July 21, 2015 - Barack Obama

  • 07/21/2015

President Barack Obama sits down with Jon one last time to discuss senioritis, his relationship with the media and how to engage young people in public service.

>> Jon: WELCOME.NICE TO SEE YOU.

WELCOME TO THE DAILY SHOW.

MY NAME IS JON STEWART.

WE GOT A BIG SHOW FOR YOUTONIGHT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO

BEGIN IT BY RECITING MY HAFTORAH[LAUGHTER]

29 MINUTES LONG BUT IT GETSCOOKING AROUND MINUTE 17.

I'M NOT GOING TO SCREW AROUNDTONIGHT AS SOMEONE REMINDED ME

IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT --OBAMA![LAUGHTER]

APPARENTLY IF I UNDERSTAND ITCORRECTLY, NO ONE'S INTERESTED

IN MY [BLEEP] TONIGHT. SO LET'SJUST GET TO IT. FOR GOD SAKES,

I'M SURE THERE'S A FUNDRAISERHE'S GOT TO BE AT

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE 44THPRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THEPROGRAM PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.

[CROWD CHEERING]>> THANK YOU.

[CROWD CHEERING]>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: YOU KNOW, I AM AMAZEDAND HUMBLED EVERY TIME I COMEOUT

HERE AND GET THAT OVATION.

I'M JUST HAPPY YOU WERE HERE TOWITNESS IT.

[LAUGHTER]WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO.

HOW ARE YOU?

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE NOW? YOU HAVESENIORITUS, RIGHT?

WHAT DO YOU HAVE LEFT, ABOUT AYEAR.

>> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVETHAT YOU'RE LEAVING BEFORE ME.

[LAUGHTER]IN FACT, I'M ISSUING A NEW

EXECUTIVE ORDER.

THAT JON STEWART CANNOT LEAVETHE SHOW.

[LAUGHTER][APPLAUSE]

IT'S BEING CHALLENGED IN THECOURTS.

>> Jon: YES.

I HAVE TO SAY FOR ME, THIS IS ASTATES RIGHT ISSUE.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOUSHOULD BE ... WHAT ARE YOU

GOING, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE RUNNINGOUT OF TIME.

>> I'M NOT RUNNING. CAN I BECLEAR ABOUT THAT?

>> Jon: BUT YOU DON'T HAVETHAT MUCH TIME TO TAKE AWAY

AMERICANS GUNS AND DECLAREMARSHALL LAW AND PUT HARD

WORKING AMERICANS IN FEMA CAMPS.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOUBETTER GET STARTED.

ARE YOU FEELING, YOU KNOWTHERE'S AN EBB AND FLOW TO EVERY

ADMINISTRATION, TO EVERYPRESIDENT.

IT APPEARS THAT YOU'RE FEELINGIT A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW.

YOU'VE GOT THIS DEAL WITH IRANWORKED OUT.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR FAST TRACKAUTHORITY.

ARE YOU FEELING LIKE SEVEN YEARSIN WHATEVER.

>> I FINALLY KNOW WHAT I'MDOING.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: I'M FIGURING THIS

THING OUT, IS THAT HOW YOU'RE...

>> THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT YOU GETBETTER AS YOU GO ALONG.

IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER JOB.

YOU GET MORE EXPERIENCE.

BUT WHAT I DO THINK HAS HAPPENEDIS THAT A LOT OF THE WORK WE DID

EARLY STARTS BEARING FRUITLATER.

AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED OVER THELAST COUPLE MONTHS THAT PEOPLE

ARE SEEING SOME OF THE WORK THATWE STARTED WAY BACK WHEN I FIRST

CAME IN.

SO IRAN FOR EXAMPLE, WE PUTTHOSE SANCTIONS IN AND

METHODICALLY BUILT PRESSURE OVERIRAN OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE

YEARS TO GET THEM TO THE TABLETO NEGOTIATE.

AND BECAUSE OF THE GREAT WORK OFOUR TEAM, JOHN KERRY AND

SECRETARY ERNIE MONIZ WHOHAPPENED TO BE AN MIT PHYSICIST,

DID SOMETHING MORE THAN I DID.

>> Jon: HE EXPLAINED A LOT OFTHE INTRICACIES.

>> SO IT FINALLY COMES TOFRUITION.

BUT IT REPRESENTS A LOT OF WORK.

THE SAME IS TRUE WHEN IT COMESTO SOMETHING LIKE HEALTHCARE.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALLKINDS OF UPS AND DOWNS AND

KNOCKS, FIGHTS.

WHEN THE SUPREME COURT FINALLYSAYS I THINK DEFINITIVELY WE CAN

MOVE FORWARD ON THIS WITH A LOTOF EUPHORIA BUT WE'D ALREADY GOT

16 MILLION PEOPLE HEALTHINSURANCE THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT

BEFORE. THAT REALLY WAS ACONSEQUENCE OF THE WORK THAT WE

DID.[APPLAUSE]

SO THE WAY I'M FEELING RIGHT NOWIS I'VE GOT 18 MONTHS.

THERE ARE A BUNCH OF OTHERTHINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET DONE.

SOME OF THEM WE GOT STARTEDEARLY.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS A GOOD EXAMPLEWHERE WE DOUBLE FUEL EFFICIENCY

STANDARDS ON CARS, INCREASEDSOLAR POWER BY 20 TIMES.

AND NOW WE'VE GOT A PARISCONFERENCE ON CLIMATE CHANGE

COMING UP LATER THIS YEAR.

AND IF WE CAN GET CHINA ANDINDIA AND SOME OF THE OTHER BIG

COUNTRIES TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHATWE'VE ALREADY DONE.

AND FINALLY GET SOMETHING GLOBALAND START ADDRESSING WHAT IS

GOING TO BE -- BASICALLY.

>> Jon: LET ME ASK YOU AQUESTION ABOUT IRAN.

WHOSE TEAM ARE WE ON? IN THEMIDDLE EAST. BECAUSE I

KNOW WE'RE FIGHTING WITH IRAQISTO DEFEAT ISIS ALONG WITH IRAN

BUT IN YEMEN WE'RE FIGHTINGIRAN

WITH IRAQIS AND SAUDIS.

>> THAT'S NOT QUITE RIGHT, BUTTHAT'S OK

>> WHO ARE WE BOMBING?>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING AFTER

ISIL AND WE'VE GOT A 60 COUNTRYCOALITION AND THAT'S OUR TOP

PRIORITY.

BUT WITH RESPECT TO IRAN.

THEY'RE AN ADVERSARY.ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-ISRAEL,

ANTI-SEMETIC, THEY SPONSORTERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS

LIKE HEZBOLLAH.>> SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PARNTER

FOR PEACE>> AS HAS BEEN SAID FREQUENTLY,

YOU DON'T MAKE PEACE WITH YOURFRIENDS.

SO THE ISSUE HERE IS DO WE WANTTHEM HAVING A NUCLEAR WEAPON AND

THE ANSWER IS NO.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE BESTWAY TO DO THAT.

AND THE DEAL WE PUT TOGETHER ICAN SAY THAT IRAN WILL NOT BE

ABLE TO GET A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

WE CUT OFF THE FOUR MAJORPATHWAYS FOR GETTING A NUCLEAR

WEAPON.

WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL UNANIMITYAROUND AN INSPECTION REGIME AND

A VERIFICATION REGIME THAT ISUNPRECEDENTED.

WE'VE GOT MECHANISMS IN PLACE TOMAKE SURE IF THEY'RE CHEATING,

NOT ONLY DO WE ARE MUCH MORELIKELY TO CATCH THEM BUT WE CAN

ALSO IMMEDIATELY PUT BACK THESANCTIONS THAT WE'VE GOT.

AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE CRITICSTALK ABOUT WELL IT'S A BAD YEAR,

WE COULD HAVE GOT A BETTER DEAL,YOU THEN ASK THEM WELL WHAT

REPRESENTS A BETTER DEAL.

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU THINK COULDHAPPEN.

TYPICALLY THEY ARE VAGUE ANDTHEY FALL BACK ON WELL IF YOU

BEAT YOUR CHEST A LITTLE BITMORE.

OR IF YOU BROUGHT DICK CHENEY TOTHE NEGOTIATIONS.

>> Jon: LET'S NOT GET CRAZY.

>> EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE.

>> Jon: BUT IT SEEMS TO MEOUR STRATEGIES HAVE BEEN WE'VE

TRIED INVADING A COUNTRY,THROWING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF

MONEY IN TRAINING AT THEIR ARMY,BEING 100,000 TROOPS BEING

THE SAFETY NET OF THAT COUNTRYHOLDING IT TOGETHER.

WE'VE TRIED BOMBING A COUNTRY,LIBYA AND DEPOSING --

>> A VISCIOUS DICTATOR.

>> Jon: HONING THAT THAT -->> HOPING THAT WORKS OUT.

>> Jon: WE TRIED ARMINGMILITANT GROUPS IN THE HOPES

THAT IT GETS IN THE RIGHT HAND.

BUT THIS NEW THING, YOU CALLEDIT EARLIER DIPLOMACY.

[LAUGHTER]THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING.

[APPLAUSE]WE STILL GET TO --

[APPLAUSE]>> THE KEY ISSUE HERE IS THAT IF

WE ARE ABLE TO NEGOTIATEPEACEFULLY AROUND NOT HAVING A

NUCLEAR WEAPON.

>> SURE.

>> THEY ARE STILL GOING TO CAUSEUS PROBLEMS IN VARIOUS AREAS.

WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVEENORMOUS DIFFERENCES WITH THEM

AND WE STILL HAVE TO WORK WITHCORE ALLIES LIKE ISRAEL AND THE

GULF COUNTRIES TO MAKE SURE IRANIS NOT SPONSORING TERRORISM OR

DESTABILIZING OTHER COUNTRIES.

BUT WE WILL HAVE TAKEN OFF THETABLE WHAT WILL BE A

CATASTROPHIC STRATEGIC PROBLEMIF THEY GOT A WEAPON.

PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUTIRAN HAVE LEGITIMATE REASONS TO

BE SUSPICIOUS.

I HAVE TO REMIND THEM, THOUGH,THAT WHEN WE NEGOTIATED TO MAKE

SURE THAT THERE WERE SOME LIMITSON NUCLEAR TESTING WITH THE

SOVIET UNION, THE EVIL EMPIREWITH MISSILES TRAINED ON US

WHERE PEOPLE WERE CRAWLING,SCHOOL KIDS WERE CRAWLING UNDER

TABLES.

>> Jon: YOU'RE FREAKING MEOUT.

>> FOLKS TEND TO FORGET THAT.

THAT POSES A MUCH GREATERTHREAT.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAD TO GIVESOMETHING UP AND YET HISTORY

SHOWS IT WAS A WAY FOR US TO ATLEAST MAKE SURE THAT THERE

WASN'T CATASTROPHES EVEN IF THESYSTEM THEY'VE BUILT EVENTUALLY

FAILS.

IN THIS SITUATION WE'RE NOTGIVING SOMETHING UP.

A PRESIDENT'S OPTIONS 10 YEARSFROM NOW, 15 YEARS FROM NOW

WE'LL BE BETTER BECAUSE WE HAVEINSIGHT IN THE PROGRAM.

THEY WILL HAVE SENT OUT A WHOLEBUNCH OF ENRICHED MATERIAL THAT

THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THE BREAK UP TIMES WILL BELONGER THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHEREWE'RE UNILATERALLY DISARMING OR

BEING TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MAKING SURETHIS CRITICAL PROBLEM IS BEING

RESOLVED AND RECOGNIZE IS WESTILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.

IN TERMS OF THE MIDDLE EASTGENERALLY ...

>> YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO THEMIDDLE EAST, I SHOULD TAKE A

COMMERCIAL BREAK.

>> ARE YOU SURE.

>> Jon: WE'LL TAKE A BREAKAND COME BACK.

WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE IRANPACT WAS EXCELLENT AND ONCE THE

SENATE SHOOTS IT DOWN, WE'LLTALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

[LAUGHTER]WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE

[CROWD CHEERING]>> Jon: PRESIDENT BARACK

OBAMA.

THE MEDIA.

YOU LOVE THEM, THEY LOVE YOU.

SO IS YOUR FRUSTRATION SOMETIMESWITH THE MEDIA, IS THE MEDIA

MYSELF INCLUDED, ARE WE FOCUSEDON THE WRONG THINGS?

ARE WE DEMANDING TOO MUCH OFYOU?

ARE WE DEMANDING TOO MUCH OFGOVERNMENT?

ARE WE TOO INFLAMMATORY?

WHAT IS YOUR FEELING ON IT?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THE MEDIA'S ABUNCH OF DIFFERENT MEDIAS.

[LAUGHTER]THERE ARE SOME THAT GET ON MY

NERVES MORE THAN OTHERS.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR TO SAY.

I THINK I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUTIS NOT THAT IT'S UNFAIR OR THAT

IT'S TOO TOUGH ON GOVERNMENTBECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT

JOURNALISM AND MEDIA IS SUPPOSEDTO BE DOING.

I THINK IT GETS DISTRACTED BYSHINY OBJECTS.

[LAUGHTER]AND DOESN'T ALWAYS FOCUS ON THE

BIG TOUGH CHOICES AND DECISIONSTHAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

AND PART OF THAT IS JUST THECHANGING NATURE OF TECHNOLOGY.

IT IS VERY HARD NOW FOR FOLKS TODO AN HOUR LONG SPECIAL ON THE

OTHER AMERICA LET'S SAY OR SOMEOF THE OTHER CLASSIC

DOCUMENTARIES THAT WERE DONE ALONG TIME AGO.

IT'S TOUGH TO GET EVERYBODY'SATTENTION FOCUSED IN THE SAME

WAY.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THATON BIG TOUGH ISSUES, SOMETIMES

IT'S HARD TO GET THE ENTIRENATION'S ATTENTION FOCUSED ON

IT.

AND WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ONTHAT.

BUT LOOK, PART OF MY JOB ANDPART OF THE JOB OF EVERYBODY IN

THE WHITE HOUSE IS HOW DO WEADAPT TO THIS NEW ENVIRONMENT.

HOW ARE WE MORE NIMBLE.

HOW ARE WE DEALING WITH SOCIALMEDIA.

>> Jon: HAVE YOU DEALTAPPROPRIATELY WITH THE MEDIA.

WE KNOW MAYBE THE MEDIA'SPROBLEMS.

WHAT ABOUT TALKING POINTS>> ARE THEY USEFUL.

>> Jon: THEY COME FROM, ISTHAT SOMETHING THAT HAS, HAVE

PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT, HAVEPEOPLE IN ADMINISTRATION, HAS

YOUR OFFICE, HAVE YOURSELF, HAVEYOU BECOME TOO GUARDED IN THE

WAY THAT YOU SPEAK TO THEAMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO PRACTICE

IN THE ART OF SPIN, THAT THECONVERSATION BECOMES

MEANINGLESS.

>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TOSAY WE HAD NO TALKING POINTS.

WE HAVE TOO MANY TALKING POINTS.

>> Jon: NO.

CAN BE CONSTRUED AS EITHERINSINCERE OR --

>> HERE'S WHAT I SAY.

I THINK WHEN YOU ARE OUTSIDE OFGOVERNMENT, YOU FEEL

UNCONSTRAINED IN WAYS THAT WHENYOU ARE IN THE WHITEHOUSE, YOU

RECOGNIZE IF I MAKE THISCOMMENT, IT MAY MOVE THE MARKET

THAT WAY.

OR IF I MAKE THIS COMMENT, I'VEGOT TO MAKE SURE WHAT ARE OUR

ALLIES THINKING ABOUT THATINTERNATIONAL ISSUE.

SO PROBABLY EARLY ON, I THINKTHAT YOU'RE MORE CAUTIOUS.

I ALSO THINK THE STRUCTUREINSIDE THE WHITEHOUSE IS NOT

WELL ADAPTED TO THIS NEWENVIRONMENT.

WE WERE WAY TOO SLOW IN TRYINGTO REDESIGN AND REENGINEER THE

WHITEHOUSE PRESS OFFICE SO THATWE COULD HAVE MORE

UNCONVENTIONAL INTERACTIONS WITHTHE MEDIA AND MORE LONG FORM,

YOU PUT IT ON THE WEB.

YOU DON'T WORRY WHETHER IT'S ONA TIGHT TWO MINUTE PACKAGE GOING

ON THE NIGHTLY NEWS.

THERE'S A LEARNING PROCESSTHAT'S TAKEN PLACE.

BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, JON,OVERALL, I DON'T FEEL

PARTICULARLY GUARDED.

I JUST HAD A PRESS CONFERENCEABOUT IRAN WHERE NOT ONLY DID I

STAY THERE FOR AN HOUR, I SAIDWHO ELSE HAS GOT A QUESTION.

>> Jon: IF YOU DIDN'T FEELGOOD ABOUT THAT DEAL.

>> I THINK THE TRUTH OF THEMATTER IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF

TIMES WHERE I SAT THERE AND WETALKED A LOT ABOUT STUFF WHERE I

DID NOT FEEL AS GOOD ABOUT WHATHAD HAPPENED BUT I FEEL WE HAVE

TO BE ACCOUNTABLE.

OVERALL I THINK THAT THE PROBLEMWITH OUR INTERACTION WITH THE

MEDIA IS PROBABLY OVERSTATED.

I THINK WHAT'S UNDERSTATED ISTHE BALKANIZATION, THE SPLINTING

RING OF THE MEDIA SO IT'S HARDFOR US TO GET ONE CONVERSATION.

YOU HAVE FOLKS WHO ARECONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR FACTS

THAT REINFORCE THE POINT OF VIEWAS OPPOSED TO HAVING A COMMON

CONVERSATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TOTHINK ABOUT, NOT JUST THE

PRESIDENT BUT ALL OF US IS HOWDO WE JOIN TOGETHER IN A COMMON

CONVERSATION AROUND SOMETHINGOTHER THAN THE SUPER BOWL.

>> Jon: WHO DO YOU HAVE INTHE SUPER BOWL.

>> NOT THE BEARS RIGHT NOW.

>> Jon: NO.

WE'LL COME BACK MOREWITH PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> Jon: WE HAVE A LONGSEGMENT AND IT'S UP ON THE WEB

BUT CONCLUDING ON THIS I WANT TOTALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LOST IN

TERMS OF SHARED PURPOSE AS ACOUNTRY AND SACRIFICE.

WE HAVE THESE ENDLESS WARS.

IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS WE'RE INIRAQ, AFGHANISTAN.

YEMEN.

MILITARY FAMILIES.

LESS THAN 1% OF AMERICANS AREBEARING THE ENTIRE BRUNT OF

THIS.

THERE IS NO REAL SENSE OF SHAREDSACRIFICE.

WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT REALLYCHANGES THE PARADIGM, COLLEGE

BEING THREE YEARS AND THEN ONEYEAR OF SELECTIVE SERVICE.

THAT SELECTIVE SERVICE BEING IN,IT COULD BE SOCIAL SERVICE, IT

COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT BRINGING THE SENSE OFSACRIFICE BACK TO THE COUNTRY,

AND I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE,EVEN OLD PEOPLE COULD DO IT, I

WOULD DO IT.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE AWONDERFUL IDEA FOR US TO THINK

ABOUT HOW WE BUILD ON THENATIONAL SERVICE THAT CURRENT

EXISTS AND EXPAND IT.

NOW HOW PEOPLE RESPOND TO ITPOLITICALLY, HOW YOUNG PEOPLE

RESPOND, IT WOULD BEINTERESTING.

>> Jon: I THINK YOUNG PEOPLEWOULD EMBRACE IT AND OTHERS

WOULD SEE IT AS -->> SEE, HERE'S WHAT I, YOU KNOW

THE BEST EDUCATION I GOT WAS AFEW YEARS ME WORKING IN LOW

INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS AS ANORGANIZER NOT REALLY KNOWING

MUCH WHAT I WAS DOING.

BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT I WANTEDTO TRY TO COMMIT MYSELF TO

SOMETHING BIGGER THAN JUST ME.

AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE I MEETAROUND THE COUNTRY, AND BY THE

WAY AROUND THE WORLD, THEY HAVETHAT SAME SENSE.

THIS NOTION THAT YOUNG PEOPLEHAVE LOST THEIR IDEALISM OR

BEING CYNICAL OR IRONIC, IT'SNOT TRUE.

BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEMPATHWAYS TO GET THEM INVOLVED.

AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO EXPANDTHINGS LIKE AMERICOR AS MUCH AS

POSSIBLE.

PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO ISHOPEFULLY TIE IT MORE TO GETTING

A LOWER COST COLLEGE EDUCATIONSO THEY GET SCHOLARSHIPS IN

RETURN FOR THE WORK THEY'REDOING.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOODPLACE FOR US TO START.

WE'RE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THEMIDDLE EAST IN AN ISSUE LIKE

IRAN.

I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO PAYATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE.

AND LEARN ABOUT IT, AND THENCONTACT YOUR ELECTED

REPRESENTATIVES AND EXPRESS YOUROPINIONS.

I MEAN MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY'SGOING TO AGREE WITH ME ON THIS,

BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHEREWE HAVE A HUGE ISSUE OF WAR AND

PEACE, EITHER THE STOPPINGNUCLEAR WEAPONS THROUGH

DIPLOMACY OR POTENTIALLY WE HAVEA MILITARY OPTION.

YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF HOT HEADSAND PUNDITS AND FOLKS WHO ARE

NOT GOING TO BE MAKINGSACRIFICES IF IN FACT YOU END UP

IN A CONFLICT.

WHO ARE REPRIZING SOME OF THESAME POSITIONS WE SAW DURING THE

IRAQ WAR, NOT ASKING TOUGHQUESTIONS.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT HEARING FROMCITIZENS, THEN WE END UP MAKING

BAD CHOICES.

AND THE ONE THING I KNOW SINCE,AS I ENTER INTO THE LAST YEAR OF

MY PRESIDENCY, IS THAT THECOUNTRY IS FULL OF GOOD AND

DECENT PEOPLE.

AND THERE IS A SENSE OF COMMONPURPOSE AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

LEVEL.

AND IN THE SCHOOL AND THEWORKPLACE.

AND THAT DISSIPATES BECAUSE ALLTHE MONEY AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE

FILTERS AND ALL THE POLARIZINGTHAT TAKES PLACE IN TERMS OF HOW

OUR POLITICS TAKE SHAPE.

BUT THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT THATIS BY PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED.

IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT MUCH.

I GUARANTEE YOU IF PEOPLE FEELSTRONGLY ABOUT MAKING SURE IRAN

DOESN'T GET A NUCLEAR WEAPONWITHOUT GOING TO WAR AND THAT IS

EXPRESSED TO CONGRESS, THENPEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IN THAT.

AND THE SAME IS TRUE ON EVERYSINGLE ISSUE.

IF PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED,EVENTUALLY THE POLITICAL SYSTEM

RESPONDS DESPITE THE MONEY,DESPITE THE LOBBYISTS, IT

STILL RESPONDS.

>> Jon: SO FOR YOU AND THISMAY BE A CLOSING SEGMENT BECAUSE

OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THINGS TO DO.

I'M HERE ALL NIGHT.

I GUESS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY ISAFTER SEVEN YEARS, IS THAT THE

ADVICE THAT YOU THEN BEQUEATH TOFUTURE PRESIDENT TRUMP?

[LAUGHTER][APPLAUSE]

WELL, I'M SURE THE REPUBLICANSARE ENJOYING MR. TRUMP'S

DOMINANCE -->> Jon: ANYTHING THAT MAKES

THEM LOOK LESS CRAZY.

[APPLAUSE]THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STOPPING

BY.

IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEEYOU.

>> YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT GIFT TO THE COUNTRY

>> Jon: PRESIDENT BARACKOBAMA.

>> Jon: THAT'S OUR SHOW

HERE IT IS, YOUR MOMENT OF ZEN

>> I WANT TO INTRODUCE EVERYBODYWHO HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET

HER.

MS. EMMA GOODLAKE IF OUR OLDESTLIVING VETERAN.

110 YEARS OLD, BORN IN 1905.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

WE'RE HERE WITH PRESIDENT BARACKOBAMA -- SO THAT WAS GOOD.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THISIRAN DEAL.

YOU'RE FEELING VERY GOOD ABOUTTHAT.

I WANNA TALK TO YOU NOW -- YOUSPOKE WITH THE VFW TODAY FOR

OUR VETERAN'S.

BOY, ROUGH RIDE FOR THEVETERAN'S RECENTLY.

THIS TERRIBLE ATTACK INTENNESSEE.

>> HEARTBREAKING.

>> Jon: AND ALSO THOUGH ASYSTEMIC ISSUE, AND I KNOW YOU

RAISE IT WITH THE VA ANDHEALTHCARE.

>> WELL YOU KNOW THE SITUATIONWITH THE V.A. HAS ALWAYS BEEN,

WE MAKE A PROMISE BUT TOO OFTENUNDER RESOURCED.

SO IT IS MY FIRM BELIEF WE HAVEA SACRED DUTY TO THESE GUYS AND

GALS THAT WHEN THEY HAVE SERVEDUS AS BRAVELY AS THEY HAVE,

WHEN THEY COME HOME, WE'RESUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR THEM.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGETHISTORICALLY, IT'S BEEN

SHORT-CHANGED, WORSE IN THEVIETNAM ERA WHEN THEY CAME BACK.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TOSYSTEMATICALLY ADD RESOURCES TO

THE VA BUT YOU STILL HAVE THISMASSIVE STRUCTURE WITH MILLIONS

OF PEOPLE BEING SERVED.

AND WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO ISSYSTEMATICALLY WORK THROUGH

SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF A BIG,FREAKY BUREAUCRACY.

WHEN WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITHWAITING LISTS...

FOLKS ARE STILL TAKINGAPPOINTMENTS DOWN ON PAPER.

AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT MILLIONS OFPEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING SERVICES,

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.

SO WE'VE NOW BEEN ABLE TO CUTDOWN ON WAITING TIMES, REDUCE

THE BACKLOG FOR DISABILITYCLAIMS BY ABOUT 80%.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE MORE AND MOREPEOPLE COMING IN.

WE ALLOWED FOLKS WHO HADSYMPTOMS OF AGENT ORANGE FOR THE

FIRST TIME TO BE ABLE TO MAKECLAIMS.

THAT ADDED A COUPLE HUNDREDTHOUSAND PEOPLE.

AS WE END TWO WARS, FOLKS COMEBACK.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE 2.7 MILLIONMORE VETERANS SPEAKING SERVICES.

IF THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCESDOESN'T CHANGE, THEN THEY GET

SHORT-CHANGED.

SO WE'VE GOT TO DO EFFICIENCYWORK ON THE VA BUT WE ALSO ASKED

CONGRESS TO GET OUT FROM UNDERTHE SEQUESTER, THIS IDEA WE JUST

MAKE BLANKET BUDGET CUTS THATSOMEHOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE

OUR ECONOMY.

AND THE VERY SAME FOLKS WHO AREGOING TO CUT SERVICES ARE THE

FIRST ONES THEN TO SAY WHY ARETHE FOLKS HAVING WAITING TIMES

SO LONG.

>> Jon: IT'S A WAITING TIMEISSUE, TO BE FAIR, HAPPENED FAR

BEFORE THE SEQUESTER.

IT BRINGS UP SORT OF A LARGERISSUE WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN,

OKAY, THERE IS A PARTY THATBELIEVES THAT GOVERNMENT DOES

NOT HAVE AS LARGE A ROLE TO PLAYIN OUR LIVES AS THE PARTY THAT

YOU ARE WITH.

WHICH MEANS INSTANCES INCUMBENTMAY BE UPON THAT PARTY, THE ONE

THAT YOU ARE WITH, TODEMONSTRATE HOW THAT WILL

WORK IN THE 21st CENTURY.

HOW CAN THE GOVERNMENT BE AGILE,AND WITH THE V.A. SEEMS TO BE A

LARGER ISSUE, YOU CAME INTOOFFICE IN 2009 EXPLICITLY SAYING

YOU SPEND A BILLION DOLLARSPRYING TO GET OPERABILITY

BETWEEN THE D.O.D AND V.A.

COULDN'T DO IT AFTER... FIVEYEARS?

WENT BACK AND SAID LET'S DO ITSEPARATELY.

MORE MONEY.

THAT DIDN'T WORK.

NOW THEY'RE BACK, THE V.A.'S GOTA PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM WAITING FOR

THE D.O.D.

THEY'VE NOT EVEN GONE OUT YETWITH A $11 BILLION CONTRACT.

YOU'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, YOUKNOW WHERE EVERYBODY IS --

>> SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.

A COUPLE THINGS I'LL SAY.

NUMBER ONE, GOVERNMENT WORKSBETTER NOW THAN IT PROBABLY EVER

HAS GIVEN WHAT WE ASK IT TO DO.

AND ACROSS AGENCIES, THERE HAVEBEEN ALL KINDS OF REFORMS AND

IMPROVEMENTS AND PEOPLE THEREWORK HARD AND THEY CARE ABOUT

THIS STUFF DEEPLY.

BUT WHAT IS TRUE IS IF YOU HAVEA GOVERNMENT THAT WAS BUILT ON

1930 MODELS AND IT'S NOTUPDATED, THEN THERE'S GOING TO

BE A GAP IN TERMS OF WHATTHEY'RE DOING NOW RELATIVE TO

WHAT SOME OTHER FOLKS DO.

AND I.T. IS PROBABLY THE BIGGESTEXAMPLE OF THAT.

WE'RE HAVING TO COMPLETELYREDESIGN HOW THE GOVERNMENT

PURCHASES I.T. SERVICES, HOW ITDOES DIGITAL, FROM SOUP TO NUTS.

AND PART OF IT IS THE WAY IT'SBEEN SET UP IS THAT YOU HAVE THE

SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE THISTHICK.

WHEN ON A CHAIN AND SETTING UPMY OPERATIONS I HAVE GUYS IN

T-SHIRTS IN A ROOM FIGURING OUTHOW TO DO THIS THING.

THAT'S NOT HOW THE GOVERNMENT ISSET UP.

IT'S SLOW AND IT DOESN'TFUNCTION PROPERLY.

YOU ASKED ME WHAT I WANT TO DOOVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.

A LOT OF THIS STUFF DOESN'TREQUIRE CONGRESS, BUT HOW IT IS

WE CAN REVAMP THE SYSTEMS ANDWE'VE DONE IT SUCCESSFULLY IN

CERTAIN AREAS.

BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT TWO MILLIONEMPLOYEES THEN THERE ARE GOING

TO BE PLACES WHERE THIS SLIPS.

>> Jon: TO SOME EXTENT THAT'STHE POINT.

YOU GOT TWO MILLION EMPLOYEESAND YOU WANT THIS TO BE AGILE.

THE V.A. SYSTEM.

YOU CAN'T FIND A BETTER ISSUEPOLITICALLY.

YOU CAN'T -- YOU'LL FIND BUTYOU'LL FIND ALMOST ANONYMOUS

AGREEMENT BUT WE HAVE FAILEDTHESE VETERANS AND UNANIMOUS

AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO DOBETTER YET SEVEN YEARS INTO IT,

WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TODEMONSTRATE --

>> WAIT WAIT -- THE REASON IT'SBACK UP IS YOU GOT 2.7 MILLION

NEW FOLKS COMING BACK IN.

>> Jon: WELL WHEN YOU START ALOT OF WARS -- IT'S GOTTA END.

>> HOLD ON A SECOND. HERE'S THEGENERAL POINT.

WE ASK OUR GOVERNMENT TO DOTHINGS THAT OTHER FOLKS DON'T

WANT TO DO BECAUSE YOU CAN'TMAKE MONEY AT IT.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT PROFITABLE.

AND SO WE WANT GOVERNMENT TOHELP MAKE SURE THAT KIDS GET

OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEY HAVE TO REACH THE TOUGHEST TO REACH KIDS.

THE KIDS AT THE PRIVATE SCHOOLSGENERALLY SCREEN OUT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARESERVING OUR VETERANS INCLUDING

THE OLDEST, POOREST VETERANS.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY INDOING THAT.

AND SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLEWILL SAY WELL WHY ISN'T THIS

HAPPENING AS QUICK, AS FAST.

IF WE'RE UNDER RESOURCING OURGOVERNMENT AND NOT STAFFING IT

THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE TO DOEVERYTHING TO BE DONE, THEN

WE SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THATTHERE ARE GOING TO BE GAPS.

WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE CAN WEMAKE STUFF A LOT BETTER THAN IT

HAS BEEN.

>> Jon: THE ENEMY OF GOOD.

>> PART OF THE PROBLEM IS ITHINK WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO,

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WHEN THERE WAS THAT PROBLEM WITHTHE IRS.

EVERYBODY JUMPED INCLUDING YOU.

>> Jon: WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIRS?

>> LOOK YOU GOT THIS BACK OFFICEAND THEY'RE GOING AFTER THE TEA

PARTY.

IT TURNED OUT NO, CONGRESS HAS ACRUMMY LAW THAT DIDN'T GIVE

PEOPLE GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF WHATTHEY ARE TRYING TO DO.

THEY DID IT POORLY AND STUPIDLY.

BUT THAT BECOMES --

>> Jon: YOU REALLY ONLY DO HAVEA YEAR LEFT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> NO -- BUT HOLD ON, JON.

THIS IS IMPORTANT.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER ISTHAT THERE WAS NOT SOME BIG

CONSPIRACY THERE.

THEY WERE TRYING TO SORT OUTTHESE CONFLICTING DEMANDS.

YOU DON'T WANT ALL THIS MONEYPOURING THROUGH NOT-FOR-PROFITS

BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE SUREEVERYBODY IS BEING TREATED

FAIRLY.

THE REAL SCANDAL AROUND THE IRSIS THAT IT HAS BEEN SO POORLY

FUNDED THAT THEY CAN'T GO AFTERTHESE, WE CANNOT GO AFTER THESE

FOLKS WHO ARE DELIBERATELYDELETING TAX PAYMENTS.

AND THE REAL SCANDAL IS TAXCODES WHERE MULTINATIONALS CAN

PAY ZERO TAXES MAKING MASSIVEPROFITS.

SO WE TEND TO GET DISTRACTED BYTHE FACT THAT THERE ARE GOING TO

BE ELEMENTS, BECAUSE GOVERNMENTIS A HUMAN ENTERPRISE WHERE,

SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE IS SCREWINGUP AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE SYSTEM.

OVERALL, IT WORKS REALLY WELL TOHELP A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WHAT THE SCANDALOUS IS THE FACTTHAT WE ARE NOT MAKING AS MUCH

PROGRESS AS WE SHOULD ON THEBASIC THINGS THAT WE KNOW OUR

GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING.

REBUILDING OURINFRASTRUCTURE, REBUILDING OUR

ROADS, REBUILDING OUR PORTS,SETTING UP A SYSTEM FOR

DISTRIBUTING ENERGY, MAKING SUREWE HAVE EARLY CHILDHOOD

EDUCATION.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THATPART OF MY JOB FOR THE LAST

SEVEN YEARS AND PART OF MY JOBOVER THESE LAST, THIS LAST YEAR

COMING UP IS TO CONTINUALLYIMPROVE AND MAKE SURE THE

GOVERNMENT IS FUNCTIONING ASWELL AS IT COULD.

BUT YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS ANEXCUSE FOR THE BIG STRUCTURAL

PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHTNOW THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED

ADDRESSED, TYPICALLY THAT HAS TOBE --

>> Jon: THAT'S WHAT I WANT TOGET TO IS THAT VISION OF WHAT

21ST CENTURY GOVERNMENT LOOKSLIKE OUTSIDE OF THE

POLITICALIZATION OF IT.

HOW DO YOU GOVERN AND DO THESERVICES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

WHILE BEING IN THAT SITUATION.

AND IF IT'S FOUR GUYS IN AT-SHIRT, ISN'T THERE AN

EXECUTIVE OPTION THAT CAN, THATCAN CUT THROUGH.

>> HERE'S WHAT WE DO.

>> Jon: YES, YOU'RE THECOMMANDER IN CHIEF.

>> AFTER THE HEALTHCARE.GOVFIASCO, WE BROUGHT IN A TEAM

OF GUYS BASICALLY VOLUNTEERINGTHEIR OWN TIME FROM GOOGLE,

FACEBOOK, GUYS IN T-SHIRTS.

THEY'RE NOT WEARING T-SHIRTSNOW.

THEY'VE DRESSED UP A LITTLE BIT,ALTHOUGH NOT THAT WELL.

[LAUGHTER]

AND WE HAVE CREATED WHATWE'RE CALLING THE U.S. DIGITAL

SERVICES AND WE'REBASICALLY GETTING THEM IN FOR A

YEAR OR TWO YEARS AND WE'RE JUSTPUTTING THEM ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF

THESE PROBLEMS.

WHETHER IT'S HOW DO WE MAKE ANS.B.A. LOAN EASIER TO GET.

HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THISAGENCY IS MORE CUSTOMER

FRIENDLY.

HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLECAN GO TO ONE WEBSITE INSTEAD OF

16 TO FIND OUT THE INFORMATIONTHEY NEED.

SO THESE GUYS ARE SPREADING OUTTHROUGHOUT THE GOVERNMENT AND

THEY ARE IN FACT SYSTEMATICALLYCHIPPING AWAY AT A LOT OF THESE

PROBLEMS.

AND I THINK WE WILL, BY THE TIMEI LEAVE HERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE

ABLE TO SAY THAT GOVERNMENT ISWORKING MUCH BETTER, MUCH MORE

EFFICIENTLY, MUCH MORE CUSTOMERFRIENDLY THAN WHEN I CAME INTO

OFFICE.

>> Jon: IT FRUSTRATES YOUBECAUSE I CAN TELL WE'RE TALKING

HAVING A NICE TIME TALKING ABOUTTHE IRAN DEAL, I THINK IT'S

FRUSTRATING TO YOU.

>> OF COURSE.

>> Jon: BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKEWE'RE AMPLIFYING THINGS OUT OF

PROPORTION.

I MIGHT AGREE WITH THAT ONCERTAIN ISSUES.

>> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

>> Jon: THE V.A. THOUGH, I WOULDTAKE ISSUES --

>> NO, NO.

THE ISSUES WITH THE V.A. IS --IF THERE'S ONE VETERNA NOT

GETTING THE SERVICES THEY NEED,THEN WE'RE FAILING THAT

VERTERAN, AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELYCRITICAL.

LET'S TALK ABOUTHOMLESSNESS AMONG VETERANS.

WE'VE CUT THAT BY A THIRD.

WE'VE GOT TWO THIRDS OF THESEFOLKS WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE

HAVE PROPER HOUSING BECAUSE IFTHEY FOUGHT FOR US THEY SHOULD

BE ABLE TO FIND A HOME HERE INTHE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

>> Jon: SURE.

[APPLAUSE]

>> BUT THIS GOES FOR THELARGER POINT.

YOU ASKED ME HOW AM I DOING ANDAM I FEELING PRETTY GOOD RIGHT

NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PROUD OF,AND THIS IS NOT JUST ME, IS WE

HAVE LOOKED AT A WHOLE SLEW OFPROBLEMS WHEN WE CAME INTO

OFFICE.

AND WE SAID WHERE CAN WE ADVANCETHE BALL DOWN THE FIELD EACH AND

EVERY TIME ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND WE DON'T SCORE A TOUCH DOWNEVERY TIME, BUT WE MOVE THE BALL

FORWARD.

>> Jon: DO YOU FEEL LIKEYOU'VE HIT THE METRICS THAT YOU

WANTED TO HIT.

>> YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO FALLSHORT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HITTING

YOUR MARK THAT MEANS YOU DIDN'TSET THEM HIGH ENOUGH, RIGHT.

SO IN HEALTHCARE --

>> Jon: AM I BEING UNREASONABLETO YOU, AM I BEING UNFAIR

SUGGESTING IN THIS ONE INSTANCE,GOVERNMENT FAILED TO ADDRESS A

PROBLEM IN AN APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME, FAILED TO DO IT --

>> I THINK YOU'RE BEING ENTIRELYFAIR THAT THE VA HAS NOT DONE

WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO IN TERMS OFOUR VETERANS, OKAY.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S BUILTUP OVER 50 YEARS.

AND THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES --

>> Jon: WHOSE FAULT IS IT.

>> Jon: NO, NO, NO.

>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WESET THE RIGHT BENCHMARKS SO THAT

WE KNOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESSAND WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT

DIRECTION.

AND THAT'S TRUE ON ALL THISSTUFF.

WHEN WE PASSED HEALTHCARE, THEREWAS A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT A

SINGLE PAYER PLAN WOULD BEBETTER.

WE NEED A PUBLIC OPTION OR THEWHOLE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES.

AND A LOT OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS IAGREED WITH.

BUT WHAT I KNEW WAS, GIVEN THELEGACY SYSTEM WE'VE INHERITED,

GIVEN THE POLITICS OF THISCOUNTRY, GIVEN PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS

AFRAID OF SOMETHING NEW, GIVENOBSTRUCTION AND RESISTANCE FROM

THE OTHER SIDE.

FOR US TO GET THIS DONE ANDSUDDENLY HAVE 16 MILLION PEOPLE

WHO HAVE HEALTHCARE WHO DIDN'THAVE IT BEFORE AND A HUNDRED

PLUS MILLION PEOPLE WHO KNOWTHAT IF THEY LOSE THEIR JOB

TOMORROW, THEY CAN STILL GETHEALTHCARE EVEN IF THEY GOT

PREEXISTING CONDITION.

KNOWING THAT A WHOLE BUNCH OFIANPEOPLE SUDDENLY ARE ABLE TO GET

HEALTHCARE UNDER THEIR PARENTSPLAN? I'LL TAKE THAT.

AND GOING BACK TO THE IRANDEAL --

[APPLAUSE]

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAY WELLON IRAN, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST

COMPLETELY ELIMINATE ALLVEST VESTIGES OF ANY

NUCLEAR PROGRAM PROGRAMS.

HERE'S THE REASON.

A, THERE'S NO REASON THEY WOULDEVER DO THAT.

B, THE REASON WE GOT THEM TO THETABLE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE

COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA AND RUSSIAEVEN WITH ALL THE DISAGREEMENTS

WE HAVE, WE'RE ABLE TO ORGANIZETHEM TO FOCUS, MAKING SURE THEY

DIDN'T HAVE A BOMB.

AND TO KEEP THAT INTERNATIONALCOALITION TOGETHER AND SANCTIONS

TOGETHER, WHAT THAT MEANT WAS WEHAD TO TAKE SOME CONSIDERATION

INTO IRAN'S SAVING FACE AS THEYMOVE FORWARD ON THIS DEAL.

AS LONG AS WE KNEW THEY WEREN'TGOING TO GET A BOMB.

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING JON ISTHAT IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO FOCUS

ON WHAT THREE QUARTERS OF WHATYOU GET YOUR JOB IS TO POINTED

OUT WHAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN.

THAT'S WHY OUR DEMOCRACY WORKSIS BECAUSE WE KEEP ON MAKING

IMPROVEMENTS.

>> Jon: YOU'RE GOING TO GOWITH THIS WHOLE

SANDWICH ANALOGY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> BUT WHAT WE CAN'T LOSESIGHT OF, I GUESS WHAT I DO

FIGHT AGAINST --

>> Jon: I FEEL IT.

>> NO, NO.

>> Jon: I FELT THE MOOD CHANGE. I FELT IT.

>> HERE'S WHAT I FIGHT AGAINST.

WHAT I FIGHT AGAINST IS THATCYNICISM, I'M NOT SAYING -- THE

CYNICISM THAT IS FED BY THISNOTION THAT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T

GET STUFF DONE.

AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER ISTHAT WHETHER IT'S OUR MILITARY

OR ALL KINDS OF PUBLIC SERVANTSIN THE VA OR IN AG OR IN ALL OF

THE AGENCIES THAT WORK AT IT,EVERY SINGLE DAY THERE'S A BUNCH

OF STUFF THAT IS GETTING DONETHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND

HELPS A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND IF THOSE OF US WHO BELIEVETHE GOVERNMENT HAS SOME, IN THE

INTEREST OF FAIRNESS OROBJECTIVITY OR WHAT HAVE YOU,

DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE AND FOCUS ONTHE ENORMOUS SUCCESSES BUT ALSO

THE FACT THAT YES THERE'S AHUMAN ENTERPRISE, THERE'S GOING

TO BE SOME TRADE OFFS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODYSOMEWHERE SCREWING OFF.

WHEN PROBLEMS COME UP THEYSHOULD BE FIXED.

SOMETIMES NOT AS FAST AS THEYSHOULD.

WHEN WE LOSE SIGHT OF THAT WEARE LEADING INTO THIS NARRATIVE

THAT BASICALLY SAYS THERE'SNOTHING WE CAN DO.

THEN WHAT WE GET ARE THE PROTESTMOVEMENTS ON THE LEFT OR THE

RIGHT.

TO SOME DEGREE THE TEA PARTY ISAN EXPRESSION OF FRUSTRATION.

THEY SEE A BUNCH OF STUFF GOINGON THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THEY FEEL THREATENED BY AND THEYREACT.

INCLUDING ME.

[LAUGHTER]

>> Jon: YOU MAKE THEM SOUNDLIKE BUNNIES.

[LAUGHTER]

>> SO I JUST, I MEAN THEONE THING THAT I FEEL DEEPLY

ABOUT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING IFEEL DEEPLY ABOUT WHEN I LEAVE

GOVERNMENT IS STUFF GETSBETTER IF WE WORK AT IT AND WE

STAY FOCUSED ON WHERE WE'REGOING.

IT DOESN'T IMMEDIATELY GET ALLSOLVED.

AND I WARNED AGAINST THIS WHEN IWAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE BECAUSE

EVERYBODY HAD HOPE POSTERS ANDTHIS AND THAT AND EVERYBODY WAS

FEELING --

>> Jon: HEY WE DIDN'TMAKE THOSE, YOU MADE THOSE.

>> NO, NO.

[APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: I'M PRETTY SURE THATCAME FROM YOU.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IFYOU LOOK AT WHAT I SAID AT THE

TIME, I SAID THIS IS GOING TOBE AN ONGOING PROJECT.

AND IT'S A PROJECT OF CITIZENS.

IT'S NOT JUST FIX THIS.

IT'S HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TOGET THINGS DONE.

AND IT ISN'T PERFECT BUT OVERTIME IT GETS BETTER.

AND HERE'S THE THING I CAN SAY,JON.

I CAN SAY THIS UNEQUIVOCALLY.

THE V.A. IS BETTER NOW THAN WHENI CAME INTO OFFICE.

IT IS BETTER NOW THAN WHEN ICAME INTO OFFICE.

GOVERNMENT WORKS BETTER THANWHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE.

THE ECONOMY BY EVERY METRIC ISBETTER THAN WHEN I CAME INTO

OFFICE.

AND SO THE REASON I CAN SLEEP ATNIGHT IS I SAID TO MYSELF DO YOU

KNOW WHAT, IT'S BETTER.

[APPLAUSE]

NOW, AM I SATISFIED WITH IT? NO.

AND SHOULD VOTERS BE SATISFIEDWITH IT?

ABSOLUTELY NOT BECAUSE OTHERWISEIF WE GET COMPLACENT AND LAZY,

THEN STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN.

>> Jon: NO, THAT'S TOTALLY WHATI WAS SAYING.

>> YOU AND ME, WE'RE RIGHTTHERE.

>> Jon: CAN I TELL YOUSOMETHING.

>> YOU CAN.

>> Jon: I HAVE NO IDEA WHEREWE ARE COMMERCIAL WISE.

I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO JUSTTHROW TO COMMERCIAL.

HERE'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

WE'LL GO TO A COMMERCIAL.

WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK MORE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUTNEXT.

I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU,WHATEVER THE SUBJECT MATTER IS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MOREFROM PRESIDENT OBAMA.