Please welcomeJonathan Capehart.
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What's going on?
Oh, you know.
-Same old same old?-Same old same old.
Mm-mm. I, you know, I...
figured I'd just stayin the city an extra day.
Just to see?
-Yeah, get back home tomorrow.-I-I hear you, I hear you.
Probably should bein the office. I don't know.
-Welcome to the show, sir.-Thank you very much.
-It's great to be here.-Before we get started,
I mean, you... you knowI love your writing
and your point of view,but you are, honestly,
one of the mostdapper-dressed journalists
I've ever come across.I always admire this in you.
-I always admire it.-(cheering) -Thank you.
-Thanks very much.-I really do.
But we are not here to talkabout your dress sense.
We're here to talk about theupcoming presidential election.
Are you as afraid as manyof the people in this audience?
Um, look,I am cautiously optimistic.
As an opinion writer,I get to say what I think
and who I think should bePresident of the United States.
And I think Hillary Clinton
should be Presidentof the United States.
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That being said,I am cautiously optimistic
that she'll be ableto pull this off.
If you look at the numbers,
-especially in termsof the electoral map, -Mm-hmm.
which is a very strange thingfor me to try and understand.
You may have a position whereif the wrong states
go the right way for Trump,
-he actually comes outextremely close, -Oh, yes.
-or even on top.-Right.
So one of those states, um,
that Republicans always thinkthey can win,
-but they never dois Pennsylvania. -Yes.
Donald Trumpis one of those people
who is saying we couldtake Pennsylvania.
If he takes Pennsylvania,he's won.
Because that's part ofHillary Clinton's firewall.
Now, on my podcast "Cape Up",I interviewed Larry Sabato,
the head ofthe Center for Politics
at the University of Virginia,and I asked him,
if a particular stategoes for Trump,
which state is it that tells youthat he won?
He said Pennsylvania.
I said now for Clinton,which state would that be?
And he said Florida.
Now think about this:
Republicans, you would assume,
are voting for the Republicancandidate for president.
But because there areso many Republicans
who find Donald Trumpjust abhorrent...
That a lot of thoseRepublican votes
could be goingto Hillary Clinton.
-You should have seen your face.-I know, I was like...
What? Child, please.Come on.
Let's-let's talk aboutNorth Carolina for a second.
That is honestly one of the mostfrightening things to see.
Normally you would hope thatan election would be won.
You would hope that peoplewould try and win it.
A political party would say,
we have motivated Americansto vote for us.
And yet it seems like inNorth Carolina especially,
Republicans are touting
the suppression of theblack vote as a victory.
How do you see that?
I mean you-you'rean expert in that field.
You've been writing about it,you are you in it.
How does that make you feel?
Well, it makes me feel horrible.
Just as an African Americanand as an American.
People fought and diedfor the right to vote.
And particularly in the south.
And so when you have elected--city elected officials,
state elected officials,bragging about the fact
that they are keeping peoplefrom exercising the franchise,
exercising their hard-foughtright to vote,
There-there is concernthat many black voters
don't find Hillary appealing.
What do you chalk that up to?
Well, I think it's several,I think it's several things.
One, there are a lotof millennial voters,
African Americanand non-African American,
who are just tired.
Uh, th-they're tiredof the status quo.
They're-they're notso certain about her.
They've heard some things aboutwhat happened in the '90s,
that she was onthe wrong side of,
and so they don'tthey don't trust her.
The other thingyou have going on
is the fact that well,it's not Barack Obama.
It is understandable thatthe level of enthusiasm
among African Americans would beless for her than it was...
-Than it is for him.-Yes, than it is for him.
And so what he's trying to doand has been trying to do,
is say look,you don't have to like...
You don't have to like her.
But if you care about me,if you care about us,
if you care about everythingthat that we've done,
then vote for her.
'Cause that other guy,he's bananas.
I mean I love,what I loved with president,
when he keeps going,he goes "Come on, man."
-Have you seen him say that?-It is fantastic.
That's the best moment,when he's like, "Come on."
-"Come on, man."-"Come on. That guy? Come on."
Business. Like, w-we gotto get down to business.
So if I understand what are yousaying, what you're saying
is voters are sayingwe've had Barack,
and essentially with Hillary,
they're discoveringthat once you go black...
It is very difficultto go elsewhere.
Yeah, it is very difficultto go...
It is very difficultto go elsewhere,
and he would prefer that you...
That you stay... black.
I think there's a quicker waywe could have said that.
-I know.-But we'll figure it out.
Jonathan, thank you so muchfor being here.
-Trevor, thank you very much.-Huge fan of your writing.