-(cheering continues)-Oh, my God! What?!
(chuckles)Thank you very much!
Thank you very much.Welcome to The Nightly Show.
-(audience chanting "Larry!")-Yes! What a crowd, man.
They are excited to be here.
I'm Larry Wilmore.
We got a great one for youtonight.
Tony winner and Disney princessAnika Noni Rose joins us
-(cheering, applause)-on the panel tonight.
Yeah. Nice, man. Nice.
But foist... foist,
while most conservativeand liberal pundits
are at each other's throatsconcerning guns,
Fox News host Gretchen Carlsonkind of went off script.
There's no doubtthat Omar Mateen
was able to kill so many peoplebecause he was firing an AR-15,
a weapon easier to buyin the state of Florida
than buying a handgun.
I'm also with the majority todaytaking a stand.
Can't we hold true the sanctityof the Second Amendment
while still having common sense?
By the way, Fox News employees,
swing byBuffalo Wild Wings tonight
for Gretchen Carlson'sfarewell party.
(laughter, shouts, whooping)
I'm telling you, there'sno way Fox is keeping her
-after that, man.-(laughter)
Good for you, Gretchen.Good for you.
And to help Gretchen...you know, to help Gretchen
land a new job, we got herthe MSNBC starter pact.
-(laughter)-So, here we go.
-(audience whooping)-There we go. Very nice.
-(applause)-It's all here.
Uh, the short androgynousbrunette wig,
black glasses,and a Ta-Nehisi Coates book.
-Uh... let's see how she'll look-(laughter)
for her MSNBC job interview.
Perfect! I like it!
I like it a lot.
Everyone should haveone of those, I think.
They really should.
Meanwhile, senate Democrats
are tiredof just talking about guns.
They want action.
NEWSMAN: Led by Connecticut senator, Chris Murphy,
Democrats commandeering the senate floor,
trying to force a vote to toughen up gun laws.
And so I'm gonna remainon this floor
until we get some signal,some sign...
that we can come together...
I tried that lineon Halle Berry.
So the Democrats are fightingfor two amendments, right?
Expanding background checks
and preventingpeople on the no-fly list
from being able to buy guns.
Now, these are no-brainers,especially the no-fly list one.
In fact, it's such a no-brainer
that even someonewith barely a brain agrees.
NEWSMAN: Trump signaling an openness to new restrictions
that would ban people on the terrorist watch list
or the no-fly list from buying guns.
Yes, guys,Trump makes a good point.
But calm down--you can hit a piano with a bat
and still get a coupleof notes, all right?
Doesn't make you Rachmaninoff.
It does not, all right?
And, by the way,even the Benghazi Kid agrees.
If you are too dangerousto get on a plane,
you are too dangerousto buy a gun.
Well, I don't know,I don't know.
'Cause under that logic,then no mother (bleep) snakes
can buyany mother (bleep) guns...
...'cause they are not allowedon any mother (bleep) plane.
Is that your visionof America, Hillary?
All right,so both sides agree, right?
But, you know,here's the thing, guys,
here's the thing-- whenboth sides agree so quickly
after being so far aparton everything,
that's when I generallyget worried, okay?
So let's reallythink this through.
Because this country has a habitof making bad decisions
in the wakeof a national crisis.
(coughing):Japanese internment camps.
(coughing): Fuller House.
Once the Olsen twins weren't in,Wilmore was out.
But look, here's the thing,though, it's easy to say,
"Well, this person is dangerous,
they shouldn't be allowedto buy guns,"
but it isn't that simple, okay?
Anyone can be underthe investigation of the FBI.
I mean, Martin Luther King wasunder investigation of the FBI.
John Lennon was underinvestigation of the FBI.
Hillary Clinton is currentlyunder investigation of the FBI.
Right? How embarrassingwould it be to have a president
who's on the no-fly list?
(as Hillary):Could we do the summit
at the White House instead? Oh.
Air Force One is in the shop.Yeah. All right.
And because it's the government,you know,
there's also the problemof bureaucratic error.
For instance-- this is true--do you know who else
has been denied entryto airplanes?
Air marshals who are supposedto protect us while flying,
but who also have names toosimilar to someone on the list.
Like, Dave ben Laden.
But B-E-N Laden. Mm-hmm.
He's not Laden now.
He's been Laden.
-(laughter)-Thank you very much.
See how I did that?With the "been."
-(applause)-He ain't Laden no mo'.
-(whooping, whistling)-Thank you! Thank you, lady!
That's what I'm talking about!
Whistle Lady, too.
All right?And Whistle Lady got it, too.
-Thank you, Whistle Lady.-(laughter)
Okay. Here's my other problemwith this list
of "potential" bad people.
Any of us could wind upon this thing--
and by "any of us," I meanmostly black and brown people.
Do you know what puttingblack people on a no-fly list
would meanto Southwest Airlines?
-Decimated, all right?-(laughter)
And by the way, neitherthe San Bernardino shooters
nor the Orlando shooterwere on the no-fly list.
I'll tell you what, howabout if we put all Americans
on a no-buying-assault-weaponslist?
-(whooping, applause) -That'swhat I think should be done.
How about that list?
All right. Okay.
So to learn moreabout the process
by which these lists are made,
please welcomethe acting deputy undersecretary
of the Homeland Security'sBureau of Regulation Management
and Lists, Dirk McDermond.
Okay, so, yo,
now, I have to say,I have very serious concerns
about these lists--so how exactly do they work?
(sighs): It's a verycomplicated system, Larry.
-Mm-hmm. -It involvescovert surveillance,
-Right. -complex equations,forensic analysis.
Man, I'm just messing with you,man. If somebody looks guilty,
we just put 'emon a list. Come on.
See? I knew it.But... Look, you-you...
If you can justslap someone on a list
and then take awaya Constitutional right,
you're depriving themof due process,
which means any Americanhas the potential
to be on that list, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no,of course not.
There is a long list of people
who will neverbe put on a list, okay?
We call it the "no list" list.
We got this.We got this covered.
But, look,even the ACLU is concerned
that a lot of these listsare just like profiling.
And you'll have a listthat's full of people
who look a certain way.
And by "certain way",I mean people of color.
-Completely understandyour concern. -Thank you.
Look, that's why we havea long list of safeguards
to prevent those thingsfrom happening. We got...
-That's just another list.-Yeah, all right.
How do you keepall the lists straight?
I'll give you a hint:it starts with an L
and it rhymes with "cyst".
-List.-Boom, you got it.
All right, I'm still concerned.Here's the other thing--
how can peopleeven get off this list?
-That's another problem.-Oh, you see, Larry,
that's very simple.You just have to get on
the "take me off the list" list.
-How do they do that? -Well,right now you can't do it,
'cause currently there'sa bit of a waiting list.
But still, you know, you can...
Is there anythingsomeone can do?
Can they at least call?
No, we're actually unlisted.
Of course you are, right. Okay.
So, you don't think there'sanything wrong with this?
I mean, you're not even worriedabout people's civil liberties.
As a black man,I'm sure... I'm sure
I'm already probably,like, on seven lists.
No, no, I... No, look,listen, I got to run.
I'm sorry, I-I'm working, like,over at Buzzfeed at night.
You know? I'm, uh,working on some lists for them.
Yeah, like, right nowI got this one, you go,
-29 Reasons My Cat Can't Even.So cool. -Okay, all right.
Whatever.Dirk McDermond, everybody.
We'll be right back.
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