Chris Hayes - March Madness Meets Presidential Debates

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Chris Hayes, host of MSNBC's "All In with Chris Hayes," examines the Republican field of presidential candidates and weighs in on a more useful structure for primary debates. (5:34)

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PLEASE WELCOME CHRIS HAYES.

(APPLAUSE)

IT'S CHRIS HAYES.

>> HEY THERE.

>> Trevor: HOW ARE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING, MAN.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE TOTALK ABOUT THE DEBATE.

DO THESE THINGS STILL MATTER?

ARE WE JUST HAVING FUN NOW?

>> YOU KNOW, THAT IS A REAL-- IMEAN THE BIG QUESTION OF THIS

CAMPAIGN SO FAR I THINK ISBASICALLY DOES ALL OF THE

CRAZINESS WE'VE SEEN IN THE LASTFEW MONTHS, WILL IT MATTER IN

THE END.

AND THERE IS A DEBATE BETWEENPEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THIS WILL

BE LIKE THE PAST AND SETELEVATOR DOWN AND GO FOR THE

PERSON THEY THINK IS MOSTELECTABLE OR WHETHER SOMETHING

IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT ABOUTTHE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND SOMEONE

LIKE DONALD TRUMP OR BEN CARSONCOULD BE THE NOMINEE.

>> Trevor: BUT PEOPLE HAVEN'TSETTLED DOWN.

DON'T WORRY, TREVOR, IT'S SUMMERMADNESS.

IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

HA, HA, HA, HA.

AND NOW GUYS ARE LIKE HE'S STILLIN THE LEAD?

HA, HA, HA.

LIKE IT'S NOT CHANGING.

>> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND SO THAT, I THINK, IS ANARGUMENT FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING

NOW.

THE OTHER THING THAT MATTERSNOW, YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN,

WHATEVER ENDS UP HAPPENING, THISPERIOD OF TIME HAS ALREADY

KNOCKED OUT TWO PEOPLE.

SCOTT WALKER AND GOVERNOR RICKPERRY WHO WOULD IN ANOTHER

COUNTER FACTUAL UNIVERSE BEPLAUSABLE NOMINEES IN THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY--

YOU DON'T THINK SO.

>> Trevor: NO, NO, I WAS JUSTPICTURING THIS UNIVERSE.

I WAS PICTURING ALL THE THINGSHAPPENING IN THE UNIVERSE WHERE

THEY WERE THE MOST-- THAT SAYSTRANGE THING TO THINK ABOUT.

OKAY.

SO I WATCHED THE DEBATES.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND-- DOES THETERM DEBATE, IS IT BEING USED

LOOSELY NOW?

BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOLONGER A DEBATE NOW, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST A--

>> PART OF THAT IS LIKE SAYINGI'M GOING TO GO PLAY TENNIS WITH

EIGHT PEOPLE.

I MEAN, THERE IS A CERTAIN--

>> Trevor: THAT SOUNDS LIKE AGREAT GAME.

>> EXACTLY.

BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY MESSY.

THE POINT OF A DEBATE, DEBATESARE SET UP WITH A PRO AND A CON.

A REVOLVE OR WE THINK ABOUTLINCOLN-DOUGLAS.

THERE WAS JUST ONE LINCOLN ANDONE DOUGLAS AND THEY TALKED TO

EACH OTHER.

IT'S REALLY UNCLEAR HOW YOUACTUALLY ENGINEER A DEBATE WITH

TEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE THATREMOTELY IS HE RESEMMABLES AN

ACTUAL DEBATE.

>> Trevor: WHY DON'T THEY HAVEA KNOCKOUT.

>> THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THEOTHER DAY, THIS SHOULD BE A

SERIES OF ONE-ON-ONE--

>> Trevor: AND YOU KNOCK EACHOTHER OUT, THAT WOULD BE

ENTERTAINING.

>> THAT SHOULD BE BETTER.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE LIKE MARCHMADNESS WITH BRACKETS.

AND THEN WE GO, AND YOU DOONE-ON-ONE.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Trevor: I LIKE YOUR STYLE.

>> AND DO IT QUICK.

SO IT'S KASICH, RAND PAUL,ONE-ON-ONE.

>> Trevor: AND YOU GO ANDKNOCK EACH OTHER OUT.

I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM NOW,IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE SO MANY

CANDIDATES THAT IT'S JUST NOISENOW.

THERE IS NOBODY TALKING WHEREASON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE, IT SEEMS

LIKE IT IS PRETTY SMOOTHSAILING.

>> BECAUSE THERE IS MORE TIME IREALLY DO THINK THAT IS A BIG

PART OF IT.

I ALSO THINK AT THE RISK OFBIAS, I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE

MORE--

>> Trevor: WHICH ARE YOU AREBY THE WAY AS LIBERAL MEDIA.

>> I AM, I WEAR IT PROUDLY.

>> Trevor: I THOUGHT I SHOULDCALL OUT ON THAT.

>> I WEAR IT PROUDLY.

I DO THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BITMORE DESIRE FOR POLICY SUBSTANCE

AMONGST THE PEOPLE PAYINGATTENTION AT THIS POINT IN THE

PRIMARY IN THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD,IF I CAN SAY THAT.

>> Trevor: YOU CAN.

YOU HAVE SAID IT, YOU SAID IT.

YOU HAVE SAID IT.

THE ACCUSATIONS THAT THEMAINSTREAM MEDIA IS PRODEMOCRAT,

ANTI-REPUBLICAN IS ONE THAT ISBEING, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THROWN

OUT BY THE G.O.P.

RIGHT NOW.

YOU ARE PART OF THAT MACHINE.

YOU ARE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

IS THAT HOW IT WORKS?

IS THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DEMOCRATALL THE TIME AND ARE THEY

ANTI-REPUBLICAN.

HOW DOES THAT--

>> I WOULD SAY, I'M SORT OFOUT-- I'M PART OF THE MAINSTREAM

MEDIA, BUT MY VIEW POINT ISPRETTY CLEAR.

I THINK WHAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKEIS WHEN THEY FEEL THEIR BIASES

AT WORK THAT ARE UNANNOUNCED.

I THINK THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISBIASED BUT NOT IN ANY PARTISAN

WAY.

I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN BIASESWE HAVE.

WE HAVE BIAS TOWARDS SPECTACLE.

WE HAVE BIAS TOWARD SOMEONE JUSTBLEW SOMETHING UP.

LET'S GO COVER THAT.

100,000 PEOPLE MARCHED FORSOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS GOODTELEVISION, RIGHT?

SO THERE IS ALL KIND OF BIASESTHAT END UP HAVING DIFFERENT

EXPRESSIONS ALONG THE POLITICALSPECTRUM BUT MOSTLY THEY'RE

BIASES OF THE FORM OFTELEVISION.

>> Trevor: SO IF YOU WERE TOSAY-- THE NEXT DEBATE IS COMING

UP.

WITHOUT BIAS IN YOUR HEARTS, WHODO THINK IS GOING TO BE KNOCKED

OUT NEXT?

WHO DO YOU THINK SHOULD BEKNOCKED OUT NEXT?

>> WHO DISOI THINK SHOULD BEKNOCKED OUT.

>> Trevor: LOOK, JUST TO STREAMLINE EVERYTHING.

>> SHOULD?

>> Trevor: YES.

>> I MEAN LOOK.

>> Trevor: KICK THEM OFF THEBACK OF THE BUS.

KICK THEM OFF.

METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, OFCOURSE.

>> HERE IS WHAT I WOULD SAY.

THE UNITED STATES HAS NEVER,WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO

GENERALS, HAS NEVER GRANT ANDEISENHOWER, AS FAR AS I CAN

TELL, I THINK, HAS NEVER ELECTEDANYONE WITH AS LITTLE POLITICAL

EXPERIENCE AS DONALD TRUMP ANDBEN CARSON CURRENTLY HAVE AND I

THINK THERE IS A REASON FORTHAT.

I MEAN--

(APPLAUSE)

YOU KNOW, LOOK, BEN CARSON IS AMANIFESTLY ACCOMPLISHED, SMART

GUY, RIGHT?

>> Trevor: YES.

>> BUT IN THE SAME WAY I THINKBERNIE SANDERS IS A SMART GUY.

I DON'T WANT HIM TO OPERATE ONMY BRAIN TOMORROW.

>> Trevor: THAT DIDN'T SOUNDBIASED AT ALL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

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