[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, HE'S THE HOSTOF "THE O'REILLY FACTOR"

ON THE FOX NEWS PROGRAM CHANNEL.HIS NEW BOOK IS CALLED

"KILLING PATTON, THE STRANGEDEATH OF WORLD WAR II'S MOST

AUDACIOUS GENERAL."

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO OURPROGRAM MR. WILLIAM O'REILLY.

WILLIAM! HELLO, WILLIAM. NICE TOSEE YOU, SIR.

[APPLAUSE]HAVE A SEAT.

I'M GLAD GIVEN THE EBOLA SCAREYOU STILL ARE SHAKING MY HAND.

I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE STEP.

I KNOW YOU'RE VERY FRIGHTENEDAND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU

EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OKAY.

THERE YOU GO, BABY.

[LAUGHTER]GET THAT GOING.

SETTLE DOWN.

THE BOOK IS CALLED BILL O'REILLY"KILLING PATTON."

IT'S LIKE WHAT LIKE THEEIGHTH,

WE'RE JUST GOING CALLTHIS KILLING TREES.

THEY SELL LIKE CRAZY, SOME OFTHEM.

[LAUGHTER]

>> YOU DIDN'T READ IT, THOUGHHUH?

>> Jon: NO, I DID NOT READIT. LISTEN TO ME.

>> YEAH.>> Jon: HERE'S ALL I WANT

FROM YOU TODAY.>> UH HUH.

>> Jon: THIS IS IT.>> YEP.

>> Jon: THIS IS ALL WE'VE GOT TODO IN THIS CONVERSATION.

>> OKAY.

>> Jon: JUST ONE, I HAVE ONESIMPLE GOAL.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: I WANT YOU TO ADMIT THATTHERE IS SUCH A THING AS WHITE

PRIVILEGE, THAT'S ALL I WANT.

>> I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAYTHAT.

>> Jon: THAT'S ALL I WANT.THAT'S IT. JUST A LITTLE,

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] I JUST WANT YOU TO SAY I AM,

I'M TERRIBLY TERRIBLY WRONG ONTHIS.

>> Jon: OKAY, LOOK, IFTHERE'S WHITE PRIVILEGE THEN

THERE HAS TO BE ASIAN PRIVILEGE.>> Jon: WHAT?

>> BECAUSE ASIANS MAKE MOREMONEY THAN WHITES.

>> Jon: WHAT?

>> OH YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANY OFTHIS HUH?

>> Jon: WELL NOT, NOT, WHAT KINDOF ASIAN? YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY.

>> ASIAN AMERICANS. ASIANAMERICANS.

>> WELL NO, BUT, IT DEPENDSWHERE THEY'RE FROM.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT --

>> THEY'RE FROM ASIA.

THEY'RE ASIAN AMERICANS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AS A--

>> GOOD. THEY MAKE MORE MONEY,HIGHER EDUCATION, MORE AFFLUENT.

SO IT'S ASIAN PRIVILEGE, NOTWHITE PRIVILEGE.

>> Jon: YOU'RE MISSING THEPOINT.

>> OH. SORRY TO CONFUSE YOU WITHFACTS.

>> Jon: YOU'RE NOT, IT'S NOT,THAT'S, OKAY.

HERE WE GO.>> YEAH.

>> Jon: THE ASIAN EXPERIENCE INAMERICA, THE ASIAN IMMIGRANT

EXPERIENCE...>> YES.

>> Jon: IS VERY DIFFERENTFROM THE BLACK EXPERIENCE.

>> YES.

>> Jon: SO IT'S REALLY, THEY'RENOT EQUIVALENT.

AND EITHER WAY, WHITE PEOPLE,MALES SET THE SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT PRIVILEGE IS, ISTHAT WHITE PEOPLE SET THE SYSTEM

THAT YES MAYBE ASIAN IMMIGRANTSONCE IMMIGRATION POLICY WAS

LIBERALIZED HAVE DONE BETTEROVER THESE PAST 30 OR 40 YEARS.

BUT THERE HAS BEEN A SYSTEMIC,SYSTEMIC SYSTEMATIZED

SUBJUGATION OF THEBLACK COMMUNITY.

WOULD YOU NOT AGREE WITH THAT?

>> SURE.

THAT WAS THEN.

THIS IS NOW.

>> OH IT'S, THERE WAS WHITEPRIVILEGE BUT

IT NO LONGER EXISTS.

>> WAIT, WAIT, MAYBE YOUHAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THERE IS NO

MORE SLAVERY, NO MORE JIMCROW, ALL RIGHT.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

>> AND THE MOST POWERFUL MAN INTHE WORLD.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT. OH BOY, HEREWE GO.

>> IS A BLACK AMERICAN.>> Jon: OH BOY.

>> AND THE MOST POWERFUL WOMANIN THE WORLD, OPRAH WINFREY IS

BLACK, OKAY.

>> Jon: BEING ABLE TO GIVEPEOPLE A FREE CAR DOES NOT MAKE

YOU THE MOST POWERFUL WOMANIN THE WORLD.

BUT LISTEN, BUT LISTEN CLOSE --BECAUSE I SEE --

>> DON'T MESS WITH OPRAH.

>> Jon: I SEE THE ISSUE HERE.YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT

THE RESIDUALEFFECT OF, I MEAN SLAVERY

AND JIM CROW ARE DEAD.

BUT THE RESIDUAL EFFECT OF THATSYSTEMIC SUBJUGATION EXISTS

TODAY.

>> SURE. IT ABSOLUTELYEXISTS TODAY, BUT --

>> Jon: LET'S GO A DIFFERENTWAY.

>> IT EXISTS FOR EVERY RACE, NOTAT THAT EXTENT, ALL RIGHT?

>> Jon: SO, THAT'S WHITEPRIVILEGE. OH BOY.

>> BUT YOU DON'T PUT FORTH, ALLRIGHT, THIS OH WHITE PRIVILEGE

AND IF YOU FAIL THAT'S WHY YOUFAIL, ALL RIGHT.

AMERICA'S NOW A PLACE WHERE IFYOU WORK HARD, GET EDUCATED AND

AN HONEST PERSON, YOU CANSUCCEED.

THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE PUT OUTTHERE.

NOT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

>> YOU ARE CARRYING, YOU ARECARRYING, YOU ARE CARRYING

MORE OF A BURDEN ASA BLACK PERSON IN THIS

COUNTRY THAN A WHITE PERSON INTHIS COUNTRY FROM --

>> COLLECTIVELY YES BUT NOT --

>> Jon: NO, INDIVIDUALLY.

>> LISTEN, INDIVIDUALLY EVERYCIRCUMSTANCE IS DIFFERENT.

>> Jon: THEY DON'T STOP ANDFRISK WALL STREET BANKERS

EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE DONE FARMORE DAMAGE TO THE ECONOMY.

>> THEY DON'T STOP AND FRISKWALL STREET BANKERS.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: WHITE PEOPLE, LISTEN TOME.

WHITE PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE DOMORE DRUGS IN THIS COUNTRY THAN

BLACK PEOPLE...>> YES.

>> Jon: BUT BLACK PEOPLE MAKE UPA FAR HIGHER MAJORITY OF

DRUG ARRESTS.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS?

>> Jon: YES.

>> YOU DO KNOW WHY THAT IS?

WHY IS THAT.

>> BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE, IT'SABOUT REAL ESTATE TO SOME

EXTENT. THERE HASBEEN A SYSTEMIC SUBJUGATION

THROUGH REAL ESTATE.BLACK PEOPLE ARE GHETTOIZED

IN THIS COUNTRY, AND THOSEGHETTOS --

>> THEY'RE FORCED TO LIVE THERE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.

>> Jon: OH, YOU'RE GETTING TO ABAD PLACE MY FRIEND.

WHAT MADE YOUR CULTURALLY?

DO YOU THINK YOUR UP BRINGINGGAVE YOU VALUES, ETHICS?

>> YES, YES IT DID.

>> Jon: YOU DIDN'T GROW UP RICH,RIGHT?

>> NO. WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH MONEYAT ALL.

>> Jon: BUT YOU WORKED HARD.>> I DID.

>> Jon: RIGHT. YOU WORKED HARD.>> RIGHT.

>> Jon: YOU LIVED WHERE? >> LEVITTOWN.

>> Jon: LEVITTOWN.>> NEW YORK.

>> Jon: SO IT GAVE YOU A NICESTABLE, A CHEAP HOME.

THERE'S WAS NO DOWN PAYMENTS,THERE WAS THIS INCREDIBLE

OPPORTUNITY. NO, THOSEHOUSES WERE SUBSIDIZED.

>> OH, IT WAS LAVISH.

>> Jon: NO IT WASNT LAVISH. BUTIT WAS STABLE.

>> THEY WEREN'T SUBSIDIZED, ITWAS SOLD TO GI'S AND THE GI'S

GOT A MORTGAGE THEYCOULD AFFORD.

>> Jon: BUT LET ME JUST ASK YOUA QUESTION.

>> LOOK YOU'RE MAKING A HUGEMISTAKE.

>> Jon: NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

LET ME JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION.>> YES.

>> Jon: DID THAT UPBRINGINGLEAVE A MARK ON YOU EVEN TODAY?

>> OF COURSE.

EVERY UPBRINGING LEAVES A MARKON PEOPLE.

>> GREAT. GREAT. COULD BLACKPEOPLE LIFE IN LEVITTOWN?

>> NOT AT THAT TIME THEY COULDNOT.

>> SO THAT MY FRIEND ISWHAT WE CALL IN THE BUSINESS

WHITE PRIVILEGE.

>> MY FRIEND? OKAY. THAT WASIN --

[CROWD CHEERING]>> Jon: NO.

>> THAT WAS IN 1950, ALL RIGHT.

>> Jon: 1950.

>> 1950.

>> Jon: WERE THERE BLACK PEOPLELIVING THERE IN 1960?

>> IN LEVITTOWN?>> Jon: YES.

>> I DON'T KNOW.>> Jon: THERE WEREN'T.

>> HOW DO YOU KNOW.

>> Jon: BECAUSE I READ UP ON IT.

>> OH, YOU READ UP.YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

>> Jon: I DO KNOW THAT.

>> I COULD FIND SOMEBODY.

>> Jon: MY POINT IS EVEN TODAY--

>> WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVETHERE? IT'S A NICE PLACE

BUT IT'S NOT A PLAKE LIKE YOU,IT'S NOT LIKE BEL AIR, COME ON.

>> Jon: BECAUSE IT'S A PLACETHAT BUILT VALUES.

WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IS,IMAGINE GROWING UP --

>> THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BLACKNEIGHBORHOODS THAT BUILD

VALUES. MILLIONS OF THEM.

>> Jon: BUT IMAGINE GROWING UPKNOWING THAT YOU AS AN AMERICAN.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: AS A GI WHO FOUGHT INWORLD WAR II.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: COULDN'T BUYINTO THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE LESS.

YOU WERE NOT --

>> IT WAS UNFAIR.

IT WAS UNFAIR.

>> Jon: AND THE RESIDUE OF THATCONTINUES TODAY AND THAT IS

WHITE PRIVILEGE.>> THE RESIDUE OF THAT.

IT'S, IT'S, ALL RIGHT, IF YOUWANT TO SAY IT'S

WHITE PRIVILEGE BECAUSE WHITESDIDN'T HAVE IT AS BAD AS BLACKS.

>> Jon: I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ANEXCUSE. I'M SAYING IT EXISTS.

>> FINE.>> Jon: THAT'S IT!

>> BUT THAT'S NOTWHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN

CONTEMPORARY SOCIETY.

>> Jon: YES, IT IS.

>> NO, IT'S NOT.

LET ME REPEAT THIS AND I'LL DOIT SLOWLY.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT.

>> SO EVEN YOU CAN UNDERSTANDIT.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

>> IF YOU WORK HARD, IF YOU GETEDUCATED, IF YOU'RE AN HONEST

PERSON, YOU CAN MAKE IT INAMERICA.

>> Jon: IF YOU LIVE IN ANEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE ARE,

POVERTY IS ENDEMIC IT'SHARDER TO WORK HARD.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: IT'S HARDER TO GET ANEDUCATION.

>> HEY, IT WAS HARDER ON ME THANIT WAS FOR THE WHITE GUY IN

GARDEN CITY.

IT'S ALL RELATIVE, YES.

IT'S HARDER IF YOU'RE A GHETTOKID.

YES, BUT CAN YOU DO IT?

YES.

>> Jon: YES, YOU CAN.

SO WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ISWHY SO DEFENSIVE ABOUT IT?

WHY IS IT THAT WHITE PEOPLE GETSO DEFENSIVE ABOUT THIS?

I'M NOT SAYING THAT LIFE ISN'THARD.

MIDDLE CLASS WHITE GUYS THAT AREWORKING HARD TO DO WHAT THEY CAN

AND THEY LOOK AND THEY GO I'MNOT GETTING ANY PRIVILEGE.

AT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ISA GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE

BROUGHT HERE.

THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE TO IMMIGRATEHERE TO GET THAT BETTER LIFE.

AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OURCOUNTRIES HAD A PROBLEM WITH

THAT, AND WE CAN MOVE --

>> PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE THATWHO ARE FAIR MINDED.

BUT YOU DON'T THEN TAKE THAT ANDTHEN CONDEMN THE MODERN SOCIETY.

>> Jon: NOBODY'S -- DO YOU KNOWWHAT I'LL CALL IT, I'LL CALL IT

THIS AND IT'S A WORD I THINKYOU'LL UNDERSTAND.

A FACTOR.

IT'S A FACTOR.

>> IT'S A FACTOR.>> Jon: IT'S A FACTOR.

>> I'LL GIVE YOU THE FACTOR.

>> Jon: YOUR HUMILITY HAS MOVEDME.

YOU ARE LIKE POPE FRANCIS THATHAS TAKEN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

INTO AN ERA OF ACCEPTANCE ANDHUMILITY.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: YOU, YOU BILL O'REILLYCAN LEAD THE FLOCK OF THE FOX

FEARFUL TO A BETTER PLACE.

I BELIEVE IN YOU.