>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT ACADEMY AWARDWINNING ACTOR.

HIS NETFLIX SERIES SHOWING ITSSECOND SEASON IS CALLED "HOUSE

OF CARDS."

>> HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDEREDSERVING IN THE LEADERSHIP?

>> I FIGURE THAT MIGHT BEPOSSIBLE EIGHT, TEN YEARS FROM

NOW.

>> WHAT IF I SUGGESTED YOU COULDSERVE IN LEADERSHIP THIS TERM TO

REPLACE ME AS WHIP?

>> YOU ARE BEING TAPPED FOR VP?

>> LET'S ASSUME THAT IS TRUE.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE BUT ME ASWHIP?

>> YES.

>> A THIRD-TERM CONGRESSWOMAN.

>> A UNIVERSALLY ADMIREDINCUMBENT WHO HAPPENS TO BE A

WAR VETERAN.

>> WEBB IS NEXT IN LINEOR BUCKWALTER.

>> SO JUST CONSIDER THAT FOR AMOMENT.

>> Jon: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TOTHE PROGRAM KEVIN SPACEY.

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KEVIN SPACEY!

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WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

BEEFCAKE WHAT ARE YOU GOING TODO?

YOU MACHIAVELLIAN PIECE OF(bleep) YOU

CONNIVING -- IT'S SO GOOD.

>> PERHAPS YOU HAVE YOUR WHITEMAN FEAR GOGGLES ON.

>> Jon: YOU DON'T SCARE MESPACEY.

HOW DID THEY GET YOU --EVERYBODY KNOWS NETFLIX NOW AS

DELIVERING THESE INCREDIBLESHOWS.

AT THE TIME WHEN THE HOUSE OFCARDS FIRST CAME OUT THEY ARESTILL

THE COMPANY THAT SENDS YOU DVDSIN THE MAIL.

WHEN THEY COME TO YOU AND SAYTHIS DO YOU GO WHAT ARE YOU

TALKING ABOUT?

YOU ARE NOT EVEN A NETWORK?

>> I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THISHAPPENING FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.

ONE OF THESE COMPANIES, IT WASEITHER NETFLIX OR HULU OR GOOGLE

OR SOMEBODY WHO MADE GAZILLIONSOF DOLLARS WAS GOING TO

WANT TO GET INTO THE ORIGINALCONTENT BUSINESS.

THEY WERE GOING TO WANT TOCOMPETE.

IT MADE SENSE TO ME WHEN WE WENTOUT TO HOUSE OF CARDS.

WE WENT TO THE NETWORKS,EVERYBODY.

AND NETFLIX SAID WE BELIEVE INYOU.

WE LIKE THE ORIGINAL BRITISHSERIES AND WE DON'T NEED YOU TO

DO A PILOT.

HOW MANY DO YOU WANT TO DO?

AND WE WERE LIKE REALLY?

YOU WOULD --[LAUGHTER]

-- WE -- HOW MANY DO YOU WANT TODO?

[LAUGHTER]26.

[ LAUGHTER ]AND THEY SAID YES.

FOR US, IT WAS A FANTASTICPARTNERSHIP.

THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITHAND I'VE HAD THE TIME OF MY

LIFE.

>> Jon: IT'S AMAZING.

AMAZING CHARACTER.

THE ONLY ISSUE REALLY IS ITCOMES OUT ON VALENTINE'S DAY.

>> ISN'T THAT

ROMANTIC?

>> Jon: IT REALLY IS.

HOW DO YOU PUT THOSERELATIONSHIPS BACK TOGETHER

AGAIN WHERE SOMEONE ELSE IN THEHOUSE MIGHT SAY YEAH, YEAH, IT'S

GREAT.

HOUSE OF CARDS IS ON.

>> IT'S BETTER THAN GOING TODINNER AND HAVING NOTHING TO SAY

TO EACH OTHER.

>> Jon: ARE YOU ASKING ME TODINNER?

[LAUGHTER]DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND TIME IN

WASHINGTON WITH -- ARE YOU --DID YOU FOLLOW A WHIP?

>> YEAH, I DID.

I FOLLOWED KEVIN McCARTHY ANDSTENY HOYER, WHO IS THE MINORITYWHIP

BUT KEVIN McCARTHY IS THEREPUBLICAN MAJORITY WHIP

AND SO I FOLLOWED HIM AROUNDFOR AWHILE, HE EVEN INVITED METO A WHIP MEETING WHICH WAS

REALLY INTERESTING.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: GIULIANI SHUT MOST OF

THOSE PLACES DOWN.

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THE -- SO WHEN YOU ARE THATCLOSE TO THE POWER CENTER OF THE

COUNTRY, DO YOU FEEL THEDARKNESS?

DOES IT -- OR -- LIKE AS ANOBSERVER OF IT, IT LOOKS UTTERLY

CORRUPT AND CORROSIVE.

WHEN -- WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE?

>> IT FEELS LIKE YOU AREWATCHING PERFORMANCE ART.

I DON'T BELIEVE THEM.

I DON'T BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY.

I DON'T THINK THEY ARE BEINGABSOLUTELY SINCERE.

I THINK IT'S PERFORMANCE ART ANDMOST OF THEM ARE BAD ACTORS.

>> Jon: THEY ARE BAD ACTORSTHAT IS WHAT IS SO WEIRD.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]DID YOU EVER SEE.

WOULD THEY EVER DROP THE FACADE.

DO YOU THINK IT WAS APERFORMANCE FOR YOUR BENEFIT OR

ARE THEY LYING TO THEMSELVES ANDEACH OTHER?

>> MMM, MMM.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

WITH MORE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK OFTEN THEDELUSION IS VERY DEEP.

IT RUNS VERY DEEP.

>> Jon: THEY BELIEVE IN THEIRHEART WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

>> EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT KNOWTHEY ARE FULL OF (bleep).

>> Jon: GIVE ME A BALLPARKPERCENTAGE.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> ACTUALLY McCARTHY SAID A

VERY FUNNY THING.

HE SAID THIS PUBLICLY HE SAID ITTO ME PRIVATELY AND LATER HE

SAID IT PUBLICLY HE SAID IF ICOULD KILL JUST ONE MEMBER OF

CONGRESS I WOULDN'T HAVE TOWORRY ABOUT ANOTHER VOTE AND

SEVEN CONGRESSMEN CALLED HIM TOSAY

AM I THE ONE YOU WOULD KILL?

IS IT ME?

I THOUGHT IT WAS A LOW NUMBERACTUALLY.

>> Jon: THAT IS A LOW NUMBER.

DO YOU THINK AFTER BEING THERETHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF THAT?

BECAUSE THE ONE AREA YOU WOULDLIKE TO THINK HOUSE OF CARDS

TAKES SOME ARTISTIC LICENSE ISTHE MURDERING PART.

[ LAUGHTER ]IN THE FIRST SEASON.

NOT THE SECOND DID I RUINEVERYTHING.

IN THE FIRST RUN.

>> (bleep) SPOILER.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: WHAT I MEANT IN THE

FIRST ONE THAT'S THE ONE THATDID IT.

>> WE'VE CERTAINLY HADPOLITICIANS ACCUSED OF SUCH A

THING IN HISTORY.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT ANDTHEY CERTAINLY -- BACK IN THE

DAY, IN THE ROMAN DAYS THEY WERE(bleep) KILLING EVERYBODY.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Jon: RIGHT.

WAS THERE ANYONE THERE WITH LIKEA SOUL TRYING TO GET OUT?

WAS THERE -- IF YOU LOOK BEHINDSOMEBODY'S EYES WAS THERE MAYBE

LIKE A LITTLE GIRL BEHIND THEMGOING PLEASE HELP ME?

>> YEAH SHE'S BACK.

>> Jon: WILD, MAN.

IT'S AWESOME.

"HOUSE OF CARDS" SEASON 2 IS NOWAVAILABLE ON NETFLIX AND LORD

KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPENTHIS SEASON.

THE GREAT KEVIN SPACEY, LADIESAND GENTLEMEN.

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