Panel - Military Draft for Women?

June 21, 2016 - Adrienne C. Moore 06/21/2016 Views: 870

Adrienne C. Moore, Rory Albanese and Robin Thede discuss a bill that would require women to register for the draft and debate whether military service should be obligatory. (7:35)

Welcome back.I'm here with my panel.

First up, Nightly Show contributor Rory Albanese.

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And Nightly Show contributorRobin Thede.

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And she stars in the Netflix hitshow Orange Is the New Black.

The new season is out now.Actress Adrienne C. Moore.

-(cheers and applause)-Hey. -WILMORE: Hello.

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Okay, so last week,the Senate approved a bill

that, for the first time,would require women turning 18

to sign up for SelectiveService, just like men do.

For anyone not clear on that,

it means sign upfor the draft, right?

-THEDE: Wow.-So, are we cool with that?

Should women be in the draft,or do you think

their participation in theservice should remain voluntary?

I think it should be remain...I think it should

-remain voluntary for everybody,men included. -WILMORE: Mm-hmm.

I mean, I'm...I'm a sort of love to love,

hate war kind of person, soI have my own conflicting ideas

-about war in the first place.-WILMORE: Mm-hmm.

But I think it should be, ifyou're gonna serve your country,

you should volunteer to do it.

-My brother was in the military.-Mm-hmm.

And he volunteered to do it, soI think it should stay at that.

-Uh-huh. -But I thinkif we are required to do it,

then women should be, as well.

-Yeah. -Yeah. -'Cause, I mean,we're all about equality

-and fighting for equality.-Right.

Well, and that's the thing,right? Like...

Okay, if you're gonnahave the draft,

and you're gonna make women haveto sign up for the draft,

then they better get paidas much as the male soldiers.

-(cheers and applause) -MOORE:Better have the same jobs.

-They better have the sameopportunities. -ALBANESE: Yeah.

-The same opportunities.-Mm-hmm. -You know?

Actually, you know, one time,I worked for the U.S. Army

once years ago,and I remember at that time,

the brigadier generalwas a female.

-And I was like...-THEDE: Wow.

-And she was a sister,so I was like, "Yeah!"

-WILMORE: Right. Yeah. -THEDE:Wow. -(cheers and applause)

-I was like, "Yes!"-Yeah.

You were like, "Go on, girl,get your lemonade."

-I was... ma'am.-See? See?

I mean,I don't think this country

at this point,could handle the reinstate...

-reinstated draft.-Yeah, if it happened.

I mean, I get jury duty,I have a panic attack.

-You know what I mean?Like, we're not gonna... -Right.

-People are not going to handlegetting drafted. -Uh-huh.

We're just past that mentalityin this country.

It's tough to go backto something like that.

-THEDE: Yeah.-You think so?

Do you think it makes adifference who the president is?

-Like, if...-MOORE: Oh, absolutely.

Like, if Hillary Clintonreinstated the draft,

-or Donald Trump reinstatedthe draft? -THEDE: Oh, God.

MOORE: If Hillary Clintonwas president, then...

People are like, "Donald Trump?No, Larry, don't say that!"

Right. I don't think I would...

I would, like, fake,like, a bad eye,

or, like, a psychotic episodeif Trump was president.

I'd be like,"I can't be in the Army!"

-Yeah.-I'm crazy!

The-the... the problem...the problem is

Trump's so crazy, he'd be like,"She's normal."

-You know what I mean?-I'd start tickin', like,

"Yeah, I want to be inthe military, I want to do it."

THEDE: Yeah, but Trump...Trump might make it sound

kind of sexy-- he'd be like,"It's the most luxurious

-Yeah, yeah.-draft ever!"

Yeah. Yeah.

You know what?Maybe I should do it.

-Yeah, yeah.-Sounds good.

Do you think, uh, do you thinkeveryone should be required

to serve a year in the militarythe way Israel does?

Do you think that should happenin our country?

Do you think...'Cause I feel people...

I'm not sayingwe should do that or not,

but it does feel like we're...we're more separated

from the experience ofthe military than ever before.

You know,and it could be because...

It sounds likeyou're saying we should do it.

Well, I think we're in a warthat is very divisive right now.

-Mm-hmm. -And so we havea complicated relationship

with the militaryand with serving.

Well, that's the thing--we're in, like, three wars,

-and no one talks about it,you know? -Yeah.

I think...Although, I will say...

-You feel disconnected. -Do youknow what we're fighting about?

Have we really clearedthat conversation yet?

Well, listen, that's a wholeother conversation, but...

'Cause if I'm gonna fight,I want to know

-what I'm fighting for.-Absolutely.

-(applause, cheering)-And it's, like... Yes.

-That's a very good point.-You know, I'm not, like,

don't get me wrong,I am that girlfriend

who will, like,tear off the earrings

and put the Vaseline on...if my girlfriend was in a fight,

I'd be like,"Yeah, I'm gonna get 'em!

-Yeah. -But just let me know whyI'm getting 'em for you."

But you're right.But it's a good point.

But it's the reasonwhy people were so...

they felt so patriotic when thedraft happened in World War II,

-'cause we were attacked,it was clear. -Right. -Mm-hmm.

But in Vietnam,the draft was more divisive.

-Right. -Mm-hmm.-'Cause people were like,

"Why the (bleep)are we going over there?"

Yeah, but I have to say, man,like, having...

-I went on a USO standup tourin Afghanistan, -Mm-hmm.

and I have to say, like,

our military'sreally incredible, man.

-Yes. Yes. Yes. -And it's,like, this volunteer...

-(cheering, applause)-this volunteer... Yeah.

-Volunteerism works.-Yes! 'Cause you get

-So it's like, in other words...-the cream of the crop.

This always strikes meas so odd.

It's, like, we-we... maybeit was Tom Brokaw who did it,

that labeledthe World War II generation

"The Greatest Generation," andit's, like, they were great...

Like, the Hitler thing-- A-plus.You know what I mean? For sure.

You know? But, like,a lot of the other things

they did were terrible.

-They were racists,they were misogynistic... -Yeah.

Like, they were"The Greatest Generation."

I don't believe you're (bleep)

-on The Greatest Generation.-Well, I'm not. I'm being...

-Hey, we keep it 100. I'mkeeping it a hundred. -Right.

No, you keep it 100,keep it 100.

Those dudes threw a lotof (bleep) in our rivers

-we're cleaning up. They did.And... -(cheering, applause)

Yeah. And it's, like,we've got this all...

we've got this all-volunteerfighting force now.

-Yes. -They're impressive,they're young, they're smart.

Everyone keeps worrying aboutthe future of this country.

Like, meet those kids.They're gonna come home.

-We're gonna be fine.-Well, if we take care of them.

That's the problem, iswe're not taking care of them.

You're right.That's our responsibility.

-(cheering, applause)-They're taking care of us.

-Yeah. -You know, I think,versus... in Israel,

they don't have enough people.You know, we have a country...

-It's a small country. Right.-It's a small country.

We have a massive country.I think what...

Maybe we couldjust have Rhode Island

-and have everybody inRhode Island... -Yeah, right.

Everybody in Rhode Islandshould go in the military.

Sorry, if you live inRhode Island you got to serve

-in the military.-No, I think versus having

a mandatory yearof military service,

everyone should have a mandatoryyear of customer service.

-Because then... Yes!-Customer service? -(laughter)

Yes. Hear me out. They wouldlearn how to treat people

and we wouldn't be at warso goddamn much.

-You know, people treateach other like crap. -Yes. Yes.

Yeah, I mean, it could be 'causeall the customer service jobs

-are in India, we don't knowthat skill. -That's right, sir.

-(audience groaning) -ButI do think there are great...

-Burn. India burn.-These people hate the truth.

I do think there's a lotof great things, though,

that the military offersin the instruction,

and the discipline and the focusand just the idea

-of, like, a yearin a little boot camp. -Yeah.

You know, I think my bodywould be snatched...

-Ah. -(whooping)-by the end of it.

-I would come home to, like,"Hey, Mom!" -Yeah. Right.

-WILMORE: Sure. -Snatched.-THEDE: I-I agree.

I think I would go.Like, if there was a draft--

and obviously,I'm between 18 and 25,

-so I would be drafted...-Mm-hmm. Yeah, I get it.

Um, I'm not surewhy they're laughing.

-(laughter) -If Obamasaid tomorrow, "Okay...

"we got to bump upthis fight against ISIS,

-Yeah. -"and I'm institutingthe draft right now.

-Robin, you're up."-Yes. I would go.

Really? 'Cause I'm windedlistening to you,

so I definitely wouldn't go.

Well, I told you what I wasgonna do, I'd start twitching.

-You know?-No, because you know what?

There's also, we fight warsin a different way now.

-ALBANESE: Like a video game.-Yeah, it's like a video game.

But there's also a lot.There's military intelligence,

there's languages,there's all sorts of things

that you can do. I mean,the people on the front lines,

people always go, "I'dbe sent to the front lines."

I'm like, "No. You knowwho's up there? Special Forces."

It's, like, the highly elite.My brother-in-law was a Marine

-for almost 20 years.-Mm-hmm.

Like, those guys are serious.Like, you know, they're not

just gonna send some scaredperson to the front line.

They're gonna...they're gonna...

-you know, hopefully.-But not you there.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.No, I'm...

She's gonna be that personin the room like,

"Vector seven, vector seven,go over five, go over five.

-And hit." -ALBANESE:I mean, for me, it's just...

I'd be the person, like,customizing uniforms and stuff.

I'd be like, "Is this a job?"

Not that one you were injust three minutes ago.

Oh. The picture you paint of waris so realistic, Robin.

-I know. -I thinkit would be good if we...

if more people hadan understanding

of what the militaryhas to go through,

-sacrifices they make.-But I feel like

a kid should have to go, if you're part of, like,

the Duggars, like, if there'stoo many kids in your family.

-You know what I mean? Like...-Oh, just send one of them out?

-No, it's just like...-I like that.

You trying to burn,like, the Brady Bunch?

It should be like a calf.It should be, like,

your fourth kid and beyond'sgot to go.

You know? Like, it can't be...There's not enough resources

for all those Duggars,you know? You can't, like...

This is not Hunger Games. What are we talking about?

ALBANESE: You got to contribute.One of those Duggars

-needs to contribute. -WILMORE:I think it's a great idea.

We'll figure it all out.We'll be right back.

-MOORE: Hunger Game strategy.-(cheering, applause)

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