Piers Gibbon

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Piers Gibbon was oddly offended when he learned that cannibals in New Guinea had never eaten a white man. (6:10)

YOU'RE VERY KIND.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE HOST

OF A NEW NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC

SHOW EATING WITH CANNIBALS.

WE'LL SPEND THE INTERVIEW

PICTURING EACH OTHER AS

GIANT GLISTENING TURKEY

LEGS.

PLEASE WELCOME PIERS

GIBBONS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING

ON, MR. GIBBONS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

YOU ARE AN EXPLORER.

YOU ARE THE AUTHOR OF THE

BOOK TRIBE, ENDANGERED

PEOPLE'S AROUND THE WORLD.

NOW YOU HAVE A SPECIAL

COMING UP CALLED EATING WITH

CANNIBALS ON THE NATIONAL

GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL.

>> OH, YES.

>> Stephen: YOU WENT AND

LIVED WITH CANNIBALS.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHERE ARE THERE

CANNIBALS STILL.

>> IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA, AND

THEY FEEL THAT THIS IS PART

OF THEIR CULTURE.

AND THATS WHAT WHAT NATIONAL

GEE GRAPHIC SENT ME TO FIND

OUT WHY DO YOU DO IT, WHY

DOES IT MAKE SENSE IN YOUR

CULTURE AND DO YOU REALLY DO

IT?

>> Stephen: HOW MANY OF

THESE PEOPLE ARE THERE LEFT?

>> OH, THERE ARE PLENTY TO

GO AROUND.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

(LAUGHTER)

>> I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU

WERE EATING EACH OTHER YOU

KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE

POPULATION FAIRLY QUICKLY.

>> WELL, THEY CHOOSE VERY

SPECIFIC PEOPLE TO EAT.

>> Stephen: WHY DO THEY DO

IT.

WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE TO EAT

SOMEONE.

>> IF YOU ARE A TROUBLEMAKER,

BASICALLY.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> IF YOU ARE A MAGIC MAN,

IF YOU-- .

>> Stephen: IF YOU ARE A

MAGIC MAN.

>> A MAGIC MAN.

>> Stephen: I'M GUESSING YOU

DIDN'T DO A LOT OF CARD

TRICKS WHILE YOU WERE THERE.

>> KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE

TABLE.

>> Stephen: YES.

>> VERY DEFINITELY IT IS

SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL DO

TO SOMETHING WHO HAS CAUSED

HARM WHO HAS BROUGHT

SICKNESS UPON THE VILLAGE.

AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW.

>> Stephen: ACTUAL SICKNESS

OR THIS IS LIKE WE THINK

YOU'RE A WITCH WE'RE

GOINGING TO SLOW ROAST YOU.

>> KIND OF BOTH.

>> Stephen: KIND OF BOTH.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: IS IT LIKE A

JUSTICE SYSTEM AND RELIGION

AT THE SAME TIME.

>> EXACTLY SO.

>> WHAT HAPPENS IS THE

SHAMAN WILL GO INTO A

CEREMONY CALLED THE SING

SING OVERNIGHT.

HE WILL SMOKE THE LOCAL

TOBACCO.

>> Stephen: I BET WILL.

>> AND HE WILL SING AND HE

WILL SING AND THEN EVENT

OUT-- EVENTUALLY HIS SPIRIT

GUIDE WILL WHISPER A NAME IN

HIS EAR.

IF THAT IS YOUR NAME THAT IS

WHEN YOU START RUNNING

BECAUSE THAT MEANS ARE YOU

THE MAGIC MAN AND IT'S TIME

TO KILL AND EAT YOU.

>> Stephen: HOW OFTEN DOES

THIS HAPPEN.

>> OH, SPECIAL OCCASIONS.

I MEAN ONLY IF-- .

>> Stephen: YOU KNOW,

CHRISTMAS AND EASTER.

>> EXACTLY.

HIGH DAYS AND HOLY DAYS OR

WHEN, SPECIFICALLY,

SOMETHING BAD IS HAPPENING

IN THE VILLAGE SO IF THERE

IS ILLNESS OR SICKNESS THAT

IS THE TIME FOR A SING SING

TO FIND OUT WHO IS CAUSING

THE ILLNESS.

>> Stephen: SO ONCE THE SING

SING HAPPENS AND THE LITTLE

SPIRIT GUIDE, THE FAMILIAR

OF THE SHAMAN THERE COMES

AND TELLS HIM THIS IS AN

IMAGINARY THING.

>> THIS IS A REAL THING.

>> Stephen: A REAL THING.

BUT WE ARE CAN'T SEE IT.

>> NO.

>> Stephen: HOW DO YOU FIND

OUT THAT ARE YOU THE MAGIC

MAN, DO THEY JUST CLUB YOU

IN YOUR SLEEP OR SAY WE'LL

GIVE YOU A TEN SECOND HEAD

START.

>> WELL, THEY WILL START

SINGING YOUR NAME OUT IN THE

SING SING CEREMONY.

SO IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME

COMING OUT LOUD AND CLEAR,

START RUNNING.

>> Stephen: WERE YOU

EVER-- WERE YOU EVER

NERVOUS?

>> YES, VERY MUCH SO.

>> Stephen: DID, DO THEY EAT

GREAT WHITE FATHERS LIKE US?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I

WANTED TO KNOW.

SO AFTER I ASKED THEM ALL OF

THE QUESTIONSES ABOUT WHY

DOW EAT SOMEONE.

I SAID, HAVE YOU EVER EATEN

A WHITE MAN.

AND THEY SAID NO, NO, WE

HAVEN'T.

AND I FOUND MYSELF ODDLY

OFFENDED.

>> Stephen: WHAT AM I,

CHOPPED LIVER SM.

>> YEAH IS SO I SAID, YOU

KNOW, WHAT IS WRONG WITH

THIS FINE WHITE BODY IN

FRONT OF YOU.

AND THE DIRECTOR FROZE

BEHIND THE CAMERA, AND I

THOUGHT OH, MAYBE I'VE GONE

TOO FAR.

>> Stephen: REALLY.

BECAUSE I GOT TO TELL YOU, I

LOOK AT YOU AND I GO-- YOU

LOOK DELICIOUS.

I MEAN WITH THAT SALT AND

PEPPER HAIR, YOU COME

PRESEASONED.

(LAUGHTER)

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: WE HAVE A CLIP

OF THE SPECIAL RIGHT HERE.

JIM, COULD YOU TOSS THAT UP

THERE.

>> SO YOU HAVE EATEN ONE

MAN.

>> ONE MAN.

>> AND ONE WOMAN.

>> ONE WOMAN.

>> IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN THE TASTE OF A MAN

AND A WOMAN.

>> Stephen: EQUALITY AT LAST.

>> EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW, YOU SAID SOMETHING

INTERESTING.

YOU SAID THAT YOU THINK

PEOPLE ARE TOO SQUEAMISH

ABOUT CANNIBALISM.

WHAT DOW MEAN BY THAT.

HOW YOU CAN BE TOO SQUEAMISH

ABOUT CANNIBALISM.

>> IT'S FAIR ENOUGH TO BE

SQUEAMISH ABOUT CANNIBALISM.

BUT I THINK WE CAN GET TOO

CAUGHT UP IN OUR OWN CULTURE

AND TOO CAUGHT UP IN THE

INITIAL DISGUST MOMENT OF OH,

THAT'S JUST APPALLING THAT

ARE YOU DOING THAT.

>> Stephen: THE INITIAL

DISGUST MOMENT AND THEN THE

SUBSEQUENT DISGUST MOMENT.

BUT WE DON'T IN OUR CULTURE

WE DON'T PRACTICE ANY FORM

OF CAN DAHLISM ANY MORE.

>> NO,.

>> I DON'T.

>> Stephen: YOU DON'T.

OKAY.

YOU ARE GOING TO LIVE WITHEAU

CULTURES AFTER THIS.

IS THIS THE ONLY SORT OF

PRIMITIVE FOREIGN CULTURE

YOU WILL IMMERSE YOURSELF

IN.

>> NO, I'M UP FOR VISITING

ANY-- .

>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE

PLANS.

YOU WOULD CALL THIS

PRIMITIVE.

>> I WOULD CALL THIS AN

INTERESTING LIFESTYLE

CHOICE.

>> Stephen: IT'S A LIFESTYLE

OF CHOICE.

>> IN THE CONTEXT OF THE

JUNGLE WHERE THERE IS VERY

LITTLE PROTEIN, IT IS A

LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDABLE.

AND ALSO WE WERE CAN

BALANCES ONCE TOO.

AND IN ENGLAND, THERE'S A

CAVE IN CHEDDAR GORGE AND

THERE'S BURMS THERE 14,000

YEARS OLD WITH SCRAPEY MARKS

ON THEM, HUMAN BONES WITH

SCRAPEY MARKS ON THEM.

>> Stephen: IN CHEDDAR

GORGE.

>> WHERE THE CHEESE COMES

FROM.

>> Stephen: MAKING A

CHEESEBURGER OUT OF

SOMEBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: THE SHOW

IS-- PREMIERSES THIS SUNDAY