John McCain

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Senator John McCain weighs in on U.S. military intervention in Syria and discusses his book "Thirteen Soldiers." (6:58)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY, MY GUEST TONIGHT

NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION.

SO I WON'T.

SENATOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SENATOR JOHN McCAIN, WHAT APLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON AT LAST

THANKS FOR COMING HERE FORONE OF MY LAST 12 SHOWS, IT'S

AN HONOR.

>> YOU'RE SCRAPING THE BOTTOMOF THE BARREL, HUH?

>> Stephen: NO, WE HAVESAVED THE BEST FOR LAST, TO

PARAPHRASE THE GOSPEL.

NOW YOU ARE A FIVETIME-- U.S. SENATOR.

>> WHAT CHAPTER IN THE BIBLEIS THAT?

>> Stephen: SAVE THE BESTFOR LAST.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: AS THE MARRIAGEAT CANAA WHEN HE TURNS THE

WATER INTO WINE, THE WINETHAT HE MAKES OUT OF THE

WATER IS PASSED AROUND TOTHE GUESTS AND THEY SAY

THOU HAST SAVED THEBEST FOR LAST.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO APPEALTO CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES

IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOURGOSPEL, SIR?

>> NOW I REMEMBER, THANK YOU FOR

REFRESHING MY MEMORY.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, FATHER McCAIN.

NOW HOW WAS YOURTHANKSGIVING.

I KNOW YOU ARE A BIGGRILLER, DID YOU GRILL YOUR

OWN TURKEY.

>> NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUTFOUR FRIED TURKEYS AND

DIDN'T SET THE DECK ONFIRE ONCE.

>> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONS.

>> DEEP-FRY YOUR TURKEYS, MYFRIENDS, YOU WILL NEVER GO

BACK TO ANYTHING ELSE IT ISKIND OF ADDICTIVE, A LITTLE

BIT LIKE SOME SUBSTANCESTHAT YOU USED TO USE.

>> Stephen: WE AGREEDBACKSTAGE WE WOULDN'T TALK

ABOUT MY CRACK HABIT.

>> THERE WE GO.

>> Stephen: NOW SIR, YOUHAVE A NEW BOOK CALLED 13

SOLDIERS, A PERSONAL HISTORYOF AMERICANS AT WAR.

>> YUP.

>> Stephen: WHY 13, THATSEEMS LIKE AN UNLUCKY

NUMBER.

>> ONE FOR EVERY MAJORCONFLICT WE HAVE BEEN

INVOLVED IN SINCE THEREVOLUTIONARY WAR, AND THE

DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, MENAND WOMEN.

WE TOOK ONE INDIVIDUAL FOREACH CONFLICT AND TRIED TO

PUT THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF THECONFLICT.

BUT ALSO DESCRIBED TO THEREADER EXACTLY WHAT THEY

WENT THROUGH, AND THEDIFFICULTIES AND CHALLENGES

OF DEFENDING YOUR COUNTRY.

THIS ONE, OUR FRIEND JOINEDAT AGE 15, THE REVOLUTIONARY

WAR, CHARLES MARTIN.

ALMOST STARVED TO DEATH.

FOUGHT IN SEVERAL BATTLESAND FINALLY WE WON,

OBVIOUSLY.

AND IT TOOK 30 YEARS.

>> Stephen: 15.

>> JOINED AT 15.

AND FOUGHT ALL THE WAYTHROUGH.

>> Stephen: AT 15 I WASSTILL WATCHING STAR WARS.

AT 50 I'M STILL WATCHINGSTAR WARS.

NOW I NEVER SERVED BECAUSEMY DOCTOR SAYS I HAVE AN

INCURABLE CONDITION CALLED IDIDN'T WANT TO.

BUT I HAVE HEARD FROM WHAT IHAVE READ AND WHAT I HAVE

HEARD FROM PEOPLE LIKEYOURSELF WHO DID SERVE IN

OUR WARS, THAT WAR ISHORRIBLE.

SHOULD BOOKS ABOUT WAR, IFTHEY'RE GOOD, ALSO BE IN

SOME WAYS HORRIBLE?

OR HORRIFYING.

>> AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTANDTHAT WAR IS TERRIBLE, IT'S

THE WORST OF ALL THINGS.

IT DESTROYS LIVES.

>> Stephen: DO YOU COVER ANYOF OUR PRESENT WARS IN THIS?

FOR INSTANCE BILL O'REILLYAND THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS?

>> THERE IS ONLY ONE HERO TOWRITE ABOUT THAT, AND THAT

IS BILL O'REILLY.

>> THE YOUNG WOMAN IN THERETHAT FOUGHT IN AFGHANISTAN,

SHE IS A MEDIC.

SHE-- MONICA THOMAS.

SHE WAS IN A CONVOY, HIT BYAN IED.

SHE RUSHED IN TO SAVE THELIVES AND SHE DID OF SEVERAL

OTHER OF HER COMRADES.

AND BY THE WAY, HER HEROISM ANDTHAT OF WOMEN LIKE HER

SHOULD PUT TO REST ANYDISCUSSION OR ARGUMENT

WHETHER WOMEN SHOULD SERVEIN COMBAT OR NOT.

>> WELL, LET'S TALKABOUT-- LET'S TALK

ABOUT-- LET'S TALK ABOUTWHAT IS GOING ON IN THE

MIDDLE EAST AND AFGHANISTAN.

>> YEP.

>> Stephen: YOU HAVE SAID WEWILL HAVE BOOTS ON THE

GROUND IN SYRIA BY THE ENDOF THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR?

>> I THINK IT DEPENDS ON HOWTHE PRESIDENT FEELS HIS

FORCE TO DO THAT, HECONTINUES TO TELL US WHAT WE

WANT AND END UP DOING IT, WENOW HAVE 1500 MORE AS YOU KNOW

RECENTLY.

AND NOW THESE PEOPLE AREN'TGOING AWAY.

>> Stephen: SHOULD WE HAVETROOPS.

>> WE SHOULD HAVE BOOTS ONTHE GROUND.

>> WE SHOULD HAVE MORE AIRCONTROLLERS, WE SHOULD HAVE

SPECIAL FORCES AND WE SHOULDHAVE INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE

BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY BEEFFECTIVE WITH THAT.

I DONE MEAN SENDING IN THE82nd AIRBORNE AND THOUSANDS

AND THOUSANDS.

>> Stephen: BUT WHY NOT SENDIN THE 82 AIRBORNE AND

THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS IF ITIS A BIG PROBLEM IF WE HAVE

TO DEAL WITH THESE GUYS, WHYPUSSY FOOT AROUND, WHY NOT

TROOP BOOT IT AROUND?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THEAMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD NOT

ACCEPT SUCH A THING.

>> Stephen: ISN'T LEADERSHIPABOUT SAYING NO, WE HAVE TO

DO THIS THING.

>> WE CAN GET THE JOB DONE.

>> Stephen: PEOPLE DIDN'TWANT THE SURGE WHEN THE

SURGE HAPPENED.

BUT AS YOU WOULD SAY, THESURGE WORKED.

ISN'T THIS A SURGE IN TOSYRIA?

>> IT IS.

BUT IT'S GOT TO IT BE DONEIN A WAY THAT WOULD BE MORE

EFFECTIVE THAN SENDING IN AWHOLE BUNCH OF TROOPS.

NOT SENDING IN THE LARGENUMBERS THAT WE DID IN IRAQ

AND AFGHANISTAN.

>> DIDN'T WE UNDERESTIMATEWHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IN

IRAQ AND THAT'S WHY THE WARTOOK SO LONG?

>> WE HAD A FLAWED POLICY.

BY THE WAY, I WAS AGAINST IT,SAID RUMSFELD OUGHT TO BE

FIRED.

GUYS LIKE YOU, YOU CALL METHE BRAVE MAVERICK.

NOW WHEN I SAID THAT OBAMAIS MISHANDLING IT, NOW HE IS

THE ANGRY OLD MAN.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE I AMNOW.

>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUTYOU AND THE ANGRY OLD MAN

OF CHUCK HAGEL WHO JUST GOTTOSSED OUT THE DOOR BY

OBAMA.

YOU VOTED AGAINST HAGEL'SCONFIRMATION AS DID I, AT

HOME, YELLING AT THE SCREEN.

ARE YOU GLAD HE'S OUT?

>> I THINK THAT CHUCK AND BYTHE WAY HE IS A FRIEND AND

HE'S A DISTINGUISHEDAMERICAN.

HE FOUGHT AS AN ENLISTED MANDURING THE VIETNAM WAR AND I

HONOR THAT.

BUT HE WASN'T THE RIGHT GUYFOR THE JOB.

AND IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THATALL THE DECISIONS ARE BEING

MADE WITHIN A SMALL GROUP INTHE WHITE HOUSE.

>> SO WE NEED SOMEBODY WHOHAS GOT EXPERIENCE.

YOU'RE HERE FOR THE COLBERTBUMP.

IS THIS A TRIAL BALLOON TOBE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE?

>> ACTUALLY I WAS THINKING,ACTUALLY I WAS THINKING

ABOUT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENTAGAIN, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

YOU WOULD HAVE THE FULLRESOURCES OF THE COLBERT

REPORT AT YOUR BACK IN 2016.

IF IT WERE STILL ON THE AIR.

SENATOR, THANK YOU SO MUCHFOR JOINING ME.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> SENATOR JOHN McCAIN, 13

SOLDIERS.

GO GET IT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.