November 4, 2015 - No Legal Weed in Ohio & Science vs. Faith

  • 11/04/2015

Ohio citizens vote against legalizing marijuana, and Larry discusses the clash between religion and science with Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tom Papa and Carl Lentz.

LARRY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELCOME TO -- I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

I LOVE YOU.

I LOVE YOU TOO, BABY!

WE HAVE A GREAT SHOWTONIGHT.

NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON ON THE SHOWTONIGHT.

[APPLAUSE]AND, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S

COLD AND FLU SEASON.

SO WHAT'S BETTER TIME TO TALKABOUT AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE

AIRBORNE DISEASE, SPIRITAIRLINES.

[LAUGHTER]IT'S NOW BEING ACCUSED OF

DISCRIMINATION BY SEVERAL BLACKPASSENGERS.

>> PASSENGERS KICKED OFF A PLANEOVERNIGHT.

THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT SAYS THEYWERE BEING UNRULY.

THEY CLAIM IT'S BECAUSE THEYWERE BLACK.

>> POLICE WAS CALLED BY SPIRITAIRLINES AFTER AN ARGUMENT BROKE

OUT AFTER A DOUBLE-BOOKED SEAT.

LARRY: A DOUBLE-BOOKED SEAT?

OKAY, GUYS, I HAVE TO CALL FALSERACISM ON THIS.

IN A YEAR WHEN I'M TRYING TOFOCUS ON BLACK LIVES MATTER, I

DON'T HAVE THE ENERGY FOR BLACKFLIGHTS MATTER, TOO.

I JUST DON'T GET IT.

WITH MORE ON THE SPIRIT DEBACLEWE GO TO HOLLY WHO'S ACTUALLY ON

A SPIRIT AIRLINES FLIGHT.

HOLLY, HAVE YOU FOUND ANYINSTANCES OF RACISM?

>> YES.

IT'S HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK,LARRY.

SPIRIT IS TRYING TO KICK ME OFFTOO.

#RACISM!

.

LARRY: WHOA.

HOLD ON A SECOND.

HOLLY, TELL ME EXACTLY WHATHAPPENED.

>> I REFUSED TO GIVE UP MY SEAT.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED! I'M THEROSA PARKS OF THE SKIES!

LARRY: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALLTHAT.

OKAY.

SO THEY TRIED TO KICK YOU OFFTHE PLANE BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK?

>> YES!

ALL I WAS DOING WAS TRYING TOFINISH "HAPPY FEET 2" AND THEY

JUST KEPT SAYING "GET UP, GETUP, GET UP!"

LARRY: THAT SOUNDS HORRIBLE.

MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING RACISTABOUT IT.

>> CAN I INTERJECT FOR A SECOND?

THE FLIGHT IS OVER. WE JUST WANTHER TO LEAVE

[LAUGHTER][APPLAUSE]

LARRY: THE FLIGHT IS -- HOLLY,GET OFF THE DAMN PLANE.

>> DON'T LISTEN!

HE'S A RACIST!

>> I'M NOT A RACIST!

I JUST WANT TO GO HOME.

LARRY: OKAY.

MOVING ON TO OUR TOP STORY --FALSE ALARM, FALSE ALARM.

OH, BY THE WAY, LAST NIGHT WASELECTION NIGHT.

LIKE 95% OF MOST AMERICANS,YOU'RE FINDING THAT OUT JUST

NOW.

[LAUGHTER]NOW, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF

IMPORTANT ISSUES OUT THERE.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMES OUT OFOHIO WHERE VOTERS CONSIDERED

LEGALIZING MARIJUANA.

ALL RIGHT, WHAT DID THE VOTERSSAY?

>> VOTERS SAID NO TO LEGALIZINGRECREATIONAL AND MEDICINAL POT.

LARRY: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT,OHIO IS THE ONE STATE THAT

DETERMINES THE PRESIDENT, RIGHT?

I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD KEEP ACLEAR HEAD.

[LAUGHTER]THEY'RE KIND LIKE AMERICA'S

DESIGNATED DRIVER.

SORRY, OHIO, COULD YOU HOLD ONTO THE KEYS?

WE'RE ALL GOING TO GET [BLEEP]RIGHT NOW.

LET US KNOW WHO BECAMEPRESIDENT.

THANKS, DUDE.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH MORE ON THIS STORY, WELCOMEMIKE YARD AND RICKY VELEZ.

SO MIKE AND RICKY, I KNOW YOU'REON THE SCENE.

WHY DIDN'T OHIO VOTERS WANT TOLEGALIZE WEED?

>> THIS INITIATIVE WAS STUPIDFROM THE GET-GO.

IT ONLY ALLOWED 10 COMPANIES TOSELL MARIJUANA.

LARRY: REALLY?

>> YEAH.

LARRY: THIS IS A WEED MONOPOLY?

>> EXACTLY.

AND PEOPLE WANT TO GET THEIRWEED FROM THEIR SHADY DEALERS,

NOT FROM A SHADY CORPORATE SUIT.

CHECK IT OUT, LARRY.

THIS IS CORPORATE WEED.

IT'S LIKE A CORPORATE HIGH.

YES, SIR ! I'LL EAT A WHOLE BAGOF FUNYUNS AND WATCH ANIME

RIGHT AWAY, SIR! CORNY.

IT'S ALL BIG AND IT SQUASHESOUT THE MOM AND POP WEED, LARRY.

>> CORPORATE WEED'S FOR NARCS,YO

LARRY: I'M NOT SEEING THEDISTINCTION, YOU GUYS.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WEED ISWEED.

[LAUGHTER]>> THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL!

>> MAD IRRESPONSIBLE, LARRY.

>> LET ME EXPLAIN IT REAL QUICK.

LARRY: OKAY.

>> IMAGINE I'M BIG WEED.

LARRY: OKAY.

>> AND THESE EDIBLES ARE YOURLOCAL WEED DEALERS.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET EATEN UP,MAN.

>> HOLD ON.

I WANT TO BE BIG WEED, TOO.

>> OKAY.

HOLD ON GUYS, HOLD ON.

YOU CAN'T BE BIG WEED.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE USINGANALOGY TO JUSTIFY GETTING HIGH

ON TELEVISION.

>> I TOLD YOU HE'D FIND OUT.

>> HE'S SMART.

THAT'S WHY HE'S THE BOSS YO.WE'RE FIRED, MAN

LARRY: THANK YOU FOR ZEROCLARITY ON THIS STORY.

RICKY VELEZ AND MIKE YARD,EVERYBODY

[APPLAUSE]NOW, THERE WAS ANOTHER BIG

DEFEAT ON LAST NIGHT'S BALLOT.

THIS TIME FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS.

BE CAREFUL, TEXAS.

WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED YOU ASA CRAY-CRAY STATE.

>> THE HOUSTON EQUAL RIGHTSORDINANCE PROHIBITING

DISCRIMINATION IN EMPLOYMENT,HOUSING AND PUBLIC PLACES.

BASED ON FACTORS INCLUDING AGE,RACE, RELIGION, SEXUAL

ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY.

LARRY: OKAY.

LET ME BREAK THIS DOWN, THE BILLWAS SUPPOSED TO FIGHT AGAINST

EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSINGDISCRIMINATION FOR ALL KINDS

OF PEOPLE, AND I MEAN ALL KINDS.LOOK AT THIS LIST

I LOVE THAT IT INCLUDES GENETICINFORMATION.

[LAUGHTER]I MEAN, DON'T WORRY IF YOU FEEL

LIKE YOU'RE NOT BEING INCLUDEDON THIS LIST.

I'M PRETTY SURE GENETICINFORMATION COVERS YOU, ALL

RIGHT?

[LAUGHTER]SO THIS GOT DEFEATED.

HOW DOES A BILL THAT WAS SO ALLENCOMPASSING NOT GET PASSED?

>> OPPONENTS FOCUSED ON THECLAUSE THAT OUTLAW

DISCRIMINATION BASED ON GENDERIDENTITY.

>> PROP 1 IS NOT ABOUT EQUALITY.

IT'S ABOUT ALLOWING MEN INWOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS AND

BATHROOMS.

[LAUGHTER]LARRY: WHAT?

NOW, YOU MAY BE WONDERING HOW AHUGE ANTIDISCRIMINATION BILL

GETS REDUCED TO AFIGHT ABOUT BATHROOMS.

WELL, THE TRICK?

COMMERCIAL THAT SCARE THE POOPOUT OF YOU.

>> ANY MAN AT ANYTIME COULDENTER A WOMEN'S BATHROOM

BY CLAIMING TO BE A WOMEN.PREVENT DANGER. VOTE NO.

ON THE PROPOSITION 1 BATHROOMORDINANCE. IT GOES TOO FAR.

LARRY: OH, MY GOD, GET OUT OFTHERE!

WHY IS THE CAMERAMAN NOTHELPING?

THAT'S POWERFUL.

I MEAN, I WAS SCARED.

I'M NOT ALLOWING MY KIDSTO HAVE A BOWEL MOVEMENT EVER

AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW.

THIS BILL SEEMED LIKE ANO-BRAINER

LET'S GO TO GRACE PARRA LIVE INHOUSTON WITH MORE.

GRACE, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTANDTHIS.

WHY DO YOU THINK THIS BILL WASVOTED DOWN?

>> LARRY, LET ME EXPLAIN THIS.

AS A WOMAN IN HOUSTON I DON'TWANT TO POOP NEXT TO A DUDE.

LARRY: BUT THIS -- THIS BILLISN'T ABOUT POOPING NEXT TO

DUDES.

I MEAN, IT'S A BROADANTIDISCRIMINATION SUIT.

>> I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ABOUTDUDES WATCHING ME POOP.

YOU KNOW, MEN GET OFF ON THATKIND OF THING.

I SAW THIS AD: THIS GUY WASHIDING IN THIS STALL --

LARRY: GRACE.

THAT WAS A SCARE TACTIC.

THIS BILL WASN'T EVEN JUSTABOUT GENDER. IT ALSO PROTECTED

A MUSLIM WOMEN FOR GETTING FIREDFOR WEARING A BURQA AT WORK

>> BUT WHEN SHE GETS FIRED, SHECAN GO TO A WOMEN'S ROOM AND CRY

WITHOUT A MAN GOING IN ANDWATCHING HER POOP!

LARRY: WHY ARE YOU FOCUSING ONTHIS? THIS HAD

NOTHING TO DO WITH BATHROOMS. IT WAS PROPAGANDA TO PREVENT

PEOPLE FROM FOCUSING ON THEISSUE OF DISCRIMINATION.

>> I GET IT, BUT I'MIN TEXAS. EVERYTHING IS BIGGER

IN TEXAS, ESPECIALLY THE FEAROF PROGRESS.

[LAUGHTER]I WANT TO BE REAL WITH YOU,

LARRY, NOTHING SCARES THE[BLEEP] OUT OF US MORE.

LARRY: I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW.

GRACE PARRA, EVERYBODY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

LARRY: WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ALITTLE DIFFERENT ON THE SHOW

HERE.

WE TEAMED UP WITH THE FINE FOLKSAT ACURA TO RUN A CONTEST IN

WHICH WE ASKED TO PEOPLE TOKEEP IT 100 AND TELL US

SOMETHING NICE THEY'VE DONE THATNO ONE KNOWS ABOUT.

WE WENT THROUGH THE MANYSUBMISSIONS AND PICKED TWO

WINNERS WHO GET A VIP TRIP TONEW YORK.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THEWINNERS IS MIKE YARD, ONE OF OUR

CONTRIBUTORS.

>> WHAT'S UP, LARRY?

LARRY: YOU WENT DOWN TO FLORIDATO MEET ONE OF THE WINNERS,

RIGHT?

>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

A WOMAN NAMED JOANNE TINSLEY INKISSIMMEE FLORIDA.

LARRY: HOW DID IT GO?

>> IN COLLEGE, A FORTUNETELLERTOLD ME I'D GET EATEN BY AN

ALLIGATOR ONE DAY. SO ANYTIME IGO TO FLORIDA

AND I DON'T GET EATEN BY ANALLIGATOR, I

COUNT THAT AS A WIN.

I MADE IT BACK.

LARRY: HERE'S MIKE MEETING OURACURA WINNER JOANNE TINSLEY

>> I'M MIKE FROM "THE NIGHTLYSHOW," AND I'M IN KISSIMMEE

FLORIDA TO VISIT OUR KEEPIT 100 CONTEST WINNER, JOANNE

TINSLEY. I'M SO EXCITED TODAY,I'M ABOUT TO SURPRISE JOANNE AT

HER OFFICE.

SHE HAS NO IDEA WE'RE COMINGHERE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SO MUCH FUN.I'M KIDDING. KEEPING IT 100,

I'M 6'2", CHOCOLATY BROTHER, ICAN'T BE BE POPPING UP AT

PEOPLE'S JOBS TO SURPRISE THEM.

I MIGHT GET ARRESTED.

SHE'LL BE VERY EXCITED.

CONGRATULATIONS, JOANNE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE OUR BIG WINNER.

WE ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT'STHE BEST THING YOU'VE EVER DONE

THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. YOUKEPT IT 100.

YOUR ANSWER WAS?

>> DURING THE RECESSION -->> THE RECESSION?

>> UH-HUH.

>> ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2007 ANDTODAY?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> MY HUSBAND AND I -->> YOUR HUSBAND?

>> YEAH, MY HUSBAND.

>> I'M SORRY.

ONE SECOND.

THIS CONTEST CLEARLY STATEDNOBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW

ARE YA'LL KIDDING ME?

YOUR HUSBAND KNOWS ABOUT?>> YES.

>> YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT,JOANNE

WE DROVE AROUND ON CHRISTMAS ANDGAVE $100 BILLS TO THREEHOMELESS GUYS.

>> KIND OF AWESOME THAT THERE'SONLY THREE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN

KISSIMMEE.

WE HAVE A LOT IN NEW YORK.

WHY THREE $100 BILLS? WHY NOT 15$20 BILLS? MATH MAJOR.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WASAN AMOUNT THAT WAS EXCITING FOR

THEM.

>> KEEP IT A HUNDRED.

THIS HAS TO BE THE MOST EXCITINGEXPERIENCE OF YOUR LIFE, RIGHT?

>> NO, NOT REALLY.

>> ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

THIS IS "THE NIGHTLY SHOW" WITHLARRY WILMORE.

>> THIS IS EXCITING, BUT I SPENTTHREE YEARS IN BERLIN IN THE

ARMY IN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE ATTHE HEIGHT OF THE COLD WAR.

>> THAT'S INTERESTING. SO YOUDID THIS ON CHRISTMAS

HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU GIVE AWAYON KWANZAA?

>> NONE.

>> CINCO DE MAYO?

A COUPLE OF FIVERS?

>> NO.

>> NOTHING ON CINCO?

WHO RAN THIS CONTEST?

ALL RIGHT.

WE ALREADY BLEW OUR BUDGET ONFLORIDA, SO

CONGRATULATIONS!

YOU ARE OUR WINNER!

I LOVE IT!

LARRY: THANKS.

CONGRATS AGAIN TO CONTEST WINNERJOANNE TINSLEY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

LARRY: WELCOME BACK. HE'S THEPASTOR OF HILL SONG CHURCH

CARL LENZ. AND HE'S THE HOST OF"COME TO PAPA" OR SIRIUS,

COMEDIAN TOM PAPA

AND YOU CAN WATCH HIS SHOW"STAR TALK" SUNDAYS ON THE

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL.IT'S NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON.

[APPLAUSE]LARRY: FOR EVERYONE AT HOME,

JOINING OUR SHOW ON TWITTER, USE#TONIGHTLY.

THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITEISSUES.

THE WAR BETWEEN SCIENCE ANDRELIGION IS ONE OF THE OLDEST

WARS BETWEEN MAN EVER.

AND WE'RE GONNA SOLVE ITTONIGHT.

>> GOOD.

LARRY: THIS IS INTERESTING.

A NEW POLL OUT FROM THE PEWRESEARCH CENTER SAYS THAT

AMERICANS, ESPECIALLYMILLENNIALS, ARE BECOMING LESS

RELIGIOUS.

AS WE GET MORE ADVANCED INSCIENCE, DOES IT HURT OUR BELIEF

IN GOD?

>> IMORE THAT WE DISCOVER, THE MORE

SCIENCE DISCOVERS, THE MOREPERSONALLY IT REINFORCES THE

IDEA THAT THERE MUST BE SOMEKIND OF A GOD.

LIKE WHEN YOU SEE THINGS YOU'VENEVER SEEN BEFORE, THE RINGS OF

SATURN, EVEN SUNSETS OR YOGAPANTS -- YOGA PANTS.

LARRY: RIGHT.

>> THAT YOGA PANTS APPEAR IN OURLIFETIME, YOU'RE GOING TO TELL

ME THERE'S NO GOD?

LARRY: YOU BEHOLD YOGA PANTS ANDTHINK THERE'S A GOD?

>> I SEE A BIG BUTT IN YOGAPANTS, AND I THINK, OH, MAYBE

GOD IS BLACK.

LARRY: I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOINGTO TOUCH THAT ONE.

SO SCIENCE FOR YOU REVEALS MOREOF AN EXISTENCE OF GOD OR AN

EXISTENCE OF MORE AWESOMESCIENCE?

>> ANYTIME SOMEONE DESCRIBESTHEIR UNDERSTANDING OF GOD,

TYPICALLY IT INVOLVES SOMESTATEMENT OF BENEVOLENCE

OR SOME KIND OF KINDNESS. I LOOKAT THE UNIVERSE.

YES, IT'S FILLED WITH MYSTERIES,BUT IT'S ALSO FILLED WITH ALL

MANNER OF THINGS THAT WOULD JUSTAS SOON AS HAVE YOU DEAD, LIKE

ASTEROID STRIKES AND HURRICANESAND TORNADOES AND TSUNAMIS AND

VOLCANOS AND DISEASE,PESTILENCE.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT EXIST INTHE NATURAL WORLD THAT DO NOT

HAVE YOUR HEALTH OR LONGEVITY ASA PRIORITY.

I CANNOT LOOK AT THE UNIVERSEAND SAY THAT, YES, THERE'S A GOD

AND THIS GOD CARES ABOUT MY LIFEAT ALL.

THE EVIDENCE DOES NOT SUPPORTTHIS.

LARRY: IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU JUSTDESCRIBED THE OLD TESTAMENT.

PASTOR, HELP ME OUT.

IS SCIENCE A THREAT TORELIGION? OR CAN THEY COEXIST

>> NO.

I THINK GOD CREATED SCIENCE.

FOR ME, I DON'T THINK EXPLORINGANY OF THIS STUFF IS BAD.

IT WILL LEAD YOU TO EXACTLY WHATYOU SAID, A KNOWLEDGE THAT

SOMETHING HAD TO BEGIN THIS.

THERE'S SOMETHING MORE.

I LOVE IT.

I THINK THAT SCIENCE IS AWESOME.

I DON'T THINK THEY WAR AT ALL.

>> I FEEL THE MORE WE LEARN,THOUGH, THE MORE IT MIGHT

INCREASE OUR LIKELIHOOD OFBELIEVING IN A GOD, OR WHATEVER,

BUT I THINK IT HURTS RELIGION.

I THINK THE MORE YOU SEE, THEMORE THINGS ARE EXPOSED, LESS

LIKELY THAT YOU SHOW UP INDIFFERENT PLACES WHAT MAN HAS

DECIDED YOU'RE GOING TOTRANSLATE GOD.

>> YES.

YOU'RE MAKING A DISTINCTIONBETWEEN THE BEAUTY OF A SYSTEM

AND THINKING THERE MUST HAVEBEEN AN INTELLIGENT DESIGN AS

OPPOSED TO THIS INTELLIGENTDESIGN DOESN'T WANT ME TO EAT

MEAT ON FRIDAYS.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT IS THEINTELLIGENCE OF WHICH YOU SPEAK?

AN ASTEROID COMES AND TAKES OUT70% OF ALL THE SPEICES OF

LIFE ON EARTH.

IS THERE SOME INTELLIGENCE -->> I THINK IT'S VERY CLEVER.

>> I THINK OF THE HUMAN BODY.

I LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ONBETWEEN OUR LEGS.

THERE'S A SEWAGE SYSTEM ANDENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX

INTERMINGLING.

THERE'S NO ENGINEER OF ANYINTELLIGENCE WOULD HAVE DESIGNED

IT THAT WAY.

LARRY: YEAH, PASTOR, ISN'T THEREALSO THE WATCH OF THE DESERT?

ISN'T IT THE SAME ARGUMENT? IFYOU FIND A WATCH IN THE DESERT

YOU WOULDN'T THINK IT'S EROSIONTHAT CREATED THE WATCH

>> SOMETIMES RELIGION PRIDESITSELF ON BEGINNING THE END AND

END OF ALL KNOWLEDGE.

IF YOU'VE ALREADY SAID, I KNOWEVERYTHING, WE KNOW-IT-ALL, IT

SOMETIMES CAN ELIMINATE NEWKNOWLEDGE AND DISCOVERY, AND I

THINK THAT'S WRONG. PEOPLE GETTHREATENED BY SCIENCE, BUT

IF YOU'RE SECURE IN YOUR FAITH,YOU'LL BE OPEN TO LEARNING,

HEARING, DISCOVERING.

I THINK THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF ATLEAST MY RELIGION.

>> DO YOU HOLD ANY ROOMFOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD?

>> SURE, IF THERE'S EVIDENCE.

LARRY: WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE DOYOU NEED?

>> YOGA PANTSLARRY: WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE

DOES SCIENCE NEED?

IS FAITH NOT COMPLETELYCOMPATIBLE WITH AN

EVIDENCE-BASED -->> 40% OF AMERICAN SCIENTISTS

WILL GO TO CHURCH AND PRAY TO APERSONAL GOD, A GOD THAT WOULD

ANSWER THEIR PRAYERS.

WHEN YOU GO TO THOSE SCIENTISTS,INCLUDING THE HEAD OF THE

NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH,OUR GUY WHO IS HEAD OF THE

GENOME PROJECT, FRANCISCOLLINS --

LARRY: I WAS GOING TO SAYFRANCIS COLLINS.

[LAUGHTER]>> HE'S A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN.

HE WROTE A BOOK, HIKING IN THEMOUNTAINS, TURNED A CORNER, AND

THE WATERFALL WAS FROZEN IN THEWINTER, AND HE WAS PROSTRATE AND

GAVE HIMSELF TO GOD. YET HE'S APRODUCTIVE ACTIVE SCIENTIST.

HOW? BECAUSE HE'S NOT SAYING THEUNIVERSE WAS MADE IN 6 DAYS

HE'S EMBRACED SCIENCE, BUT KEPTTHE SPIRITUALITY PART OF WHAT'S

IN RELIGION.

HE'S NOT THE FIRST TO DO THAT.

THOMAS JEFFERSON IS PERHAPS THEMOST FAMOUS AMERICAN TO HAVE

DONE THAT.

HE SAID THE VALUE IN RELIGION ISNOT BELIEVING IN MIRACLES, BUT

FOLLOWING WISDOM CARRIED BY ANIMPORTANT PERSON IN THE HISTORY

OF HUMANS.

LARRY: I THINK HE HAD SEX WITH ASLAVE WHEN HE THAT WROTE THAT.

PASTOR, I'LL GIVE YOU THE LASTWORD.

>> PEOPLE NEED TO KEEP ONDISCOVERING, LEARNING AND

HEARING.

DOUBT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A DEADEND.

IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT LEADSTO AN OPEN DOOR.

WE NEED ROOM FOR PEOPLE TOEXPLORE, HAVE DOUBTS, AND FIGURE

THIS OUT.

WE ALL HAVE A DESIRE TO BEFULFILLED, AND PEOPLE NEED TO

KEEP ON LOOKING.

LARRY: I FIND THEM BOTHINSPIRING.

I THINK SCIENCE AND RELIGION,BOTH HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

INSPIRE RATHER DO ANYTHING ELSE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.