cOlbert's Book Club - Mariel Hemingway on Ernest Hemingway

January 21, 2014 - Michael Chabon & Mariel Hemingway 01/21/2014 Views: 10,009

"Running With Nature" author Mariel Hemingway discusses the "Hemingway curse" and describes her grandfather's often-overlooked romantic side. (5:55)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Stephen: OH, HI.

WELCOME BACK TO THE COLBERT BOOKCLUB, EVERYBODY.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Stephen: FOLKS, IF YOU ARE

JUST JOINING US AND WANT TOCATCH UP YOU NEED TO DRINK A

FIFTH OF WHISKEY AND MAKE LOVETO A BISON.

TONIGHT IS ALL ABOUT ERNESTHEMINGWAY.

HIS BOOKS HAVE TURNED INTO ATLEAST 15 FEATURE FILMS.

MY FAVORITE, ERNEST GOES TOCAMP.

HEMINGWAY WAS A BADASS.

EVEN ABOUT THE ACT OF WRITING.

SAYING THERE IS NOTHING TOWRITING. ALL DO YOU IS SIT DOWN

AT THE TYPEWRITER AND BLEED.

ASO POIGNANT. IT CALLS TO MINDTHE WORDS OF HEMINGWAY'S

CLEANING LADY, "DEARGOD, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED

IN HERE."

HERE TO TELL US MORE ABOUTHEMINGWAY THE MAN, IS HEMINGWAY

THE WOMAN. PLEASE WELCOMEMARIEL HEMINGWAY. THANK YOU

FOR JOINING US.

-- MARIEL.

WOULD YOU LIKE A GLASS OF WINE?

>>>> Don:

Stephen: YOU DON'T WANT AGLASS OF WINE.

ALRIGHT.

THAT IS THE FIRST SUBJECT.

YOU HAVE A BOOK CALLED "RUNNINGWITH NATURE" YOU WROTE WITH YOUR

PARTNER BOBBIE WILLIAMS.

>> YES.

Stephen: PHOTO, FULL FRAME.

I'M OFFENDED BY HOW HEALTHY ANDHAPPY YOU LOOK IN THE PHOTO.

>> YOU ARE?

Stephen: YOU HAVE A HEALTHYLIFESTYLE.

>> I DO.

Stephen: DO YOU THINK YOURHARD LIVING GRANDFATHER WOULD

AGREE OF A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE OFMICRO BIOTICS AND TEA AND NOT

WINE AND WHISKEY.

>> I THINK HE WOULD HE LIVED INA TIME WHERE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE

DRINKING TOO MUCH, LIKE YOU HAVEBEEN DOING ALL EVENING, AND

LIVING THE HARD LIFE IS NOT GOODFOR YOU.

HE WAS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THECHARACTERS HE WAS WRITING ABOUT.

THINK IF HE WAS MORE STABLE ITWOULD OF BEEN BETTER FOR HIM.

>> Stephen: YOU HAVE DONE ADOCUMENTARY ABOUT WHAT SOME MAY

CALL ESCAPING THE HEMINGWAYCURSE.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ACURSE.

THERE IS THE MYTH.

THERE IS A MISCONCEPTIONOF HOW HEMINGWAY IS SUPPOSED

TO BE.

YOUR DRESS AND YOUR BEHAVIOR.

A MAN'S MAN.

>> Stephen: I DIDN'T NAIL IT?

>> YOU NAILED IT, YOU GOT ITRIGHT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU, VERYMUCH.

>> THE IDEA IT'S ABOUT BEING A,YOU KNOW A MAN THAT IS GOING TO

KILL EVERYTHING.

I THINK HE UNDERSTOOD LOVESTORIES.

I THINK HE UNDERSTOOD THECOMMUNICATION BETWEEN MEN AND

WOMEN IN A RELATIONSHIP.

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A STORY ABOUTWAR.

I REALLY FEEL HIS UNDERSTANDINGOF WOMEN AND THE SUBTLETIES OF

LIFE.

NOT JUST THE MACHISMO, BIGTHINGS.

>> Stephen: THERE IS ROMANCE INTHE STORIES.

WE MEN REALIZE FROM READINGHEMINGWAY TO GET THE GIRL WE MAY

HAVE TO BE DISTANT AND HARDLIVING AND HARD DRINKING.

THAT'S THE ORIGINAL MARLBORO MANFOR AMERICA, HEMINGWAY.

>> MAKING MEN, MEN IS A GREATTHING.

IT'S WHAT WE TAKE FROM HIM.

>> Stephen: THE LADIES LIKE IT.

>> THE LADIES LIKE IT.

I ADMIT THAT.

>> Stephen: TO IMPRESS THELADIES THOSE OF US WHO ARE FANS

FEEL WE HAVE TO GO TO THE FROZENFISH ISLE AND WRESTLE THE GORDON

FISH STICKS AND PUNCH THEMBEFORE PUTTING THEM IN THE

MICROWAVE.

DID YOU HAVE TO READ HIS BOOKSIN HIGH SCHOOL?

WERE YOU ASSIGNED ERNESTHEMINGWAY IN HIGH SCHOOL?

>> I WAS LIKE EVERY OTHER KID.

I READ "OLD MAN IN THE SEA."

DID MY SIXTH GRADE BOOK REPORT.

>> Stephen: DID YOU GET A GOODGRADE?

>>>> Don: JUST KIDDING.

I READ IT WITH MY FATHER INPARIS WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD.

I READ IT BEFORE I WENT TOPARIS.

THEN I READ WHILE I WAS IN PARISAND ANOTHER BOOK ABOUT MY

GRANDFATHER GOING THROUGH PARISWHEN HE WAS MARRIED TO MY GRAND

MOTHER AND HAD MY FATHER WHO ISMENTIONED IN THE BOOK.

>> Stephen: IS THAT LIKE READINGA FAMILY DIARY OR A BOOK?

>> NO, IT FEELS LIKE A BOOK.

I WASN'T ALIVE WHEN HE WASALIVE.

IT -- THERE WAS DEFINITELYSOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT WAS

SPECIAL.

>> Tom: HAVE YOUR FATHER TELLYOU STORIES ABOUT THE DIFFERENT

PLACES THAT HE ACTUALLY GREW UPIN.

IT'S PRETTY POWERFUL WAY TO HEARABOUT IT.

>> Stephen: FOR SUCH A GREATAMERICAN WRITER, SOME SAY THE

GREATEST AMERICAN WRITER OFF THE20th CENTURY.

WHY DID HE WRITE SO MUCH ABOUTOTHER COUNTRIES?

ISN'T THERE SOMETHING IN AMERICATO INSPIRE HIM? HE DOESN'T

NEED PARIS, WE HAVE EPCOT.

DOES THAT OFFEND YOU?

>> YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND YOUKNOW HOW HIS MOTHER DRESSED HIM

FOR SO LONG.

HE WANTED TO GET THE HELL OUT OFDODGE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THATWAS ABOUT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T KNOW MY GREATGRANDMOTHER.

THAT BEGS AN ANSWER.

>> Stephen: YOUR GRANDFATHERSPENT A LOT OF TIME IN CUBA. HIS

BOAT IS THERE, THE PILAR. ANDTHE HOUSE IS THERE.

WHEN FIDEL CASTRO DIES YOU'REOPENING A HOTEL, RIGHT?

YOU HAVE TO, YOU CAN CASH.

IN "I GOT HAMMERED ATHEMINGWAYS" YOU HAVE TO OPEN A

HOTEL.

MARIEL, THANK YOU FOR JOININGME.

MARIEL HEMINGWAY "RUNNING WITHNATURE" WE WILL BE RIGHT