OKAY?

I LOVE THIS MAN.

I LOVE PRESIDENT BUSH.

IF I READ YOUR BOOK-- AND NOPROMISES-- IF I READ YOUR BOOK

WILL I LIKE HIM MORE OR LESS?

>> I THINK YOU'D LIKE PRESIDENTBUSH.

I THINK IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIMYOU'LL SEE THINGS IN THERE THAT

FEED THE ARGUMENT.

>> Stephen: SO IT'S A BOOKTRYING TO PLEASE EVERYONE?

>> TRYING TO FIND A --(LAUGHTER).

TRYING TO BE A NEUTRAL BOOKABOUT TWO GUYS NOBODY FEELS

NEUTRAL ABOUT SO IT'S ACHALLENGE.

>> BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T FEELNEUTRAL ABOUT THESE TWO GUYS.

DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THESETWO GUYS ON THE COVER THERE?

THERE'S BUSH AND CHENEY.

DO THEY WALK AROUND WASHINGTONLIKE THIS?

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)IS THAT AN ACTUAL PHOTO?

>> THAT'S AN ACTUAL PHOTO.

THAT WAS A DAY THAT BUSH PUTCHENEY ON THE TICKET.

"TIME" MAGAZINE TOOK THATPICTURE BUT DIDN'T LOSE.

>> THIS WAS AN ACTUAL PHOTO?

>> YEAH!

>> Stephen: THIS IS LIKE BUSHSAYING "YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO

DEAL WITH ME, OKAY?"THIS IS GOOD COP, ROBOCOP.

OKAY, SO WAS HE A GOODPRESIDENT, BOTTOM LINE?

WE'LL START WITH THE BOTTOM LINEAND WORK UP.

>> DEFINITELY TOP 50.

(LAUGHTER)HE DID A LOT OF THINGS THAT

PEOPLE TODAY APPRECIATE,INCLUDING DEMOCRATS.

HE HEAD THE PET FAR PROGRAM ONAIDS IN AFRICA.

MEDICARE PART "D" THAT PAYS FORPRESCRIPTION DRUG CARE.

OBVIOUSLY IRAQ SUCKS A LOT OFTHE OPTION OUT OF THE ROOM.

>> Stephen: I'M GLAD YOUFINISHED THAT SENTENCE.

(LAUGHTER)WAS HE IN CHARGE?

BECAUSE THE LINE ON THESE TWOWAS THAT CHENEY WAS CALLING THE

SHOTS AND THAT MY MAN BUSH WASJUST A PUPPET.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE SURPRISINGTHING YOU LEARN FROM THIS BOOK

IS IN FACT THE RELATIONSHIP ISMUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.

CHENEY WAS VERY INFLUENTIAL INTHE BEGINNING BUT AS THE TERM

WENT ON THE TWO OF THEM DIVERGEDAND WENT IN DIFFERENT

DIRECTIONS.

BY THE END THEY WERE ON OPPOSITESIDES OF MOST OF THE ISSUES THEN

THEY HAD A BIG FIGHT AT THE END.

>> Stephen: THEY GREW APART?

>> THEY WERE ONS ON IT IS SIDESOF IRAN, NORTH KOREA, SYRIA,

RUSSIA, CLIMATE CHANGE, GUNRIGHTS, THE AUTO BAILOUT.

>> Stephen: WAIT, THEY WERE ONTHE OPPOSITE SIDES?

SO BUSH WAS ON ONE SIDE ANDCHENEY WAS ON THE OTHER ABOUT

CLIMATE CHANGE AND GUN RIGHTSAND -- WHEN DID BUSH -- WAS BUSH

GAGGED?

WHY --(LAUGHTER).

WHY DID I NOT HEAR ANYTHING THATI DIDN'T LIKE FROM BUSH.

>> .

>> BUSH WON THOSE FIGHTS.

>> Stephen: HE DID?

WHERE WAS THE GUN CONTROL BUSHINSTITUTED?

>> HE DIDN'T DO GUN CONTROL BUTON THE SECOND AMENDMENT CASE

BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT THEADMINISTRATION PUT IN A MIDDLE

OF-THE-ROAD BRIEF THAT CHENEYDIDN'T LIKE.

HE SIGNED ON TO A DIFFERENTBRIEF SAYING THE SECOND

AMENDMENT PROTECTS THE RIGHTS TOGUNS AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF JOSH

BOLTON WENT TO CHENEY'S CHIEF OFSTAFF AND SAID "YOU CAN'T DO

THIS ANYMORE."

HE SAID, LOOK, KHAEUBNY IS THEPRESIDENT OF THE SENATE AND HE

SAID IF YOU DO THAT, TAKE YOURSTUFF AND GO UP TO THE HILL AND

WORK OUT OF THERE INSTEAD OF THEWHITE HOUSE.

>> Stephen: IS THAT WHATHAPPENED?

>> HE DID NOT.

IN THE END HE LET HIM STAY.

>> Stephen: THERE'S THE DOOR,DON'T LET IT HIT YOU WHERE THE

GOOD LORD SPLIT YOU."

(LAUGHTER)WERE THEY EVER FRIENDS?

>> THEY WERE NEVER FRIENDS.

I ASKED JIMMY ABOUT IT.

HE SAID THEY WERE NEVER BUDDIES.

>> Stephen: THAT'SHEARTBREAKING!

THAT'S LIKE FINDING OUT BATMANAND ROBIN WEREN'T GAY.

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)DID THEY ACTUALLY FIGHT ABOUT

ANYTHING?

>> THEY DID BY THE END.

ESPECIALLY OVER SCOOTER LIBBY.

SCOOTER LIBBY WAS CHIEF OF STAFFTO THE VICE PRESIDENT.

HE GOT CONVICTED IN THE C.I.A.

LEAK CASE.

CHENEY THOUGHT IT WAS A BOGUSPROSECUTION.

BUSH SAID -- CHENEY SAID "ITHINK YOU SHOULD PARDON HIM."

BUSH SAID NO.

CHENEY SAID "YOU'RE LEAVING AGOOD MAN ON THE FIELD OF

BATTLE."

ON THE INAUGURATION DAY IT'SJUST BUSH AND OBAMA IN THE CAR

HE SAYS "WHATEVER YOU DO, SET APARDON POLICY EARLY AND STICK TO

IT.

LEARN HOW TO SAY NO TO YOUR VICEPRESIDENT."

>> THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS A HARDGUY TO SAY NO TO BECAUSE HE SHOT

PEOPLE IN THE FACE.

(LAUGHTER)>> YES, BUT BUSH DID IT.

>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND THATCAUSED FRICTION BETWEEN TWO T OF

TWO OF THEM WHEN CHENEY SHOT AMAN IN THE FACE.

(LAUGHTER)IT WAS A MISTAKE.

WHY WAS THAT A PROBLEM FOR THEPRESIDENT?

>> THEY WERE UPSET THAT THE VICEPRESIDENT DIDN'T PUT THIS OUT AT

FIRST, DIDN'T DISCLOSE IT.

LAURA BUSH HEARD ABOUT IT -->> THE VICE PRESIDENT DIDN'T

HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AND GO"SURPRISE, I SHOT SOMEONE IN THE

FACE?">> EVEN LAURA BUSH WAS UPSET.

SHE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM HERSECRET SERVICE AGENTS.

CAUSED MORE FRICTIONS BETWEENTWO SIDES.

>> Stephen: DID CHENEY EVER --CHENEY NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR

SHOOTING EVERYONE IN THE FACE.

HE DID.

HE WENT ON BRIT HUME,EVENTUALLY.

THE PRESIDENT -->> Stephen: HE SHOT THE

PRESIDENT IN THE FACE.

>> HE DID NOT SHOOT THEPRESIDENT IN THE FACE.

>> Stephen: I THOUGHT THEOTHER GUY APOLOGIZED FOR GETTING

HIS FACE IN THE WAY OF CHENEY'SGUN.

>> HE DID.

HE WAS VERY GRACIOUS ABOUT IT.

>> Stephen: THAT WAS NICE.

I'M NOT SURE BUILD THAT GRACIOUSWITH MY FACE.

PETER BAKER "DAYS OF FIRE."

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)