June 20, 2016 - Jim Himes and Jack Garratt

  • 06/20/2016

Donald Trump fires his campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Rep. Jim Himes explains how the NRA influences Congress, and Jack Garratt performs songs from his album "Phase."

big congratulationsto the new NBA champions--

the Cleveland Cavaliers.

What a great moment for the cityof Cleveland, right?

-What an amazing moment.-(cheers and applause)

A city that went 52 yearswithout a national championship.

And after next month'sGOP convention,

might go another 52 yearswithout a city.

It was a storybook ending.

You know, LeBron returns hometo give his city the title.

And in the process, I think

he may have picked upa brand-new sponsor-- Kleenex.

MAN:The emotions for LeBron James,

who delivers on his promise

to come homeand bring a championship.

-(Bleep).-I set out a goal. Two years.

And I came back to bring a championship to the city.

I poured my heartand my blood, my sweat,

my tears to this game, and....


He looks likethe cutest, biggest,

most dangerousteddy bear ever, isn't he?


I love how black guysonly let themselves show emotion

when they wina sports relationship.

Like, every other time,it's like,

"Yeah, man, my Pops leftwhen I was young.

"It is what it is,but that's why

(crying): "this high scorein air hockey means so much

"to me right now.

Thank you, Jesus!Thank you so much."

But let's move on nowto the presidential race

where one candidatehas just taken a big step

toward makinghis campaign great again.

It's a big shakeupfor the Donald Trump campaign

just weeks before the Republicanconvention is set to begin.

Trump campaign's manager,Corey Lewandowski, is out.

Lewandowski has been partof Trump's inner circle

from the very beginning,from even before day one.

He is part of that sort oforiginal group

of Trump supporterswho were with him

since he came downthat escalator at Trump Tower.

Ah, yes, the escalatorthat brought us Trump.

It almost seems like whoeverwas on that escalator ride

got to be partof the Trump campaign.

It doesn't seemlike they were planned.

Like, Trump was just ridingand going, "Who is this guy?

I like his style.I like him. He's on."

"Uh, sir,that is the escalator railing."

"Yeah, I want himon the campaign.

I need more black support.I'll take it."

-(laughter and groaning) -"Uh,sir, I don't think you can..."

"Hurry! He's getting awayHe's getting away!"


So it appears

Corey Lewandowski's gripon power was not as strong

as his gripon young female reporters.

And I can only imagine whatit must have been like for him

when Donald Trump told himthat he was off the campaign.

You know, Lewandowski probablywalked into the conference room.

Trump was sitting in a big chairbehind a mahogany table,

and Trump looked at himand said...

(dramatic music plays)

"Corey... your servicesare no longer necessary."


(dramatic music plays)

"You're a liability to thecampaign and need to leave.

Oh, and one more thing."

(dramatic music plays)

"You're... fired up,

and that'll serve you wellin the future."


"Oh, an you're fired."

Uh, now firing his controversialcampaign manager

as he pivots tothe general election may be one

of the smartest decisionsthis entire campaign.

And just like most of Trump'sother smart decisions,

it turns outsomeone else made it.

We hear from sourcesinside the campaign

that it really wasDonald Trump's children

who were responsiblefor the final decision.

First and foremost,

I'm told that it washis daughter Ivanka.

She said, "Either he goes,or I can't do this anymore."


-Ivanka with the ultimatum.-(laughter)

-"It's either him or me."-(laughter)

I meanwhen she puts it that way,

it's really no choicefor Donald Trump at all.

Because, I mean, let's face it--he can't fire his daughter.

And he can't banghis campaign manager.

-(laughter and groaning)-So...

(applause and cheering)

Now there may be many reasons

why Ivanka wantedto get rid of Lewandowski.

I mean, one of them could bethat under his management,

Trump's pollshave dropped faster

-than Carly Fiorina on a podium.-(laughter)

And... and it's not justin the polls.

Some of those high-profileRepublican lawmakers declined

to go anywherenear the latest round

of comments from Donald Trump.

-I'll late for, so... -...saidyesterday that made you.

MAN: They'll duck into offices...

-I've got a quick...-I know you do.

...cut off interviews.

And they'll avoid uttering his name.

MAN: Majority Whip John Cornyn is done

talking about Trump until after the election.

Yeah, I'm not gonna becommenting

on the presidential candidatetoday.

It seems that like it's now,"I don't want to comment,"

and justto run out the clock here.

Yeah. Welcome to our world.

They senators look likesuch idiots

ducking into random rooms,you know?

That's all they're doingthe whole time,

just to avoidtalking about Trump.

Like, if I was them,I would just make sure

that I'm carrying somethingI can eat the entire time.

And then, if the reportersjumped out and were like,

"Sir, can we ask youabout Donald Trump?

Senator, Senator,what do you think about Trump?",

I'd just be like...(muffled speech)


"Senator, what are you eating?"

-"It's a dick. It's a dick."-(laughter)

"I'm eating a dick.I'm eating a dick.

-I didn't want to... A dick."-(applause and cheering)

And you know, the truth isit's easy to see

why Republicans don't want to beassociated with Donald Trump.

I mean,he keeps giving them reasons.

Just like last week,when he let everyone know

that he's getting the bandback together.

I called for a banafter San Bernardino,

and was metwith great scorn and anger.

But many are sayingthat I was right to do so.

And althoughthe pause is temporary,

we must find outwhat is going on.

We have to do it.

We have to stop peoplefrom pouring into our country.

-We have to stop it.-(applause and cheering)

Until we find outwhat the hell is going on.

Look, man, anyone who's beenin a relationship will tell you

there's no such thingas a temporary ban.

You don'ttemporarily pause anything.

If someone ever tells you

that they want to take atemporary pause, you're single.


Yeah, Trump insistsit's temporary.

It's like,what, after seven months,

he's gonna come and be like,

"Muslims, Muslims,it's cool now!

"I figured outwhat was going on!

"Come on back!

"It turns outthere's a very small subset

"of radical Wahhabistswho believe in violent jihad

"and that has nothing to do

"with the vast majorityof peaceful Muslims.

Why didn't anyone tell me?!"

(cheers and applause)


It's obvious.

It's obvious why Trumpis having such a tough month.

It's because

he won't stop sayingcrazy (bleep) all the time.


There was Trump's big thought

on how the Orlando shootingcould have been stopped.

MAN: Trump endorsed by the National Rifle Association,

said that if some club-goers had been armed,

the tragedy could have been less horrific.

If some of thosewonderful people had guns

strapped right here,right to their waist,

or right to their ankle,

and one of the people inthat room happened to have it,

and goes "boom, boom,"you know what?

That would have beena beautiful,

beautiful sight, folks.

(audience murmuring, groaning)

Boom, boom?

Right in the fore...?

I'm sorry, but if you ever thinkthat someone being shot,

whether criminal or otherwise,can be described

as a beautiful, beautiful sight,you are one deranged (bleep).

(laughter,applause and cheering)

You're not describing...a killing.

You're describing a sunset.

Like, Donald Trump,what is wrong with you?

You know, now, Republicanswho are really nervous

about Trump's candidacydo actually have another option.

You see, we found this out,but on Friday,

a former Trump advisortold Politico

that he thinks Donald Trumpwould drop out of the race

if someone offered him$150 million. Yeah.

Which, I know, sounds likea Kickstarter waiting to happen,

but... but... there's a catch.

I hear these,like, little rumors.

"He wants 150 million dol..."Do you believe this?

You could offer mefive times that amount,

and I wouldn't do it.

One of the peoplewas supposedly quoted,

"He might do it for $5 billion."

Now, for $5 billion, I guess wehave to think about it, right?

(crowd laughter)



I love... I love how Trump'shonesty always betrays him.

Yeah, he can't hold it in.

Because most politicians know,because it's fictional money,

you should turn it downin a sanctimonious manner

that makes you look patriotic.

You got to be like,"There's no amount of money

"that can buy my pride!

You can't buy America!"

And Trump's like,"Uh, yeah, you can.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."

Mr. Trump, what are you doing?It's fictional money!

It doesn't matter.All my money is fictional money.

Now I'll have 15 billionfictional dollars...!

Now, in the wakeof the Orlando shooting,

each house of congresshad its own way

of responding to the tragedy.

Uh, in the senate today,

they debated four differentgun control measures.

Now, we're taping this showwhile they're voting,

so technically,before the vote comes in.

So while you know thatthese measures didn't pass,

-we don't know that yet.-(laughter)

Uh, but last week,in the House of Representatives,

there was no such debate.

But they did follow theirpost-mass shooting tradition

of observinga moment of silence.

Well, some of them did.

Silence.That is how the leadership

of the most powerful countryin the world will respond

to this week's massacreof its citizens.

Silence. Not me. Not anymore.

I will no longer stand hereabsorbing the faux concern,

contrived gravity,and tepid smugness

of a house complicitin the weekly bloodshed.

Joining me now to discuss thisis Connecticut congressman,

-Jim Himes, everybody!-(cheering, applause)

-Hi, Trevor.-Thank you so much.

Thank you for being here.Thank you for being here.

Thank you so muchfor being here.

Really powerful words.

You've seen mass shootingafter mass shooting.

You've had to observethese moments of silence

over and over again.

What took youto your breaking point?

You know, it was Sunday,and as it happened,

I bumped into one of the fathersof a child

that we lost in Sandy Hook.

And Connecticut's a small place;we know the families,

we know, uh, the teachers.

And I bumped into Mark Barden--

who's here with us tonight,actually,

who lost his son at Sandy Hook--and I imagined telling him,

you know, Mark, this is...

I've probably donea dozen moments of silence.

Here you got 435 people who,with about three hours of work,

could pass a bunch of billsthat are supported

by 80%, 90%of the American public,

doing whatwe are designed to do,

but we're not gonna do that.Instead, what we're gonna do is

we're gonnastop talking about sports

and stop talking about dinner

and stop talkingabout Donald Trump

for eight seconds--we're gonna be quiet.

We're gonna put on our seriousface, and we're gonna be quiet.

How do you feel about that?And I realized that

those moments of silencedon't honor anybody.

-Yeah. -They are emblematicof congressional negligence

on this issue.

-(applause)-You're looking at, um...

You're looking at a situationwhere, as you said,

80%, 90% of the public isbehind a lot of these measures.

How do you consolidate thatbetween congress and the public?

I mean, this... shouldn'tcongress be trying to enact,

you know, what the people want?

Aren't you supposedto be governing the people?

Isn't that what the functionof the system should be?

I don't understand it.How do people out there...

You know, what do you sayto someone who goes,

"This is crazy-- 90% of us..."

Or are the ten percentjust really, really convincing?

-Is that what it is? -You know,you have what's called

an "intensity problem,"which is that

the very small number of peoplewho are willing,

not even to enter intothe conversation, you know,

who, whatever you say--you know, you can point out

the fact that, you know,if you really believe

that the only wayto stop a bad guy with a gun

is a good guy with a gun,well, we got a lot of good guys

with a gun in this countryand we have a huge problem

that no other country has.

You know, they're out therejust saying... spreading fear.

And the fear isthat the president's coming

to take away your guns-- that'sthe Wayne LaPierre special.

Or the fear is that, you know,it's a dangerous world

-and you better arm yourself.-But how do they translate

that fear into congress, though?I mean, I understand,

as a layman on the streeteveryone can fall for this.

But in congress,the lawmakers themselves,

-how is this applying to you?-Right. Right.

Well, you know,particularly, look,

there's a partisan divide here--not perfectly,

but there's a partisan divide,and an awful lot of my good,

uh, friendson the other side of the aisle

think that if they enter intoa common-sensical conversation

-about things that shouldbe easy to talk about, -Yes.

um, they will get primary'd

by somebodywho levels that fear at them.

-In other words...-Does the NRA have that power?

Like, can the NRA genuinely say,"Hey, Mr. Republican,

"we don't like whatyou're saying about guns.

We're going to get someoneto fill your seat."

-Do they have that power? -Well,it's not that they can say that,

they do say that, and of course,they said that this week

when they knew thatthese bills would come up.

And in a disjointedand complicated political time--

-and it is that right now---Yes.

there's a lot of fearamongst my colleagues, too.

So again, the NRA is-ispartly powerful for their money,

but they're mainly powerfulbecause for years now

they have been spreading fearthat causes Americans to say,

well, we're not evengonna have that conversation.

And of course, that translates

into theirrepresentative government.

How do the peopleout there do it?

Because I-I... after Orlando,the one thing I saw,

on Twitter, you know, everyone,"our thoughts and prayers,"

and what do we do,how do we... how do we help?

You know, we wantto donate blood, we want to...

-People want to do something.-Yeah.

People want to bea part of the change,

but a lot of it feelslike people don't know

-how to be a part of the change.-Yeah.

So how can the public help you?

How can the public help congressto get its job done?

We need more advocacy, and weneed it in those swing states.

We talk a lotabout swing states.

Look, you know, all seven of usin the state of Connecticut--

the five members of congressand the two senators--

we're on board.But in those swing states--

states like Ohio,Pennsylvania, North Carolina--

people need to stand up and sayof their elected officials,

"I care so much about thisthat my vote is at stake."

They need to make that case.And then it's up to all of us

to stop the insane debatethat the NRA wants us to have.

-Yeah. -They want to say: Areyou pro-gun are you anti-gun?

Well, what about me? I supportSecond Amendment rights.

I actually likerecreational shooting.

But you know what?I believe that we ought

to probably test peopleand make sure

there's as much licensingand regulation around a gun

as there isaround an automobile.

-(applause, whooping, whistling)-Yeah. Well, I mean...

It is, uh...

it's always shocking to methat...

that somehow the conversationhas been convoluted

to a point where peoplehave been made to believe

that licensing somehow infringeson their rights.

And really, that'sjust responsible ownership

of these weapons.

We've got a big Bill of Rights.with all kinds of rights,

and not a single one of themis absolute.

You know,the one we talk about most

is the First Amendment--yes, we have a right

to free speech,but there's all kinds

-of restrictions on that:no screaming "fire" -Yeah.

in a crowded theater, et cetera.

So that's the kind of discussionwe need to have,

and we should have it withpeople who say, wait a second,

we have a huge problemin this country--

30,000 gun deaths.

Think about that. In two years,we lose as many people

to gun deaths as we lostin the entire course

of the Vietnam War.Two years.

-Wow.-We lose that many people.

And we should havethis conversation,

and people really need to pushtheir elected representatives.

Well, I think with your voice,with Twitter,

with what's happening out there,people are getting behind it,

and, uh, pushingtheir representatives

-Yeah. -is the most important.But thank you for coming.

-Thank you, Trevor.-Really appreciate it.

Congressman Jim Himes, everyone.We'll be right back.

(cheering, applause)

So... from the chaos in Europe

we turnto the chaos in congress,

which, despite the nationalepidemic of gun violence,

has for yearsfailed to pass any laws

making it harderfor bad guys to get guns.

And yesterday, Democraticsenator, Chris Murphy,

of Connecticutdecided he'd had enough.

He staged a marathon speech,a filibuster.

We've got to show a signalto the American public

that we care...

that we care so deeply aboutthe consequences of inaction

that we are at the very leastgoing to stop this process

from moving forward untilwe can't stand any longer.

Yes. Yes.

-(applause, whooping)-Yes.


and he meant it.

Murphy and his colleaguesfilibustered for 15 hours.

15 hours of talking!

Or, as Dr. Ben Carson calls it,

-"ordering lunch."-(laughter)

(like Carson):Tell me again what...

size of...

-sodas you...-(laughter)


in this, uh...


And now for those of youwho don't know,

a filibuster is when a senatortalks for as long as he can

in order to prevent anythingelse from getting done.

It's basically liketantric legislating.

And, uh...You know what it is?

Have you ever watchedthat show Cops?

It's basically whenthey pull someone over

for stealing a car,and the perp in the car,

he filibusters,that's what he does.

The cop's like,"Did you steal this car?!"

And the guy's like, "Well,you see, what had happened,

"Officer, was, I was... I wasat my friend Darnell's house,

"and-and Darnell, well,you know how Darn...

"Let me tell youabout Darnell, man.

Darnell, he was saying thathe got a friend with a car..."

That's filibustering.That's-that's what it is.

NOAH: But this filibusteringwas riveting.

I mean, people were actuallywatching C-SPAN on purpose.

-(laughter) -Yeah, not justbecause they'd fallen down

and couldn't reach the remote.

And Murphy, he talkedand talked and talked,

and people on Twitterwere calling him a hero,

and he was.

But you knowwho the real hero was?

-That stenographer.-(laughter)

-Yeah.-(applause, whooping)

You think...

standing for 15 hours is hard?

Try doing it with a typewriterstrapped to your chest!

Can you imaginethat poor woman...

who no one warned,she's just standing there

and she's like,"Oh, really? Really? Oh, really?

"You couldn't warn methat this was coming? Really?

"Would have been niceto get a heads-up

"if you were planning to talkfor 15... Oh, no, no, no.

"I mean, some of us just havefamilies. Whatever. Whatever.

"Yeah, I'm standing,I'm in my uncomfortable heels.

"At the very leastyou could have warned me

"to put on my Chef Curry's,at the very least.

You could have told me, yeah,because they are fire."

So, what was allthis filibustering about?

Well, Chris Murphy saidhe would not stop

until senate Republicans agreedto allow a vote

on two popular Democraticgun control measures.

The first one would banterrorism suspects

from buying a gun.

And the secondwould close a loophole

that lets people buy weaponsfrom gun shows

or over the Internetwithout a background check.

And so once Murphygot his speech rolling,

his friends started lining upto keep it going.

He got helpfrom Elizabeth Warren,

who tagged in Bill Nelson,who tagged in Dick Durbin,

who tagged in John Cena,

-(laughter)-who tagged in Bobby Flay...

I'm... like, look,at this point,

I may have beenflipping channels,

-(laughter)-but that's not the point.

The point is, watchingthese people and their passion

was epic!

I want to start, um...

by thanking my friend,Chris Murphy.

I'm proud that he is forcing usto have this conversation.

After allof these mass shootings,

congress must do something,right?

They must respond.

Enough. Enough. Enough.

We can ban Rambo-styleassault weapons.

I have said if you need a AK-47,

AR-47 to hunt a deer,

you ought to stick to fishing.

Because that is notthe weapon of choice

of real sportsmen in my state.



Durbin with the burn.

Durbin's like, a real hunter

doesn't need an assault rifleto kill a deer.

Yeah, because you knowwhen Dick Durbin

goes into the woodsto kill a deer,

he doesn't reach for no AR-15.No-- too easy.

He goes in withnothing but a loincloth

and one of thoseplastic takeout spoons.


He scoops the deer to death.

And sometimes, sometimes,maybe the deer escapes,

but that's cool.Because later, at home,

when the deeris talking to his deer wife

saying, "Honey,we got to get out of here.

"There's a man...a madman running around

"with a plastic spoon.He's trying to kill me.

He's a maniac." And thenhis deer wife turns to him,

pulls the mask off--surprise, it's Dick Durbin.

Checkmate, (bleep).

(cheering, applause)


so, after 15 hours,

Democrats forcedsenate Republicans

to agree to finallybring these bills to the floor.

And you knowwhat that means, people--

they got the vote!

-Yes!-(cheering, applause)

They got the vote!

(imitates peppy marching band)

I-I apologizefor that shabby display.

Uh, we didn't actuallyhave a budget allocated

for the senate actuallyagreeing on something,

so, um, we didn't have timeto buy balloons.

Uh, so-so now... so now theRepublicans have agreed, right?

Uh, and let's find outthe specifics

of, uh, some of what they'llactually be voting only on.

REPORTER: The first would block those on terrorist watch lists

from buying a gun. The second would require background checks

for guns sold at gun shows and through online retailers.

Okay, okay. I...I understand this,

but I-I still find it weird

that you can buy a gunon the Internet.

I mean, I can't even watch pornwithout lying about my age.


So, you have two bills--

the first is designed to stopanyone on the terror watch list

from owning a gun.

Which sounds like it shouldn'teven be up for discussion.

I mean, like,who's sitting around going,

should we let terroristsget guns?

I'm gonna say n-no? Ye...

No, no, no.

Y... No, no, yeah, no.No. No. No.

It seems obvious.But the truth is

the terror watch listshould be up for discussion.

Because it's not as formalas it sounds.

The terror watch list--you realize it's a secret list

that anyone could beput on at any time.

The terror watch list is kind oflike the list girls controlled

in high school to determinewho was cool or not.

And I-I know a secret terrorlist that limits your rights

seems acceptable right now,

uh, because it's inthis guy's control.

But in five months--God forbid--

that list could bein the tiny, tiny hands

of bronze Stalin.

So you have to think about it.

Now, Democrats... Democratsaren't alone in proposing a law

to limit access to guns forpeople on the terror watch list.

The Republicanshave their own version.

Except it doesn't ban peopleon the list from getting a gun.

It gives the FBI 72 hoursto see if they can find a reason

to stop the gun sale.

But we've spoken to expertswho have told us that 72 hours

is just not enough timeto find probable cause.

So, both of these--

the terror watch list,uh, bills are...

they're really problematic,you know.

Both of these terror watch listbills are problematic.

In their own way.

But the other bill thatSenator Murphy won a vote on

is more promising, becauseit would close the loophole

that allows peopleto buy guns from gun shows

and over the Internetwithout a background check,

and the senate tried to getuniversal background checks

after Sandy Hook, but youremember Republicans blocked it.

And now, thanksto Murphy's filibuster

and his bulletproof bladder,

they'll have another chance.

And maybe this timethey'll do the right thing.

And the truth is,look, at the end of the day,

we all acknowledgeCongress has been blocked up

for a very, very long time

and maybe these billsaren't the greatest, you know?

In fact, one of those expertswe talked to used the phrase

"a piece of crap".

But, like anybody withconstipation will tell you,

sometimes passinga little (bleep)

is exactly what you need.