Panel - What's Driving the Hillary Clinton Haters?

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Jena Friedman, Mike Yard and Robin Thede examine the potential role that sexism plays in claims that Hillary Clinton is inauthentic and untrustworthy. (6:54)

Welcome back.I'm here with my panel.

First up, Nightly Show contributor Mike Yard.

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And Nightly Show contributorRobin Thede.

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And very funny comedianJena Friedman.

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Okay, so last night, um,I was watching the, uh,

top secret Democratic debate

cleverly disguisedas a Democratic town hall.

And a, uh... It was on CNN.

And this was amazing to me.A kid stood up

and asked Hillary a question

that even she seemed to betaken aback by. Take a look.

It feels like there's a lotof young people like myself,

um, who are very passionatesupporters of Bernie Sanders.

And I just don't seethe same enthusiasm, um,

from younger people for you.

Um, in fact, I've heard fromquite a few, uh, people my age

that they thinkyou're dishonest.

(audience groaningand gasping)

That's messed up, man.

But it seems like

Hillary is always beingquestioned on her reputation.

First of all,is this a fair take on Hillary?

-The dishonesty?-Well, I'm just...

-Can I just say something?-Yeah.

This is... It's...My honest take about Hillary,

politics aside, you can disagreewith things she's done...

-WILMORE: Right.-... uh, politically.

But we haveto stop hating women.

-(applause and cheering)-Like, as a culture,

-I feel like there's... -Youthink this is about women hate?

-I agree with that.-Yes, because other politicians

-don't have this kind ofrhetoric about them... -Right.

...and these things that havenothing to do with the campaign.

-WILMORE: Narratives, uh-huh.-Really.

-(cheers and applause)-I'm tired of it.

That's a fair takeon any politician.

Are you tryingto tell me that...?

-I mean, I loveBernie Sanders... -THEDE: Right.

...but is he really more honestthan Hillary?

Is any of 'em more honest?

You really think Bernie'sgonna get free college

for every kid?You really believe that?

Do you think Donald Trumpis gonna build a wall

and have Mexico pay for it?That's not happening.

They all lie. People don't wantto hear the truth.

They want you to tell them the(bleep) that they want to hear.

-WILMORE: Yeah, but... but...-FRIEDMAN: And...

Go ahead, -FRIEDMAN: Well,nothing about...

I mean, who said that anything

about politics had to dowith fairness?

And, like, I think Hillary justbeing in the public eye...

-WILMORE: Mm-hmm.,knows this more than anyone.

You know, like, last time shewas president, she had to...

(laughter) with everyonecalling her "Bill."

-WILMORE: I don't remember that.Yeah. -You know, so...

THEDE: That was tough for her.That was tough.

Well, do you...?

How much does Bill have to do

with this whole narrativeof her being untrustworthy?

Seven percent. I don't know.

-WILMORE: No, but it...-THEDE: I think a lot...

YARD: I don't think he hasanything to do with it.

It sounds likeshe's paying for the sins

-of his administration.-THEDE: Absolutely.

-Back in the '90s... -Or thefact that she stood next to him?

And people are still madat her for that?

Yes, the fact that she stood...

I think they areabsolutely still mad about that.

I think peopleare still resentful.

In the 90's,it was cool to blame the woman

-when the husband cheated.-WILMORE: Uh-huh.

And nowit's the total opposite.

We feel really sympatheticfor women who get cheated on,

but she still hasthat residual resentment.

It's like the partneryou broke up with,

like, four or five times.Like, you... -Uh-huh.

There's a lot of love, butthere's a lot of resentment

over the time they didn'ttake out the garbage in '94.

-WILMORE: Uh-huh. -YARD: Yeah.I don't know, though,

-that it has anything to do withBill, man, 'cause... -Mm-hmm.

...I don't think people lovedHillary before Bill cheated.

THEDE: They did!She was a darling!

FRIEDMAN:Oh, no, they love her. I love...

Listen, I never heardthat kind of love

for Hillary before Bill cheated.

-I never heard that.-Really?

-No. -She had that little cutebob haircut.

-FRIEDMAN: I'm always... -Ithink people just don't like...

Hillary is a strong womanwho's unapologetic

for being strong,and it scares people.

-WILMORE: Yeah?-That's what I think it is.

-That's true. -Look, I... Yeah.-Go ahead, Jena. -(applause)

I was just going to say, I loveher, I always have loved her.

I love herlike I love Lady Macbeth.

I just... I feel like...

YARD: How much do you loveLady Macbeth, though?

-You kind of have her firsthairstyle, Jena. -THEDE: Yes!

-YARD: That it? -That's onpurpose. No. I just, you know...

And we all have skeletonsin our e-mails.

-You know, it's not like...-WILMORE: Right.

I just thinkwe do give her a hard time.

I don't know if it's 'causeshe's a woman, or you know.

Well, there has been...

To me, I'm a little suspicious.

Let's just saya little suspicious.

Because I agree with you.

I think all politiciansare untrustworthy, you know.

But this whole drip, drip, dripwith the e-mail thing

seems a little biton purpose to me, you know?

-YARD: Of course.-And it's one of those things.

But it's this themewe're putting out there.

Once it gets out there that

you can't trust her, you can'ttrust her, you can't trust her,

she's a liar, she's a liar--how do you put

-that genie back in the bottle?-THEDE: Right.

I mean, when I look at that kid,he doesn't remember the '90s.

-THEDE: No. -You know,he's just hearing all this

Benghazi (bleep)and all this stuff.

And he's saying, "I don't knowif I can trust her."

-Well, you...-Mm.

Yeah, it's hardto put it back in the bottle.

-Yeah. -It's hard, man.Let me tell you something.

I never had sexwith Lazy-Eye Alice, but once...

Once the hood startedtalking about it...

-(laughter)-Yeah, it's true, because

-I still believe it.-I didn't, though.

-THEDE: Yeah.-YARD: But I never did.

Well, but there's that muralof you guys on the wall.

There's no... Somebody drewthat. I never had sex with her.

Yeah, they drew it,and it's still there.

I don't even really knowLazy-Eye Alice.

I have no (bleep).I don't know her.


Can't put that (bleep)back in the bottle.

-Yeah.-Everybody think I did it.

It's hard to put things back in.

Trump is like the master atjust putting things out there.

I mean, he tried itwith Obama.

We talked about that earlierwith the birthing.

-Now he's doing it with Cruz.-THEDE: Right.

And people seem to, like,just buy it.

I mean, Malcolm Gladwell talkedabout the stickiness factor,

he was talking about.

Why are lies so sticky? Why dothey have so much stickiness?

People just want to believe it.

I think that's a...I mean, sticky is a weird word.

(laughs)Just in general.


WILMORE: Hey, let me go to whereJena is thinking right now.

-THEDE: No, I know what youmean. Like, moist. Yeah. -Yeah.

People just wantto believe that stuff,

rather than the obvious truth,right.

Yeah, I think people wantto believe things...

Yeah. You know, and Trump's demoisn't really like that tuned in

-to reality, so, like...-WILMORE: Yeah.

THEDE: No, they're onlytuned in to reality shows.

-That's the problem.-Yeah, reality shows.

Yeah, but I thinkthe biggest part about...

-Like, people love the juice,right? -WILMORE: Yeah, they do.

You love to hear the juice.Like the Lazy-Eye Alice story.

Like, I'm nevergonna forget that, but...

You know, like, I...

People love to stick with that,and then when you hear

what's really real,you don't want to let it go.

-Right.-For instance, think about it.

Michael Jackson.Everybody thinks

-he bleached his skin, right?-WILMORE: Uh-huh.

Well, after he passed,

it was shown medicallythat he had vitiligo.

Like, he had a skin diseasethat made his skin that color.

-WILMORE: Right. Right.-And everybody still thinks,

"Nah, he bleached it.He wanted to be white."

-Yeah. -And it's, like,no one can let that go.

-I don't know.-The truth is boring, man.

It's not that funny,but the truth hurts, people.

-Yeah. -(laughter) -The truth isboring. -Maybe that's it.

I thought you were gonna bringup the thing about the kids.

-THEDE: Uh-oh.-I don't know.

Well, you wouldn'thave been wrong,

but I cut that fromwhat I was.... Yeah, well.

I mean just saying, you know,he built an amusement park.

A true Michael Jackson fanwill never bring that up.

-It's like a... -You know,everybody's not perfect, Larry.

It's like a child-molestingroach motel.

-Oh.-I mean, seriously.

-But he's gone, Larry.-But with amazing rides.

Remember Thriller?

That's what people bring up whenthey want to defend Michael.

-Remember Thriller, though?-WILMORE: Yes, exactly.


That's (bleep) so wrong.

-Leave Michael alone!-Yeah, leave him alone.

Okay. We'll be right back,all right?


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